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mirus 07-05-2012 08:50 PM

Do you need a bank account?
 
To start a new ebay and paypal account do you need a bank account to verify or can you just use a prepaid card? I cant really understand it in the book.

Any help much appreciated!

Elijah 07-06-2012 05:25 AM

Only a bank account works to verify your PayPal and start selling on eBay. A card will not do this. So open as many bank accounts as you intend to open stealth accounts, add them to your PayPal account, and then link the PayPal to your eBay account. Once you do that you are ready to go.

If you need bank accounts then ask for "basic" accounts with no credit check or score. I recommend the Barclays Cash Card account. Deposits go in very quickly and it should be no problem to open up multiple accounts at once (I personally managed 5...).

mirus 07-06-2012 12:41 PM

But do you put those accounts in your real name or a nickname?

Ebayorbust 07-06-2012 12:43 PM

ALWAYS open bank accounts in your real name.

mirus 07-06-2012 12:45 PM

But what if Paypal see it?

NoneOther 07-06-2012 12:47 PM

They don't if you use the right banks and ensure that they never draw money from the account

mirus 07-06-2012 01:03 PM

So like entropay online bank?

crafty1 07-06-2012 01:10 PM

Did you actually read the book???

You can search the forum for all the questions you are asking

Can you clarify your question about EP?

mirus 07-06-2012 01:16 PM

Yes I've read the book 3 times actually!

I just need some assistance on the whole prepaid card and bank account part,don't get that bit tbh, not explained very well. It doesn't tell you for example if sites such as netspend and entropay can vetifyyour acccount? Or IS it only the santanders and Barclays of this world? What if you already have loads of accounts with those companies limited? Do you spell your name differentlu on these accounts to your Paypal?

NoneOther 07-06-2012 01:21 PM

You may have read but you don't seem to be understanding anything really.

En tro pay is not an online bank nor can it verify a p/p account.

Giving false information to banks will land you in jail, that is illegal

Keep reading it until you grasp the principles and then come back and get clarification on your plan.

TBH you're not likely to get many straight answers at this stage.

Go research and come back with a plan

crafty1 07-06-2012 01:31 PM

You need a UK bank account to get your PP verified.

Your bank account needs to be in your real details, PP won't see it unless they make a withdrawal from the account.

Elijah 07-06-2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirus (Post 357207)
Yes I've read the book 3 times actually!

I just need some assistance on the whole prepaid card and bank account part,don't get that bit tbh, not explained very well. It doesn't tell you for example if sites such as netspend and entropay can vetifyyour acccount?

I already explained the situation to you in the first post. Why did you not take any notice of it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirus (Post 357207)
What if you already have loads of accounts with those companies limited?

Then you close them down and open up some new ones. As simple as that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirus (Post 357207)
Do you spell your name differentlu on these accounts to your Paypal?

Jesus Christ, you surely seem to enjoy people repeating themselves. It was already explained that you must open bank accounts in your real details. Any attempts to do otherwise would constitute fraud and land you in prison. Use real details for your bank and phake details for PayPal. PayPal cannot see your bank details, so your phake PayPal details are not going to be a problem.

If you still ask the same questions after reading this, then I can only assume that you are a troll or an eBay/PayPal employee trying to rip the piss.

mirus 07-06-2012 03:57 PM

Give me a break mate I'm new to all this and I'm hearing different things from various sources that is why I'm asking all these questions!

I think I have a plan and will share this in the next few hours!

Thanks for the help

crafty1 07-06-2012 04:14 PM

What's the plan - Share it with us then

mirus 07-07-2012 04:44 PM

The plan

Step 1 - create a new email

I will create a new email with gmail removing/adding a letter in my first name

Step 2 - sign up for a new Paypal account

I will register for a new Paypal using my brand new email and the same altered spelling in my first name. I shall not use the same home address linked with my limited Paypal account. I shall not link my number with my new account & will instead get a new Number.

