VCC Help

[jes436]

Originally Posted by TizWoz

your first EP is your Full real deatil, when you stealth you create a card to match the name of EBy or PP account name, no other details matter apart from numbers and expire date, nothing else is checked, but i would not use EP at all becuase somethins is not right imo

what do you mean by "but i would not use EP at all becuase somethins is not right imo "

what is the alternative to EP then if you want to open several ebay and paypal accounts??

[Stigger]

i mean i dont use it becuase i think there are too many problems with it.

There are other option on this forum and around that net but im not about to start posting links, google is a good place to start.

[GrannyT]

Originally Posted by TizWoz

There are other option on this forum and around that net but im not about to start posting links, google is a good place to start.

IMHO we need a little bit more of this attitude to stop assets going down - but that's just my opinion.

It's difficult when newbies take some of the assets we mention and then through ignorance, stupidity or the lack of intelligence to absorb basic knowledge they finish up destroying what we collectively try to put together.

You can see it in some of the comments that are made about very clear and concise advise - I don't understand ......, so what you're saying is ...., So can I do this ......., it's endless.

I don't have the answer but I cannot help wondering if we are not going to kill ourselves off by sharing what we know. Maybe a pre-requisite for asking questions on these forums would be to have bought and read the guide

[jes436]

Originally Posted by grannytranny

IMHO we need a little bit more of this attitude to stop assets going down - but that's just my opinion.

It's difficult when newbies take some of the assets we mention and then through ignorance, stupidity or the lack of intelligence to absorb basic knowledge they finish up destroying what we collectively try to put together.

You can see it in some of the comments that are made about very clear and concise advise - I don't understand ......, so what you're saying is ...., So can I do this ......., it's endless.

I don't have the answer but I cannot help wondering if we are not going to kill ourselves off by sharing what we know. Maybe a pre-requisite for asking questions on these forums would be to have bought and read the guide

people who give up helping others are useless

[Imakemoney]

wow - people are trying to help you here.... I think you need to change your attitude if you want anymore help in this forum

[GrannyT]

Originally Posted by jes436

people who give up helping others are useless

Jes - you come onto this forum asking questions, yet you cannot be bothered to invest in the one thing that will answer all your questions. Instead you expect the people who subscribe to solve all your problems for you but you don't feel you have to put anything in.

We all have been in your situation and all to some degree have been helped by the people here - me most certainly. Most of us put back by trying to help and by buying the guide - I didn't become a subscribed VIP because Aspkin or GreenBean liked the cut of my jib.

Now, I would hazard a guess and say I am substantially older than you and one of the things I have learned in my many years is that you never bite the hand that feeds you.

You might think my comments make me useless - and you are welcome to think that

Someone once said it is better to keep your mouth closed and have everyone think you are an idiot, than to open it and prove it beyond all doubt

Have a nice day

[Stigger]

Originally Posted by jes436

people who give up helping others are useless

Ah but confuser tizwaz say
you cannot help others unless you can help yourself and in order to help yourself you must help those around you to help you help them help you

Swings and round abouts

looks like your falling off
dont refuse the hand that helping you back on.

[jes436]

Originally Posted by TizWoz

Ah but confuser tizwaz say
you cannot help others unless you can help yourself and in order to help yourself you must help those around you to help you help them help you

Swings and round abouts

looks like your falling off
dont refuse the hand that helping you back on.

ok sorry, i will now go pee in the sink as usual

[rsot]

@jes436 - i follow your frustration and let me try and breakdown it down simply.

1. You set up EP (Entr op ay) account (seems liek you have done this).
2. You make X amount of sub-VCCs in different names (or same name - makes no difference you will see why in later steps)
3. Obviously, you fund these sub-VCCs from your main VCC card.
4. NOW, you set up X amount of pa yp al accounts - diff name, diff addresses, whatever.
5. You use 1 card per pp account - do NOT worry about address or name of card - EP will accept charges, make purchase, etc.
6. That's the beauty of EP - no need to fiddle with address details - PP will accept whatever you provide.

