| |  | | | mantisinc | 02-08-2008 05:39 AM | Proven method for opening up a new UK sellers account BEFORE YOU READ (Update 20/03/08)
Please be aware, that the below guidelines will apply for every account you open. Now ebay requires a VERIFIED paypal account to be linked to every ebay account if you want to sell, it means that for every ebay account that gets suspended, you will need a new verified paypal account, thus needing to open a new bank account. So, think carefully before you setup your new account, read through ALL of the guidelines on the forum regarding clearing cookies, changing IP address, email address, etc. THEN proceed with my guide :) Okay mantisinc, hit me with the info...
Hi guys,
I have seen a lot of success stories for opening a new US eBay accounts, but haven't heard any for UK. Well, I thought I would share how I did it, for the rest of the Brits having problems opening their account. Seems there are only a few Brits on here, so thought it would certainly be worth sharing how to go about it.
The first steps have already been discussed, so I won't repeat them. Includes changing IP address, creating new email account, entering address details, etc. Just do a forum search for them.
Then, set up an account with Prepaid Virtual VISA Cards by EntroPay. Very easy application process, and gives you an instant virtual card. Upload some funds with a genuine debit card; this will NOT be linked to your account, so it can be your genuine details. You can transfer a minimum of £5 to your virtual credit card, which is one of the great things about it. There are also no monthly fees, or anything of the kind. So, within about 5 minutes, you have an online virtual credit card, with funds, that you can use to setup your seller account.
For the landline number, this is even easier, and cheaper. Go to UK VoIP Internet Phone Service - VoIP PBX Switchboard and Telephony services, setup a free account instantly. Download the x-lite softfone, which will allow you to pick up the calls. You will need to enter your account username and password when installing the software, so any numbers attached to your account will ring on the installed phone. Then, on your account, click on the "Buy UK local number" link. You will then go through a selection process of what area code number you need, and it's beneficial to have the area code the same as the area in your ebay address. The number is about £2.50, so nothing that will harm your wallet. (When buying, it will ask you to verify your details by phone. It's fine, you will receive an automated call from voipfone, and just plug in the details on the phone that they ask you.) Well, that's your number bought.
Now, open up your softphone, and make sure it says you are connected. Now, try ringing your new number, and it will start ringing on your softphone. This means your number works!
Now, when you are setting up your sellers account, give them your new landline number. Your softtphone will ring, then click on the green button to pick it up. Listen to the verification number ebay give you, and jot it down. Then just enter it in your ebay account, and you are done.
This has worked for me, and I'm sure it will work for you guys to.
I'm nearly done with verifying my paypal account, when I have success, I'l share how I did that as well.
I hope this helps other guys out in the UK, certainly worked for me! EDIT - AS FROM MARCH 2008
It now appears ebay require a bank account to be added to the ebay account in order to just OPEN the dam thing, along with a credit card and phone verification.
With the bank account, you NEED real details. But it's okay, the name of the bank account they ask you to enter can be different to the actual name on your bank account.(as 100% proven via paypal), but the bank account number, branch location and sort code must be real. It seems ebay let you enter ANY name, unlike paypal where the surname must the same as the name of the paypal account holder. They do not put deposits into your account like paypal, but just want the bank details. A pain, but it seems to be their new requirement. Pretty painless process adding the bank account though. **Important information regarding bank Halifax** (20/03/08)
As notified by yeff, it appears that the Halifax web savers accounts WILL NOT WORK. Once the two deposits are initiated, paypal will not accept the bank account information. Why? I'm not sure. If I get more info, I'l update here. So something to bear in mind when choosing what account to go for.
What bank would I choose? Well I'd choose Abbey. You can open up a secondary account under your main account, to save having to go to another bank and open up an entirely new account. The secondary account process is very easy, because they already have all your details. Simply pop into a branch and ask to open up a secondary account. Maybe other banks offer this, I'm not sure, but I know that Abbey 100% do. But wait, there is more...