Step 3 - pre paid debit/credit card
I will next sign up for a prepaid card which I will need help with from other members of the forum as I don't know what would be the best one for a UK seller like myself. For this account I shall utilise my genuine name, surname & address.

Step 4 - next I will link my Paypal account to my new prepaid card.
Is it ok to do this with the different name spellings in both accounts?

Step 5 - next I shall add a bank account

Now this is the part I am having troubles to comprehend with!
What do I do?
Isit something to do with the company of my prepaid card?
I am in need of some assistance in this step

Is this the right way to go ?

Any help and advice is as usual much appreciated!

BubbleTea 07-07-2012 05:37 PM

Ahh.... don't add everything into the mix and confuse yourself.
I see you are confused about the bank part.
OK, think of it as a separate entity from the card.

So you have your VCC and you use that to verify/confirm Paypal.

Then you have your bank, which is opened in your REAL NAME AND ADDRESS, and you link it to your Paypal.

When you go to your bank, you will need to show them real documents with your real name and address and these real details will be on your bank account. This is the only way to ever open any bank any where.
Don't worry about this real name and address. Paypal does not see them.
Paypal only sees your account number.

When you link your bank to Paypal, on the PAYPAL page for your bank info, you will put in your ⊗⊗⊗⊗ Paypal and eBay account name and address and stuff. And put in your bank account number. In the name field, they will write that you need to make sure this name is the correct name that your bank has or there will be a £x fee. IGNORE THIS; it is not true if you are using the correct bank. Your need to enter your ⊗⊗⊗⊗ Paypal name and not your real bank name on the Paypal bank details page. Get it? They will send 2 payments to the account number and you will then enter the figure e.g. £0.23, etc. on the Paypal page to verify and link your bank.

After that you are good to go.
You can withdraw the funds from Paypal to your bank and Paypal will not see your real name and address on your bank... and you will get the funds in your bank.
ONE THING TO TAKE NOTE NEVER TO DO.
The funds can only go in a one-way traffic manner FROM Paypal to bank.
NEVER let the funds go FROM bank to Paypal... this will give Paypal your real name and address info.
TO ensure that PP does not withdraw funds from your bank, always make sure you have sufficient funds in your PP to pay for refunds and fees and whatever you use PP to purchase.

That's all to it.
Don't think too much and confuse yourself and worry unnecessarily.
I hope you understand it now.
I don't know how else to explain it better really.

mirus 07-07-2012 08:09 PM

Thankyou

It does make sense what most people are saying on here but the confusion comes from hearing different things from various other people that and also people on youtube saying another completely different thing.

But thanks

crafty1 07-08-2012 09:54 AM

Ignore Youtube and ask your questions on this forum........

I see that you are getting there but take each step at a time and read the guide again and again................Go through the forum and you'll see that your answers are there...

GreenBean 07-08-2012 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirus (Post 357611)
Thankyou

It does make sense what most people are saying on here but the confusion comes from hearing different things from various other people that and also people on youtube saying another completely different thing.

But thanks

Trust this forum.

Youtube is music only :nono:

slapped 07-08-2012 10:52 AM

Son, you NEED to Slow Down, you may have read the stealth guide 3 Times, but it is clear that you did NOT understand it once,,,,Take your time, it will all come together, I assure you, and remember, we will be here to help you,

NoneOther 07-08-2012 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirus (Post 357541)
The plan

Step 1 - create a new email

I will create a new email with gmail removing/adding a letter in my first name

Step 2 - sign up for a new Paypal account

I will register for a new Paypal using my brand new email and the same altered spelling in my first name. I shall not use the same home address linked with my limited Paypal account. I shall not link my number with my new account & will instead get a new Number.

Step 3 - pre paid debit/credit card
I will next sign up for a prepaid card which I will need help with from other members of the forum as I don't know what would be the best one for a UK seller like myself. For this account I shall utilise my genuine name, surname & address.

