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I signed up to entropay with my real details, added a card with stealth details. But there was no-where to add an address for this card, so i'm guesing paying will pull my real address?.
What i did was, change my address to a stealth, and now it has my real name but stealth address

Entropay asked for my ID and address details. Sent them over. Entropay account is stable now.

I've just added a card to my paypal, and it all seems to be going ok, as the address will match this new one right?.

How do i go about using the entropay account to make new cards, as it means i will keep having to change the address, which entropay wont like.

My questions are in bold :p

There is no need to change your address on the entro account, as they do not share any of your information with anyone - the whole idea of entro is that they are anonymous use cards - you can tell ppal whatever you like regarding name and address on the card, it can be mickey mouse if that is what your name is on ppal acnd that will be fine.

If you start changing your address and details on entro pay too much they may suspend your account, and that WILL be a pain!

When you need a new entro card, just create one, they have no names on - you can call them what you like, ie card 1, card 2, card 3, etc, none of this information is shared with ppal

Entr op ay is one of the few VCC cards that can be used for any address.

i have suspicions about entro pay and PP, I would use something else but this is my personal opinion.

I can't get Entropay to work for me - I've given up on it
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how is it not working GT? they asked you for docs or something?

No hon, tried it three times with PP and EB and each time all the alarm buttns went off. I used a P/Paid and a new B/account and it all went through sweet as a nut.

Maybe I'm doing something wrong but the cards I created all had £10 - £15 on but just didn't work.

But then again I am blonde
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hmmm I cant think what your doing wrong - ive made several accounts over the past week and had no problems.

What you mean the alarm buttons went off?

what exactly are you using entropay for - turning buyer accounts into seller accounts or for paypal? or ebay fees?

Turning buyers accounts into sellers accounts

They then went ID and 'further verification'
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hmmm I cant see why. I presume your changing IP etc?

Sending PM now...

I still agree that physical gift credit cards are much better than entr op ay - seems to me that pp is catching on to their service pretty hard.

this is the kind of thing i am talking about, i dont think the problem is actually adding the card when creating new accounts but when it comes to verification time your fubbered, i think thats why Imakemoney can't see the problem yet, but trust me im no fool and been at this along time, i know when somthings not right and entropay and pp are not right together any more imo

Guess time will tell .


i totally agree with this statment and have done for some time.

Ive not verified one of the cards in the past week but I will look into it.

To the above - Are you saying that you can no longer confirm an entropay card with paypal?

I know its not lifting the £1900 limit anymore - they always ask for docs now

No, im not saying that, im saying you may verfiy it but i think it flaggs your account, i was comming upto the limit recently and got ask to check the resolution centre, when i checked everything was green but was still asked for id, anyway i had my susspsions about EP so removed the card and added another one, the request for id went away, WHY ? who know but i suspect it was to do with the EP card and all this was with a legit account with real details on both EP and PP

so if you creat a 10 GBP vcc and dont work on PP and ebay then you end up loosing money on the transaction feee etc

@jes436 - goes without saying - a low end "gamble"

Wow.. my thread was totally hijacked lol.

:focus: - shadow your questions have already been answered

When using entropay ALWAYS use your REAL NAME and REAL ADDRESS - dont keep changing your address to fit your stealth details.

The whole point of entropay is that paypal etc cannot see what name is on your account.

can you pls revise that?

does not make sense

Makes perfect sense - open your EP account with real details - use ⊗⊗⊗⊗ details on PP - makes perfect sense - doesn't it?:doh:

your first EP is your Full real deatil, when you stealth you create a card to match the name of EBy or PP account name, no other details matter apart from numbers and expire date, nothing else is checked, but i would not use EP at all becuase somethins is not right imo

What doesnt make sense? It makes perfect sense - read it again! :doh:

what do you mean by "but i would not use EP at all becuase somethins is not right imo "

what is the alternative to EP then if you want to open several ebay and paypal accounts??

i mean i dont use it becuase i think there are too many problems with it.

There are other option on this forum and around that net but im not about to start posting links, google is a good place to start.

IMHO we need a little bit more of this attitude to stop assets going down - but that's just my opinion.

It's difficult when newbies take some of the assets we mention and then through ignorance, stupidity or the lack of intelligence to absorb basic knowledge they finish up destroying what we collectively try to put together.

You can see it in some of the comments that are made about very clear and concise advise - I don't understand ......, so what you're saying is ...., So can I do this ......., it's endless.

