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Why leave account for 30 days before selling?
 

Just wondering?

Also how long has your 'stealth account' been working?

I start selling slowly from day one with no problems (20-25 low value items listed every other day across a couple of new acounts). I never buy on my selling accounts.

I have not lost a stealth account for any other reason than my own stupidity since coming here.

CaptainJack

How come you never buy with your selling accounts? And which account do you buy from? It's kinda hard to buy high-priced stuff from an ebay and pp account that has ⊗⊗⊗⊗ info

I like to keep my selling accounts fully stealth.

I have a buying account and a personal paypal account with my own details. They survived the suspension of my main selling accounts though I am sure if I upgraded them and attempted to sell they would be linked and gone.

CaptainJack

If you BUY with a stealth account and the item is shipped to a real location, PP and ebay will KNOW the real location. You lose some of the stealth.


This is why you BUY from your legit account that NEVER sells anything.

I think instantly selling and only selling on an account is a little suspicious. Now and then a seller purchases $1 items from sellers in china that leave positive feedback right away.

The longer you wait on an account, the better.

To fool ebay :fight:

i understand fella.

thing is, i NEED to list an iphone today...i now it sounds absolutely stupid.

but i have to get shot of it within 3 days..doh.

so im gonna list it then slowly launch my other **** on there over the next week or so.

The payment will be held, once the buyer leaves feedback it will be realeased.

You won't be able to put it on BIN, I think a new user with 0 feedback registered the day before will struggle to get the proper price for it.

I actually think creating an account and not selling for a month isn't what a normal person would do.

I mean, they sign upto eBay. They know which items they want to sell and list them.

Not, sign up, and a month later "oooo I still haven't sold on eBay, will do it now!"

Don't forget, set your bidder blocks to stop the Nigerians Bidding!

you cant stop Nigerians they bid from accounts in legit places like US and Europe..been there with the please send to my blessed sister who is ill and a nun, in (wait for it) Nigeria.

As for buying on stealth it is possible, as long as you ask before you bid if it can go to another address, they say yes (they wont if its high value item normally), the email them privately when youve won, 9/10 transactions go ok this way,

I have never attempted to sell an iphone, so I may be mistaken. However, I think a brand new seller listing that item might have the listing pulled before it is even searchable.

whats the quickest way of builing up feedback?

buying 1p ebooks etc?

Do not try that. You will likely get a notice about feedback manipulation.

Perhaps buy coupons for free or discount stuff. Buy low cost shipping supplies that you will need anyway. Consider low priced trinkets, toys, or jewelry you can give to nieces and nephews.

you cant stop Nigerians they bid from accounts in legit places like US and Europe..been there with the please send to my blessed sister who is ill and a nun, in (wait for it) Nigeria.

In the Buyer preferences, you can block bidders who don't have a paypal account, don't have a credit card on file.

Also can block bidders with so many unpaid item strikes.

In nearly 2000 transactions in my electronic side of things, the only time a nigerian ruined an auction was when it was a high jacked account.

Can't you get somone else with good feedback and a more established account to sell the iphone for you - maybe a friend or relative.

You would be mad to list something like that on a new 0 feedback account.

It is easy to build up a couple hundred feedback in a couple of weeks if you sell the right items at the right price. Stealth shouldn't be rushed.

CaptainJack

how much feedback do you need in the UK before you sell 'buy it now' with multiple amounts for each listing?

cheers

With Paypal accepted, it's 5 for 1 item and 15 for multiple.

CaptainJack

And blocking buyers is NOT what is recommended on the forum. Ash has hardly got his account up & running . Qualify what advice you give. No way in hell he is going to list an Iphone on 3 day list with zero Fb and no payal,,,,

Why is blocking buyers not advised?

If I recall it is because a 'newbie' wouldn't know how. So it looks suspicious.

However the blocking process is much easier now than it used to be as it is part of the SYI form so I tend to make use of it straight away.