Step 4 - next I will link my Paypal account to my new prepaid card.
Is it ok to do this with the different name spellings in both accounts?

Step 5 - next I shall add a bank account

Now this is the part I am having troubles to comprehend with!
What do I do?
Isit something to do with the company of my prepaid card?
I am in need of some assistance in this step

Is this the right way to go ?

Any help and advice is as usual much appreciated!

1. Gmail account can be any name you like. Don't mess around with name variations.

2. As above. Don't mess around with name variations.

3. Choose the right card and you can have any name and address you like on it.

4. Dont mess around with name variations.

5. p/p do not see the name on the bank account providing you never let them take money from it by DD or using it for instant payment. Thats what prepaid cards are for.

Summary: You've still got a lot of work to do but the basic foundation is there.

Now it is vital you put the right pieces into it.

BubbleTea 07-08-2012 01:30 PM

Yeah, don't look at youtube or any other forum and sources.
Perhaps their methods may work, I don't know as I've never looked at them.
But look, you bought your stealth book from here and you've read it 3 times so stick to this method.
You cannot take a dozen different recipes and integrate all of them to cook a dish, can you? Unless you are a really good experienced chef, of course.
So just take one recipe and follow through it step by step... just like cooking, and you will be able to get your eBay stealth account dish prepared well.

mirus 07-08-2012 02:28 PM

Yer I'm Taking this whole thing step by step!

The only thing I have done so far is create a new user account on my computer and then later on tonight I shall set up a new email and Paypal in a slight name variation of my first name!

Is this right?

crafty1 07-08-2012 02:47 PM

Another user account is fine but you need to check your IP address to see if its static or dynamic before you continue.

record your IP and reset your modem and see if it gives you a new IP address, if it does you need to find a way to record this - Excel etc

crafty1 07-08-2012 02:48 PM

Most people will say don't go with a name variation which i agree, your details needs to be completely new......

mirus 07-08-2012 03:43 PM

Great thanks for the advice I shall update you on things in a few hours time

NoneOther 07-08-2012 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirus (Post 357769)
Yer I'm Taking this whole thing step by step!

The only thing I have done so far is create a new user account on my computer and then later on tonight I shall set up a new email and Paypal in a slight name variation of my first name!

Is this right?

Why do we bother sometimes?

Did you not understand from all the replies you've had that name variations are not recommended, ESPECIALLY JUST CHANGING A LETTER IN YOUR FRST NAME

Global 07-08-2012 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoneOther (Post 357735)
1. Gmail account can be any name you like. Don't mess around with name variations.

2. As above. Don't mess around with name variations.

3. Choose the right card and you can have any name and address you like on it.

4. Dont mess around with name variations.

5. p/p do not see the name on the bank account providing you never let them take money from it by DD or using it for instant payment. Thats what prepaid cards are for.


Summary: You've still got a lot of work to do but the basic foundation is there.

Now it is vital you put the right pieces into it.

Righto - Have I messed up here myself folks.

I verified my paypal account with bank and ID verification, but I agreed to the DD mandate - so have I stuffed myself?

edit - no money in account as yet, no money transferred in either direction as yet.

Will they now see the actual name on the bank account?

I dont remember the guide saying not to sign up to DD...I need to check.

Can anyone confirm if I have fluffed this account already?

Thanks,

Global.

crafty1 07-08-2012 05:50 PM

You have to agree to the DD mandate and PP will send two small deposits to your bank.
This will take 2 - 3 days and once you have the deposits then use it to verify your PP acct.

They won't see your details when sending the two small deposits but make sure after the verification PP don't take funds from your bank.

Global 07-08-2012 05:53 PM

So thats it - im still stealth so far?

Thanks Crafty1, sitting here about to pass a chicken lol...

crafty1 07-08-2012 06:39 PM

Yes that's just a small part of it.

The guide will explain a lot you need to know........

rsot 07-09-2012 12:11 PM

My god what a thread - Entro pay is NOT a bank - it's a credit card which will CONFIRM your pp.