You also need to link a verified paypal account in order to start selling. And yes, this DOES mean that for every ebay account that gets suspended, you will need to create a new paypal account. So there's a warning in case you get some heart pain when the error message comes up. Update 19/03/08 - Some information about being friendly at the bank
Some people seem to be concerned about opening up multiple bank accounts, which now, you will have to do for every ebay account/paypal account you get through. With all the accounts I open, I simply tell them **nearly** the truth. All I say is that I need to open up a new paypal account to help sort out my sources of income online, and for every new paypal account a separate bank account is needed. They ususally sympathise with the amount of trouble you are having trying to manage your income, and are more than happy to help you out! |
| GreenBean | 02-08-2008 06:17 AM | Well Done, old man, well done. |
| powerbid | 02-08-2008 06:46 AM | :) nice post again :) |
| aspkin | 02-08-2008 06:56 AM | Good stuff mantisinc, thanks for sharing. |
| pauluss | 02-08-2008 07:02 AM | being from the UK to i can verify this process does work as well (tried and tested on several eBay & PayPal IDs)
well done |
| powerbid | 02-08-2008 07:17 AM | pauluss how to do u verify a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ paypal in UK? |
| pauluss | 02-08-2008 07:27 AM | * just open a new UK bank a/c that will allow & support a direct debit in your real name
* Add the new sort code & account number to UK PayPal
* Request the micro deposits
* 3 - 5 working days later - micro deposits appear
* Hey presto, bank account verified |
| jameswa29 | 02-08-2008 07:50 AM | Bank account Mantisinc - Can you share with us how you got over the entering bank account details for registering to sell with ebay???? |
| pauluss | 02-08-2008 08:32 AM | Jonas
Why you feel the need to inject useless crap into nearly each and every thread you come across
Take a step back, how much value does it add saying : "I heard in the UK they have some gay stuff now............."
Firstly,
1. "i have heard" there is a british saying if you cant saying anything of use dont bother
2. This post relates specifically to UK the initial poster is from UK and wants info SPECIFIC to UK
3. addiing a comment like you just have may very well steer the topic to where it should. This relates specific the UK and should have UK only content in it
4. ANY new uk member or browser can see what is actually contained in this thread as relevent saliant material, but its getting bull of gay stuff now !
If aspkin is giving our yearly awards for dips**t numbnutted daft fookas can i propose you Jonas for gold medal - ffs ..........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
off my soap box now and back to work
PAULUSS |
| powerbid | 02-08-2008 08:53 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by pauluss
(Post 24615)
* just open a new UK bank a/c that will allow & support a direct debit in your real name
* Add the new sort code & account number to UK PayPal
* Request the micro deposits
* 3 - 5 working days later - micro deposits appear
* Hey presto, bank account verified | wow never really attempted it :) will give it a try if it deemed important.. |
| ebayhateluv | 02-08-2008 09:20 AM | Paul..
I didnt read the post.. But maybe he was just trying to inject some humor??
I know myself--dealing with all the "Negativity" day in and day of having to be underground,,out of life gets hum drum..
--I dont know Jonas, so Im not sticking up for anyone, just throwing out a "benefit of the doubt"..:) |
| mantisinc | 02-08-2008 10:01 AM | Jameswa29, as Paul has said, you can just setup a normal bank account in your name as you would normally, and enter the details of that in your paypal. Don't worry about the name difference (so I am told.)
I'm opening up an under 18's savings account this weekend, so I'l be able to get back to you on that one for sure. :) |
| pauluss | 02-08-2008 11:32 AM | the account you need to register MUST support direct debits
an under 18 saving a/c wont work
I have posted on several UK based posts the a/c must absolute must support d/d |
| scouse12345 | 02-09-2008 08:29 AM | Paulus is quite correct, a tactic i use with my own accounts, is.. do not attempt to open to many "current" accounts." your bank requires credit searches.. I'm with RBS, open your first "savings account " with them, and they then let you have as many savings accounts as you want.. all with separate account numbers, and all you need to do, is call your bank tell them to open another account, and it's done right away... alternatively, register for internet banking, and you can sit for hours, opening fully workable uk accounts for either ebay or pp
scouse |
| mantisinc | 02-09-2008 09:41 AM | Paul, it does support direct debits, I was told by the woman in the bank.
Also, my other account which I opened when I was about 14 was verified fine...so I only assume that accepted DD to.
Need to wait 7-10 days for my card/online banking details to come through though. |
| pauluss | 02-09-2008 10:11 AM | "...........so I only assume that accepted DD to
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
nice that ASSUMPTION is better than actual FACT & EXPERIENCE |
| mantisinc | 02-09-2008 10:17 AM | Well, I can't tell you for certain, because I haven't been told it accepted direct debit. But I signed the account up for direct debit, received the deposits from paypal, entered them on my account, and verified myself.