CaptainJack

You say no paypal...but i do have paypal..i registered for paypal when i signed up with ebay.

do you mean a paypal which is fully verified and without the 21 day rubbish?

cheers

Yep,I mean verified paypal.:peace: Soz doing 3 other things, so bit distracted. :peace:

on a brand new account, not 14 days old, no FB, an item listed for say £200 and there are blocked bidders? IF ebay bots look at that, the account will suffer.


Where I am coming from is making a stealth account to last and work, Not make a stealth account and abandon it because of factors that are too hard to resolve.

Fair enough , i may wait and not list the phone for a few days then until i have some feedback.

whats the quickest way to get feedback of ten?

also, i was thinnking...the paypal account ,the new one doesnt have my own name or address...so wat happens if they come along one day and ask for proof of id, etc...? when you get to a certain amount im sure they do it.

Re #24:

I wasn't fluent in bidder blocking for the first 2 years. A n00b that can do those tricks right out of the gate? I see MCxxxx (xxxx=something we've not seen before) dropping from the sky on his poor snot-locker.

ash, you are going to stab yourself in the back, if you continue on this train of thought. It's already gone halfway off the rails.

STOP THINKING LIKE A CRACKHEAD.

If you need money for that phone, go to a pawn shop and just get paid. You try doing your thing on ebay, you won't make it and only be wasting time.

The BEST way to get 10 feedback is to sell 15-20 low value items. The quickest way is to buy cheapo junk and pay instantly.

Do you realise that it is almost guranteed that your payment will be held for 21 days, or until you receive positive feedback/PayPal can confirm delivery.

CaptainJack

You give them what they want :)

Sorry GreenBean, I really CANNOT see why blocking buyers would have an adverse effect on an account....

Obviously we should start the account like we know not how to use ebay.

There is only so far you can go trying to stay under the radar...

I always put the blocks on, one of the first things I do, and haven't had any problems...

I know.

Im a inpatient prick.

My life runs off my finances from eBay. Damn!

Come to me when that happens. I have remedies ;)

ash213:

Go to a pawnshop.


GB: you and me might as well surrender. Let 'em f*ck it up. We tried.

Your Mam never told you it is rude to argue with a lady?

As I said I am coming from the pov of maintaining stealth accounts. Couple of questions.
Do you drive? Did you pass your test the first time?
Secondly how many account have you made AND left this year? Does not matter why but straight up how many?
Answers will give me an idea

never surrender,never

Thanks for everything and your help you kind chap.:FF:

GB:

Have fun. We aren't even beginning to reach dude. All we're getting is more stubborn arguing. Some people only learn one way. Painfully.

Let him sell his phone. If he can get the listing to last till the end. Then while the funds are on 21 day hold, he can deal with the scam SNAD. Unless it turns out the SNAD is valid and no scam. Either way, sad day for our newly phoneless/cashless pal.

Cost/Benefit analysis in re ash213 :: lost cause and he must self-instruct for free

Yes I drive....Second time!

This year, I have lost, one, two, three, Four.

I KNOW EXACTLY why I have got those accounts Limited (I have never had an ebay account suspended) (I have never had an account linked)

Too much money coming in in high risk areas

That;s interesting: how did you sell without having a verified paypal attached to your account?

All I'll say to each their own.
I do not agree with much of what you say and some of your advice. that said you have the right to say things: I maintain the right to refute what you say.
Let's leave it at that.:peace:

I meant linked to a suspended account.

That's fine, if we all agreed with each other we wouldn't learn anything.

I think your a top guy, very helpful, very knowledgeable.

I just think there is only so far you can go to stay under the radar.

If you get caught, so be it. Start again.

I personally, once the holds are over start selling properly again. Before I sell anything, I will always send myself a few hundred pounds from another account. When I get limited I refund my payment and that funds the new account. I withdraw (and make sure it won't be reversed) before I send anything, and if I get Limited, nothing gets sent and I message all buyers to claim from PP caus its there fault.

That's purely because my first account I went through hoops giving them everything they wanted, and they kept me and my £9k frozen.

Lost all my stock, got my money in the end. 6 months later.

So I say **** paypal

paypal hate
 

i have never felt this much anger to people than this lot at paypal

all it means is that blocking bidders straight away doesnt make you look like a newbie..