To VERIFY your pp, you need a bank account.

OP has the stealth guide?

mirus 07-09-2012 12:22 PM

Do instead of taking money from my banl they Will be tàking from my crédit card?

they_screwed_me_too 07-09-2012 12:42 PM

it needs saying

so ill say it

this poster has made many posts asking for assistance, hes "read" the stealth book 3 times

doesnt listen to authoritative advice (given on many occasions over many different)

i think the OP may be a joker who is extracting the urine

just MY opinion

if im wrong i apologize

BUT come on

READ or HEED partner

mirus 07-09-2012 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by they_screwed_me_too (Post 357974)
it needs saying

so ill say it

this poster has made many posts asking for assistance, hes "read" the stealth book 3 times

doesnt listen to authoritative advice (given on many occasions over many different)

i think the OP may be a joker who is extracting the urine

just MY opinion

if im wrong i apologize

BUT come on

READ or HEED partner

Mate get off my back please!

Do you know how stresful life has been for me over the last few days without my Paypal account? There haven't been much worse days than this!

If you actually read the above you will see I stated that I have understood the majority of it, I'm just having difficulties grasping the credit card/bank account parts.

Ir your not going to help and assist me then that's fine, but do not attempt to reduce the help others can provide for me by posting so much nonsense.

What do you think everyone can pick up this type of thing instantly?
Just stop being so stupid and help newbies like myself!

they_screwed_me_too 07-09-2012 01:20 PM

im not the first to become slightly frustrated by this

i ....as others have have tried to help you

but you seem to be asking the same questions over and over again even after they have been answered by educated and experienced people

i know probably more than anyone on here how just losing an ebay/PP account can affect someones whole life TRUST ME

rsot and noneother are about as good advice as your going to get, they wouldnt tell you wrong

im not on your back and definitely not stupid

please read the stealth book and digest, in it is all the basics you need to know

use the search function on here for any tweaks and then if you need a little guidance just ask

we are ALL here to help

:focus:

mirus 07-09-2012 01:27 PM

Tbh my ebay stealth password won't sign in Today I tried contacting Mr aspkin but he is not responding!

How do I Go about this please?

slapped 07-09-2012 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirus (Post 357985)
Mate get off my back please!

Do you know how stresful life has been for me over the last few days without my Paypal account? There haven't been much worse days than this!

If you actually read the above you will see I stated that I have understood the majority of it, I'm just having difficulties grasping the credit card/bank account parts.

Ir your not going to help and assist me then that's fine, but do not attempt to reduce the help others can provide for me by posting so much nonsense.

What do you think everyone can pick up this type of thing instantly?
Just stop being so stupid and help newbies like myself!


In my first Post (#20) I told you to SLOW Down and READ the Stealth Guide again. Reading the Guide 3 Times and UNDERSTANDING what it says are 2 different things. What you are Posting about is the SIMPLEST part of Stealth, If you cannot understand that, well, then you have NO HOPE.

After you read the Guide SLOWLY, if you do NOT understand it I would suggest you get yourself checked for Dyslexia

SUVE 07-09-2012 01:37 PM

Op, I do not wish to add to your difficulties, but I would read & re-read this thread a few times until it makes sense to you;as your questions & counter questions have been given credible & reliable answers a few times.

oompaloompa 07-09-2012 01:38 PM

why are you being mean, stop picking on newbies...

you are setting up your paypal and ebay, same as your original one. only difference is you are staying unlinked, eg everything new.

the reason you need a prepaid card, eg. like entropay, is because you can use any address or change the address on the card.

Also you can buy a vcc on the forum for around £13, however this will verify only, you cannot fund pay fees with it, so the fees would need to come out of your balance, as you do not want it to come from your bank, as they can see bank name if funds are uploaded.

Your real bank card is registered to your address and therefore AVS prevents it from being added.


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