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craigle 04-20-2010 04:53 AM

I have a new bank card, what next?
 
Hi all

i really want to reg with ebay again and start selling, i have just got a new VISA electron card. What are the safest steps are opening a new paypal/ebay acc?

I cant give my current addy as they have blocked me, and im worried that it will jepodise my suspended paypal acc which is locked till 27th may then my funds will be available to me (180 day hold)

any advice would be great :)

bode 04-20-2010 05:47 PM

Addresses are not blocked, it is all the tracking onfo and IP address that are blocked.

1. Clear Out Cookies, flash cookies and Browsing History.
2. New Windows User Account.
3. New IP address.
4. New email address.
5. New Bank Account.
6. New Credit Card.
7. New Landline Phone Number.

shadow 05-20-2010 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bode (Post 134279)
Addresses are not blocked, it is all the tracking onfo and IP address that are blocked.

1. Clear Out Cookies, flash cookies and Browsing History.
2. New Windows User Account.
3. New IP address.
4. New email address.
5. New Bank Account.
6. New Credit Card.
7. New Landline Phone Number.

By addresses do you mean street addresses?, if so, they are blocked.

bode 05-21-2010 02:17 AM

I've been suspended and re-registered many times with the same street address for years so I beg to differ. They look at more technical methods to personally identify you and track you.

sava82 05-21-2010 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadow (Post 139739)
By addresses do you mean street addresses?, if so, they are blocked.



From what I am told by other VIPs on this forum... As for the USA, ebay can only detect your address number---- such as 123 "what ever" St, located at zip code 44555 in Cugarville....

so you can also live on 123 cugar st. with zipcode 44555.

I have not verified it for a fact just yet... hopefully someone can put you up to date with it.

sava82 05-21-2010 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bode (Post 139796)
I've been suspended and re-registered many times with the same street address for years so I beg to differ. They look at more technical methods to personally identify you and track you.


Did you use the same exact details each time----

say you live on 123 Main St.... and your debit card is reg to 123 Main St.... Did you switch things up, and told ebay you live on 123 Apple Street.

craigle 05-21-2010 02:30 AM

Yeah i was talking about street address?

so is it just the post code i need to change and house number? and if i buy / sell something how will i get it sent to the correct address without being caught messaging them?

bode 05-21-2010 02:48 AM

As I mentioned before in another thread there is a difference between appearing as a new member on ebay and appearing as a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ member on ebay.

This forum advocates using ⊗⊗⊗⊗ everything.

I believe you are more likely to run into trouble using non existant addresses and names which don't appear on electoral roles or Royal Mail databases. Ebay are searching for the scammers who are likely to dodge paying fees so if you use non traceable details, they're not going to be happy.

I use my real name and address and change absolutely everything else.

I've never suffered from linked accounts going down during limitations and have had minus balance Paypal accounts at an address where family members still operate their ebay accounts.

When you use your real details and ebay/ paypal limit your account, you can take them to court at no cost to remove the 180 day limit and start trading again.

Vicvelcro 05-21-2010 04:07 AM

You don't see a connection? Recycling addresses, and repeat suspensions?

I've never used the same address twice. And I've never had an account get suspended more than once from any address I've used.

Maybe I'm just lucky in a trivial sorta way.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bode (Post 139796)
I've been suspended and re-registered many times with the same street address for years so I beg to differ. They look at more technical methods to personally identify you and track you.


sax4 05-21-2010 06:19 AM

Ok I want to get my stealth account up and running today. I am also confused about the postal address thing, use the same address as my suspended Paypal account? (and dodgy Ebay account), or use a slight variation, like instead of postcode nw18tq, use nw18tr, or something. Also, should I be using my real name?

galvatron 05-22-2010 09:04 AM

I just opened up a new bank account with HSBC and asked the lady at the bank if I got payments from paypal and the name was slightly different would that matter e.g: joe bloggs to joe floggs? and she said it would be raised up as fraud. Now I'm stuck again and dont know what to do, use real name or ⊗⊗⊗⊗.