I don't have the answer but I cannot help wondering if we are not going to kill ourselves off by sharing what we know. Maybe a pre-requisite for asking questions on these forums would be to have bought and read the guide

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people who give up helping others are useless

wow - people are trying to help you here.... I think you need to change your attitude if you want anymore help in this forum :doh::doh::doh:

Jes - you come onto this forum asking questions, yet you cannot be bothered to invest in the one thing that will answer all your questions. Instead you expect the people who subscribe to solve all your problems for you but you don't feel you have to put anything in.

We all have been in your situation and all to some degree have been helped by the people here - me most certainly. Most of us put back by trying to help and by buying the guide - I didn't become a subscribed VIP because Aspkin or GreenBean liked the cut of my jib.

Now, I would hazard a guess and say I am substantially older than you and one of the things I have learned in my many years is that you never bite the hand that feeds you.

You might think my comments make me useless - and you are welcome to think that

Someone once said it is better to keep your mouth closed and have everyone think you are an idiot, than to open it and prove it beyond all doubt

Have a nice day:yar:

Ah but confuser tizwaz say
you cannot help others unless you can help yourself and in order to help yourself you must help those around you to help you help them help you

Swings and round abouts

looks like your falling off
dont refuse the hand that helping you back on.

sorry
 

ok sorry, i will now go pee in the sink as usual

@jes436 - i follow your frustration and let me try and breakdown it down simply.

1. You set up EP (Entr op ay) account (seems liek you have done this).
2. You make X amount of sub-VCCs in different names (or same name - makes no difference you will see why in later steps)
3. Obviously, you fund these sub-VCCs from your main VCC card.
4. NOW, you set up X amount of pa yp al accounts - diff name, diff addresses, whatever.
5. You use 1 card per pp account - do NOT worry about address or name of card - EP will accept charges, make purchase, etc.
6. That's the beauty of EP - no need to fiddle with address details - PP will accept whatever you provide.

NOW, the problem is this: PP is getting heavy on EP cards from what I am seeing - still worth a shot BUT if you can, get physical bank gift credit cards. For THOSE, you will have to register online YOUR STEALTH ADDRESS DETAILS.

Hope it is clear. All the best.

yeah,tizwoz has highlighted something potentially important

im not sure if pp can tell if the vcc you added is from entropay but if they can,they may flag your acct just because its entropay and it is well known to be used by us criminals:)

so it could be something you might want to keep in mind

or it could be complete paranoia.............?????

Pa yp al knows about EP based on digit flags.

Not at all Mr. GTB - a very valid and relevant point (But then I am paranoid)
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ha ha maybe im paranoid, arn't we all, i thought i was just a side effect of going stealth, but if you follow the hands of time then you will see paypal remove company's like this, take cash plus as one example. it used to be widly used but no longer can be.

Go back to my post a few up. Is it because we are too open with what we know?

If you ever bother to check who is online you will often see a dozen members and a 100 or more guests. Do these guests take the assets we discover and collectively burn them? I made the point that possibly a little more stealth on the forums would be appropriate and that, possibly, it should be a pre-requisite to have read the guide before coming onto the forums.

I see often experienced stealthers, and I include myself in that, having to spoon feed newbies who then come back for more because of an elementary mistake that could have been avoided by reading and implementing the information in the guide. They burn our assets around us.

Without a doubt assets such as withdrawing facilities are becoming more and more valuable and I know when I discover anything now I share it by PM. I'm scared that putting it on an open forum that I'm sure is full of trolls can result in those assets becoming less effective

I would appreciate your and any other subscribers views
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Im beginning to agee with this notion that new people could be burning peoples findings and loopholes to death.

When I create a post from now on I will definatly only be posting it in the subscribers section :peace:

To grannytranny

i was just joking around, i have read all you posts, think your quite funny too, i do know where you comming from thats why i use pm for links and good information as you know



i know where your both comming from that's why i have only been discussing old information like using two savings account post 16 and 17 in this thread.

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/uk-payp...disagrees.html

although it still works well there are bettter ways

but like a poker player i always keep my best card close to my chest, things like how to open a verifed PP account using one savers (any) and if it accepts DD's or or not and not have it removed.

imakemoney guess i did some of your homework after all lol

TizWoz - I know exactly what your doing dont worry haha :thumb:

good for you at least someone does because i don't have a clue