So I think we can ASSUME that my account did accept DD :D
If not, then something must be seriously wrong... |
| jameswa29 | 02-12-2008 03:22 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by mantisinc
(Post 24655)
Jameswa29, as Paul has said, you can just setup a normal bank account in your name as you would normally, and enter the details of that in your paypal. Don't worry about the name difference (so I am told.)
I'm opening up an under 18's savings account this weekend, so I'l be able to get back to you on that one for sure. :) | But the thing is i dont need the account for paypal, i have all new paypal sorted. I just need new or ⊗⊗⊗⊗ bank account details to enter for selling on ebay, anyone any ideas??? I have searched on here but all seems to be for america. |
| mantisinc | 02-12-2008 04:33 AM | Huh? You don't need bank account details for ebay. You just need a credit card. For that, you can sign up to www.entropay.com and setup a virtual credit card with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details.
Then all you will need to confirm is your landline number. |
| jameswa29 | 02-12-2008 04:53 AM | Bank Acc Well this must be something new then, as when i created my new ebay id (tel no has been confirmed) it would let me create only a buying ID and not a selling one until i enter both a credit card and a bank account onto their system, without it i can register as a seller. Any clues??? |
| powerbid | 02-12-2008 08:57 AM | jamesws is right.. creating seller account sometimes asks for bank info too.. just dump that account and create a new id.. chances are u wont be asked for bank details |
| jameswa29 | 02-12-2008 09:04 AM | From looking at ebays help pages, they are now insisting all new sellers register a bank acc and credit card. So am a bit stuck really:( |
| mantisinc | 02-12-2008 01:21 PM | Wow, that must be within the past few weeks.
That's a bit of a pig really... |
| powerbid | 02-12-2008 04:34 PM | well yes something really has changed during these past few weeks.. now when u first time try to list something and want to create a seller account.. it wont just ask for credit card.. it will say that how u wanna pay ur seller fees..
1. paypal.
2. credit card
3. bank account..
the note also tells keep your landline number handy as ebay might call to verify.... so in short now ebay is gonna verifiy your phone and credit card at same time... haan.. and maybe also require u to put in bank account on file despite putting a cc and landlin ph..
pheeeeeewwwwwwwwwww !!! |
watchout watch out for this one scouse old chap, particularly internet banking. If you open a lot of savings accounts, it flags on the banks system as potential fraud, puts you under scrutiny and makes it difficult to open different accounts. e.g. my gf and I applied for a particular type of joint account, and it was refused because she had opened lots of online savers, merely as a way of organising her money. thankfully, the bank manager is a good friend, so he talked to the higher up people, explained the situation and we got the account. But, watch out for opening too many (just online?) savers with the same bank. Quote:
Originally Posted by scouse12345
(Post 24795)
Paulus is quite correct, a tactic i use with my own accounts, is.. do not attempt to open to many "current" accounts." your bank requires credit searches.. I'm with RBS, open your first "savings account " with them, and they then let you have as many savings accounts as you want.. all with separate account numbers, and all you need to do, is call your bank tell them to open another account, and it's done right away... alternatively, register for internet banking, and you can sit for hours, opening fully workable uk accounts for either ebay or pp
scouse | |
| silver_surfer | 02-12-2008 05:07 PM | Is there any way that ebay will verify if the bank account is real or not? This is suprising to me too, as I have yet to create my new account, now this info is making me think that it won't be possible... |
| powerbid | 02-12-2008 05:18 PM | yes bank is verified by setting up direct debit.. if direct debit is refused they know its not correct.. if you put someone elses bank account number if by any chance that was a real bank a/c, you will be caught sooner or later.. so i would definitly suggest not to do this blindly.. make sure you enter your correct bank details.. a bank which is not associated with previous suspended ids.. i have yet to find out if ebay is requiring bank on all new accounts |
| silver_surfer | 02-12-2008 05:26 PM | Damn, if only I had opened my ebay account(s) earlier before they implemented this lol. I checked the help page on opening a new seller account and they do say you need to give bank details and cc/debit card details. Maybe we have ebay spies monitoring this board.... |
| LongMan | 02-12-2008 05:31 PM | This is kinda weird, I've been asked by eBay for my "bank details" on all the seller accounts I've created over the last 8 months and have never had a problem, or am I reading something wrong here? |
| silver_surfer | 02-12-2008 05:35 PM | Lets pause for a moment here, if I am able to create a new bank account using my real details obviiously such as my name, and then I create a new ebay account with different details, but submit this bank account, if after seeing the name of the bank account holder, will they link this to my old accounts?