Vicvelcro 05-22-2010 09:40 AM

The lady at HSBC lied. Go ahead and add the HSBC account to Paypal and transfer your funds when you need to.

oompaloompa 05-22-2010 02:03 PM

you can use same address as banned one BUT with slight tweaks, eg different name or give a different postcode, eg last letter different (sometimes long roads have more than one postcode) . How about instead of a door number, use a house name instead. I would not risk the exact same name and address though, you are asking for trouble..

also, I think I depends how long ago address was banned, several years ago, well you are ok, but if you have been banned last week and starting again is a bit obvious, it doesnt allow for the fact that people may have moved in all those years....

galvatron 05-22-2010 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicvelcro (Post 140039)
Clone the MAC of the working router into the spare router. Try it and let me know.

:hail: YOU ARE THE KING :hail:

I got my working MAC and put that in the spare one and it works I now have 2 static MACs :dance:

Thanks mate,:thumb: this will save me soooooo much time in the long run ( once I have my stealth accounts up), I'm off to buy more off these routers.

galvatron 05-22-2010 05:57 PM

Also firdt thing on Monday return the o2 Doungle, theres no need for it now. Good thing I had a 14 day money back guarantee :)

Vicvelcro 05-22-2010 07:30 PM

Whoa!

Since that worked, you don't need to buy anything. Next time you need an IP, change the last 2 pairs in your Router MAC.

Example:
00:00:00:00:11:22 change to 00:00:00:00:33:44

The values are in HEX which is base-16. digits and letters A-F are valid.
00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 10 11 12 13 ... 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F 20 ...


Quote:

Originally Posted by galvatron (Post 140073)
:hail: YOU ARE THE KING :hail:

I got my working MAC and put that in the spare one and it works I now have 2 static MACs :dance:

Thanks mate,:thumb: this will save me soooooo much time in the long run ( once I have my stealth accounts up), I'm off to buy more off these routers.


sax4 05-23-2010 07:05 AM

So regarding addresses I really don't know what to do now, I need to get a stealth account up and running asap, this is a grey area it seems

galvatron 05-23-2010 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicvelcro (Post 140092)
Whoa!

Since that worked, you don't need to buy anything. Next time you need an IP, change the last 2 pairs in your Router MAC.

Example:
00:00:00:00:11:22 change to 00:00:00:00:33:44

The values are in HEX which is base-16. digits and letters A-F are valid.
00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 10 11 12 13 ... 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F 20 ...

Well I'm thinking off a long teem plan, where I have 10's of accounts (I dont even have 1 yet). In that case I will need 10's of routers, so that I can just plug n go.
Also with the trick you mentioned above "change the last 2 pairs in your Router MAC", this may not work as I think my working router MAC is registered with Virgin, thats why the spare router didnt work. I think :noidea:

I think the only real way I will know for sure is if I try it with the router I have right now, so I'll do that in a bit ans see what happens. Other wise its not really a big issue as I can always sell the routers that get infected and buy another one, problem solved :D

GreenBean 05-23-2010 07:12 AM

ffs, stop going off topic. :fight:

galvatron 05-23-2010 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sasasasa (Post 140212)
So regarding addresses I really don't know what to do now, I need to get a stealth account up and running asap, this is a grey area it seems

oompa gave the answer to your question yesterday.

Quote:

Originally Posted by oompaloompa (Post 140044)
you can use same address as banned one BUT with slight tweaks, eg different name or give a different postcode, eg last letter different (sometimes long roads have more than one postcode) . How about instead of a door number, use a house name instead. I would not risk the exact same name and address though, you are asking for trouble..

also, I think I depends how long ago address was banned, several years ago, well you are ok, but if you have been banned last week and starting again is a bit obvious, it doesnt allow for the fact that people may have moved in all those years....


GreenBean 05-23-2010 07:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sasasasa (Post 140212)
So regarding addresses I really don't know what to do now, I need to get a stealth account up and running asap, this is a grey area it seems

sasasasa, are you doing the same business as last round? Or do you have a need to have access to the address for possible returns?:spy:

GreenBean 05-23-2010 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicvelcro (Post 140004)
The lady at HSBC lied. Go ahead and add the HSBC account to Paypal and transfer your funds when you need to.