NOW, the problem is this: PP is getting heavy on EP cards from what I am seeing - still worth a shot BUT if you can, get physical bank gift credit cards. For THOSE, you will have to register online YOUR STEALTH ADDRESS DETAILS.

Hope it is clear. All the best.

[GTB]

yeah,tizwoz has highlighted something potentially important

im not sure if pp can tell if the vcc you added is from entropay but if they can,they may flag your acct just because its entropay and it is well known to be used by us criminals

so it could be something you might want to keep in mind

or it could be complete paranoia.............?????

[rsot]

Pa yp al knows about EP based on digit flags.

[GrannyT]

Originally Posted by MR GTB

or it could be complete paranoia.............?????

Not at all Mr. GTB - a very valid and relevant point (But then I am paranoid)

[Stigger]

Originally Posted by MR GTB

yeah,tizwoz has highlighted something potentially important

im not sure if pp can tell if the vcc you added is from entropay but if they can,they may flag your acct just because its entropay and it is well known to be used by us criminals

so it could be something you might want to keep in mind

or it could be complete paranoia.............?????

ha ha maybe im paranoid, arn't we all, i thought i was just a side effect of going stealth, but if you follow the hands of time then you will see paypal remove company's like this, take cash plus as one example. it used to be widly used but no longer can be.

[GrannyT]

Originally Posted by TizWoz

ha ha maybe im paranoid, arn't we all, i thought i was just a side effect of going stealth, but if you follow the hands of time then you will see paypal remove company's like this, take cash plus as one example. it used to be widly used but no longer can be.

Go back to my post a few up. Is it because we are too open with what we know?

If you ever bother to check who is online you will often see a dozen members and a 100 or more guests. Do these guests take the assets we discover and collectively burn them? I made the point that possibly a little more stealth on the forums would be appropriate and that, possibly, it should be a pre-requisite to have read the guide before coming onto the forums.

I see often experienced stealthers, and I include myself in that, having to spoon feed newbies who then come back for more because of an elementary mistake that could have been avoided by reading and implementing the information in the guide. They burn our assets around us.

Without a doubt assets such as withdrawing facilities are becoming more and more valuable and I know when I discover anything now I share it by PM. I'm scared that putting it on an open forum that I'm sure is full of trolls can result in those assets becoming less effective

I would appreciate your and any other subscribers views

[Imakemoney]

Im beginning to agee with this notion that new people could be burning peoples findings and loopholes to death.

When I create a post from now on I will definatly only be posting it in the subscribers section

[Stigger]

To grannytranny

i was just joking around, i have read all you posts, think your quite funny too, i do know where you comming from thats why i use pm for links and good information as you know



i know where your both comming from that's why i have only been discussing old information like using two savings account post 16 and 17 in this thread.

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/uk-payp...disagrees.html

although it still works well there are bettter ways

but like a poker player i always keep my best card close to my chest, things like how to open a verifed PP account using one savers (any) and if it accepts DD's or or not and not have it removed.

imakemoney guess i did some of your homework after all lol

[Imakemoney]

TizWoz - I know exactly what your doing dont worry haha

[Stigger]

Originally Posted by Imakemoney

TizWoz - I know exactly what your doing dont worry haha

good for you at least someone does because i don't have a clue

[Imakemoney]

just as well I do then

[Stigger]

Originally Posted by Imakemoney

just as well I do then

ha ha mysticimakemoney

You dont have the slightest clue what im up to, regardless of wether you think you do or not, what a ridcuols statment to make.

[GTB]

Originally Posted by grannytranny

Not at all Mr. GTB - a very valid and relevant point (But then I am paranoid)

it pays to be paranoid,seriously!

[GTB]

whos to say that the ugly trolls are not subscribers,anyone can subscribe,unless aspkin and GB have way to route them out

its just one of those things,but if i had a juicy way to avoid the issues we all face i would be keeping it close to my chest and would only disclose to the vets of the forum

but there is always a way round everything,theres always gunna be supply & demand

so aslong as we demand & need it there will be always a supply of ways to exploit fee bay and punk pal among others!