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ebaywanton 10-26-2020 01:33 PM

mp banned
 
Hi, so a few people on the forum said they would find out if they were activated today with stealth docs; how's it going lads?

DarkKnight17 10-26-2020 02:45 PM

Re: mp banned
 
:pop2: :pop2:

LarryBennett 10-27-2020 04:04 AM

Re: mp banned
 
Here it is something for motivational purpose only.

The creative way which I used to create this 100% stealth I found on the forum and I used my brain to connect the dots.

Stealth is not Dead, actually its better now since the competition is dyeing day by day, for context I tried 10 accounts 7 dead - 3 succeed but I tested many things so now i know what to do :)
https://snipboard.io/m4ocIM.jpg

Uavmods 10-27-2020 04:13 AM

Re: mp banned
 
Well let us all know how you did it

rsot 10-27-2020 06:14 AM

Re: mp banned
 
Nice work so far LarryBennett

phaz0rz 10-27-2020 06:47 AM

Re: mp banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryBennett (Post 1121870)
Stealth is not Dead, actually its better now since the competition is dyeing day by day, for context I tried 10 accounts 7 dead - 3 succeed but I tested many things so now i know what to do :)

It's still a ruthless buyer-centric system once you do manage to get in. Sellers have almost zero options for fighting disputes/chargebacks in MP. I hate it and I do not think this new system will do eBay any favors in the long run.

I've had two chargebacks since I got in. One was an "unauthorized" chargeback which I won since the order was shipped to the address which matched their CC.

The 2nd one was a nightmare. Buyer charges back using "not described" as the reason. This was after they'd already opened and closed a return request, which ended in the buyer refusing to send their order back despite me providing a label. We'd already sold thousands of this item while maintaining 100% positive feedback. I knew for sure the buyer was scamming me, explained that fact to eBay.. they couldn't care less.

Anyway, I go to fight the chargeback from eBay's new interface, and literally the only option I have is to upload a single picture. How the hell am I supposed to prove my case with a single jpeg image? I uploaded a picture of the item the buyer bought, and needless to say, I lost the chargeback a week later. It was a clear cut case of fraud but eBay can't be bothered to look into it.

I'm kinda derailing the thread here but I guess the point is, be very, very careful selling in MP because MP cares even less about sellers than Paypal ever has.

james_112233 10-27-2020 07:19 AM

Re: mp banned
 
Ebay expects sellers to eat the occasional loss and they will turn your business in to a win by sending you a tonne of new buyers.

That thief that stole from you will continue to do so until there is a pattern on his account of constantly claiming item not as described or excessive returns and he will be banned.

Meanwhile ebay expects you to have a solid business plan that can take a hit a certain number of times a year. If it can't then make way for a new seller selling the same products as you.

It's as simple as that I believe.

mike75493245 10-27-2020 07:20 AM

Re: mp banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1121899)
It's still a ruthless buyer-centric system once you do manage to get in. Sellers have almost zero options for fighting disputes/chargebacks in MP. I hate it and I do not think this new system will do eBay any favors in the long run.

ebay is after quick buck here , they know the sellers can not run away so for now they will be squeezing them as much as they can. however , the day of reckoning will be coming because the US corporate profits system is no less ruthless than ebay is ruthless to the sellers , once profits from seller fees start falling down substantially there will be trouble

arshavin 10-27-2020 07:41 AM

Re: mp banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryBennett (Post 1121870)
Here it is something for motivational purpose only.

The creative way which I used to create this 100% stealth I found on the forum and I used my brain to connect the dots.

Stealth is not Dead, actually its better now since the competition is dyeing day by day, for context I tried 10 accounts 7 dead - 3 succeed but I tested many things so now i know what to do :)
https://snipboard.io/m4ocIM.jpg

I mean no offence here.

But i don't believe you.

ross88 10-27-2020 09:49 AM

Re: mp banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by LarryBennett (Post 1121870)
Here it is something for motivational purpose only.

The creative way which I used to create this 100% stealth I found on the forum and I used my brain to connect the dots.

Stealth is not Dead, actually its better now since the competition is dyeing day by day, for context I tried 10 accounts 7 dead - 3 succeed but I tested many things so now i know what to do :)
https://snipboard.io/m4ocIM.jpg

Enlighten us Larry? what is your Method? Help the community. Cheers

agent006140 10-27-2020 10:03 AM

Re: mp banned
 
since when is uploading a picture works in a dispute?
Back then Ebay robots and Paypal robots do not read emails,watch video or picture,so why would MP robot?
Unless seller appeal and a human looks into it,but still it is a he said she said situation,picture really has no value in a dispute,but it works with insurer(USPS,UPIC) and if it is not a large sum and you are a good seller,Ebay may compensate you out of its pocket.

agent006140 10-27-2020 10:08 AM

Re: mp banned
 
here is something irrelevant but funny-
years ago someone bought a Ralph Lauren cashmere coat for $400 by looking at a stock photo posted by the seller.
Seller shipped with tracking a picture of the coat!
Buyer filed INAD with picture of the coat and lost ,buyer has to keep reiterating to Ebay rep and explain she paid $400 for a coat NOt a picture of a coat!
She finally got her money back!

DarkKnight17 10-31-2020 09:10 AM

Re: mp banned
 
:pound::pound::pound::pound::pound:

rsot 11-02-2020 04:37 AM

Re: mp banned
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1121924)
here is something irrelevant but funny-
years ago someone bought a Ralph Lauren cashmere coat for $400 by looking at a stock photo posted by the seller.
Seller shipped with tracking a picture of the coat!
Buyer filed INAD with picture of the coat and lost ,buyer has to keep reiterating to Ebay rep and explain she paid $400 for a coat NOt a picture of a coat!
She finally got her money back!

Morning chuckles - thanks :) I remember when eBay was "new" and this would occur quite a bit


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