Really? That's been your experience with them in the UK? Must have changed since February :peace:

galvatron 05-23-2010 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 140219)
Really? That's been your experience with them in the UK? Must have changed since February :peace:

Yeh GB, well I opend it up and then went into the branch to put some money in to it so that I can get a VCC. While I was there I thought I ask, cant hurt. The lady told me no it will come up as fraud. But like Vic said she either lied or doesnt know and made up an answer on the spot.

I'll link it any ways with a slightly altered name with PP and see what happens, if for what ever reason I cant get to my money I'll let everyone know. :typing:

GreenBean 05-23-2010 07:39 AM

HSBC were knocking mis-matching names earlier in the year particularly in the UK:peace:

galvatron 05-23-2010 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 140223)
HSBC were knocking mis-matching names earlier in the year particularly in the UK:peace:

Ahh so its best to use my real name with the HSBC account then, but change everything else.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicvelcro (Post 140092)
Whoa!

Since that worked, you don't need to buy anything. Next time you need an IP, change the last 2 pairs in your Router MAC.

Example:
00:00:00:00:11:22 change to 00:00:00:00:33:44

The values are in HEX which is base-16. digits and letters A-F are valid.
00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 10 11 12 13 ... 1A 1B 1C 1D 1E 1F 20 ...

I just tried mate, but cant seem to login any more the user name that I used yesterday was "virgin" and password was "password" and that how I got in yesterday. For some strange reason it wont let me log in today. :smash:

Vicvelcro 05-23-2010 04:24 PM

Yes, that has been my experience with HSBC for my UK personna. Still no problems to this very day.

Maybe I've just gotten lucky.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 140219)
Really? That's been your experience with them in the UK? Must have changed since February :peace:


Vicvelcro 05-23-2010 04:28 PM

So it seems you are using equipment provided by THEM. Borrow or buy a normal router. I recommend Linksys if you can get one. Then unplug the ethernet from your PC, put the PC end into the WAN port of the router, run a line from port 1 of the router to your PC. Then try getting online. If it works, change the MAC of the linksys. You can hide behind that. But to change IP, you'll still have to do that from the Virgin provided equipment...


Quote:

Originally Posted by galvatron (Post 140227)
I just tried mate, but cant seem to login any more the user name that I used yesterday was "virgin" and password was "password" and that how I got in yesterday. For some strange reason it wont let me log in today. :smash:


bode 05-25-2010 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicvelcro (Post 139812)
You don't see a connection? Recycling addresses, and repeat suspensions?

I've never used the same address twice. And I've never had an account get suspended more than once from any address I've used.

Maybe I'm just lucky in a trivial sorta way.

Unrelated and never had multiple suspensions on the one account.

sax4 05-26-2010 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galvatron (Post 140216)
oompa gave the answer to your question yesterday.

I'm not getting notifications of replies to threads by email, until about 7am every day when they all come in one batch

Vicvelcro 05-26-2010 11:54 PM

I didn't say repeat suspensions on the SAME account. I meant that recycling an address for separate accounts will lead to you repeatedly losing several accounts.

Acct A = 123 Main.
Acct B = 123 Main. (get's linked to A and both suspended)
Acct C = 123 Main. (C gets nuked)
Acct D = 123 Main. (They start thinking the whole alphabet will turn out to be dumb*sses...)

You gotta change everything when you create a new acct. Never reuse any info you have EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER ^ ~ used anytime anywhere previously. Unless getting spanked is your hobby.

Quote:

Originally Posted by bode (Post 140610)
Unrelated and never had multiple suspensions on the one account.


bode 05-27-2010 04:44 PM

I was suspended once at this address and all other accounts survived.

Suspended at another address and all other accounts survived.

Name and address is not an issue, everything else is.

If you start providing false addresses that don't appear on any database then you're gonna get flagged.


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