LongMan, did ebay establish direct debit with these bank accounts, and I am assuming that these bank accounts had you're real first name and surname? |
| LongMan | 02-12-2008 05:39 PM | S_S, I opted to pay my seller fees by credit card so they never asked to verify my bank account details by DD. |
| silver_surfer | 02-12-2008 05:43 PM | I find ebay silly for asking to verify both credit card AND bank account info ;) (powerbid, no offence was meant to you, I misrepresented my words)
Did you're banking info contain you're real name and therefore match you're previous banking info associated with the suspended account? Or was it false banking info? |
| LongMan | 02-12-2008 05:48 PM | What I find is a little simple research is needed for the bank information. Firstly make sure the bank address and sort code match together and are real. Then put a random number for the a/c no. And use your eBay first and second name. |
| powerbid | 02-12-2008 05:51 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by powerbid
(Post 25193)
i have yet to find out if ebay is requiring bank on all new accounts | >>>> Powerbid is saying that once you submit the bank details, they will verify with Direct debit, which is a bit silly why they are asking for both a valid credit card and banking info.
hello ?? did u really read what i posted earlier ???
i never said that you HAVE TO VERIFY by bank.. it was MEANT TO BE IF you verify by bank then YES its a standard procedure ebay establishes a direct debit with your bank account.. if you dont know ebay workings in UK you better learn rather than objecting on someones comment... dont expect to read what you want to read.. |
| silver_surfer | 02-12-2008 05:53 PM | Thanks LongMan, I'll have to confirm whether or not ebay attempt to immediately set up direct debit with the submitted bank account. If it does then I will have to change my approach, if it doesn't then its basically the same situation as you, and you've been going strong for 8 months so it cant be all that bad ;) All this is making me think I should get started on opening a new seller account on the bay asap. |
| powerbid | 02-12-2008 05:54 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by LongMan
(Post 25200)
Then put a random number for the a/c no. And use your eBay first and second name. | this might be working for US ebay accounts.. but in UK chances are very bright you will setup a direct debit with someone elses bank account... and these days most of us use internet banking what if the victim reports you ;) |
| silver_surfer | 02-12-2008 05:54 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by powerbid
(Post 25201)
>>>> Powerbid is saying that once you submit the bank details, they will verify with Direct debit, which is a bit silly why they are asking for both a valid credit card and banking info.
hello ?? did u really read what i posted earlier ???
i never said that you HAVE TO VERIFY by bank.. it was MEANT TO BE IF you verify by bank then YES its a standard procedure ebay establishes a direct debit with your bank account.. if you dont know ebay workings in UK you better learn rather than objecting on someones comment... dont expect to read what you want to read.. | Sorry if I offended, I certainly didn't mean to. I misread what you wrote and I will edit the post now :) |
| powerbid | 02-12-2008 05:58 PM | Originator (payee) ID:
Originator (payee) name: EBAY
Reference number: EXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Originator (payee) ID: XXXXXXX
this is one of the direct debit ebay setup when i gave them my bank info..... ((( xxx obviosly represents omitted numbers))) |
| LongMan | 02-12-2008 05:59 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by powerbid
(Post 25203)
this might be working for US ebay accounts.. but in UK chances are very bright you will setup a direct debit with someone elses bank account... and these days most of us use internet banking what if the victim reports you ;) | Whatever you do, don't setup a direct debit with the made up information as IT WILL NOT WORK as it will not be valid. Both the sort code and a/c no. have to match together to make a valid DD so picking both correct would incredibly rare. |
| powerbid | 02-12-2008 06:04 PM | thats what i have been trying to make clear to you guys.. its a waste of energy and time... if you succeed it still means somethings not right either :)
ps: silver surfer.. its really ok.. i really thought u had created tons of ebay accounts by now but obviously not :) | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:01 AM. | |
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