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king123 08-11-2012 11:15 AM

21 day hold :( Help
 
Hello people, is there anyway to remove the 21 day hold from my paypal account. Been running for around 6 months and i have 30 positive feedback on ebay, no negative.

I want to dropship, but its very hard to do when i have to wait 21 days for the buyers money to come thru.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

JJGold 08-11-2012 11:20 AM

Just keep the DSR's up and it will get removed. I just had 2 removed after 9 months and 50+ feedback each.

MM78 08-11-2012 02:00 PM

Unfortunately Paypal decides on their own when to remove 21 day holds. Just keep selling and keep your DSR's up.

For Dropshipping its very difficult to do with 21 day holds. I hope you have a solid drop-shipper and know all the risk that follow drop-shipping.

mirus 08-12-2012 04:44 PM

Is there anyway around this like sending money to another paypal account that is not attatched to ebay in any way?

GreenBean 08-12-2012 07:52 PM

@mirus

Stop getting desperate. paypal puts holds on off ebay transactions too.

Learn to work paypal.... it takes time. But that's what needs to be done.

:ballchain:

mirus 08-12-2012 11:06 PM

I just want to know of different ways to have money available in Paypal accounts quicker. 21 day hold = satans device!

diamonda 08-13-2012 10:48 AM

^^ There really isn't any further to what's been said. If you really can't wait the 21 days or till the buyer leaves good feedback to release the funds, you can email paypal with your tracking info relating to that transaction.

Say "tracking info is confirming this item was delivered on date xx, please release the funds" They will reply either doing so or giving you a reason why they won't.

rsot 08-13-2012 11:58 AM

Sometimes you have to discover means for yourself - experiment, trial and error...you have to build rep with pp.

Elijah 08-13-2012 12:53 PM

@ diamonda


To be honest, I woiuld be to scared to do that. I don't want PayPal to have an excuse to scrutinise my account manually and then find an excuse to limit me.

rsot 08-13-2012 01:17 PM

I would agree with Elijah on this - why draw more attention?

Quote:


21 day hold = satans device!
Not really - if you provide solid customer service, you have to wait is all. The reason this is done a lot is because of quickscam artists who want to get money out.

If you don't like it...get your customers to pay via other ways.

mirus 08-13-2012 01:22 PM

How about asking them to send Money personally through pp? Has anyone ever tried this

they_screwed_me_too 08-13-2012 01:26 PM

is this a case of needing the cash quickly to buy the stock you are selling but havent actually got ?

mirus 08-13-2012 02:25 PM

Pretty much

they_screwed_me_too 08-13-2012 02:42 PM

i figured so

its a rock/hard place situation

not a good place to be

sell some stuff youve got (personal stuff even) get some money in to cover the stock you sell

once your rolling it will become easier i promise

mirus 08-13-2012 03:16 PM

Do you or anyone else think its worth asking the buyer to send the money personally via Paypal?

Stigger 08-13-2012 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirus (Post 367619)
Do you or anyone else think its worth asking the buyer to send the money personally via Paypal?

you can if you want, personally i wouldn't.

GrannyT 08-13-2012 03:27 PM

No it isn't - you may get away with it once or twice but Paypal are not idiots - I suggest you don't treat them as idiots

Stigger 08-13-2012 03:30 PM

but the account he has is not going to last long anyway :surrender:

mirus 08-13-2012 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TizWoz (Post 367627)
but the account he has is not going to last long anyway :surrender:

Thanks a lot pal

GrannyT 08-13-2012 03:47 PM

@mirus

TizWoz may not be subtle but he's telling it to you how it is.

What you choose to do with that is entirely up to you of course

diamonda 08-13-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijah (Post 367582)
To be honest, I woiuld be to scared to do that. I don't want PayPal to have an excuse to scrutinise my account manually and then find an excuse to limit me.

Agree overall, but the OP sounds desperate "satans device" etc lol, so was offering the only alternative not yet mentioned, that does work. Like the OP, I was in the rock/hard place 'they_screwed_me_over_too' described as well, hence doing this once and getting a few payments released, but I agree it does draw more scrutiny so should be a card played rarely in times of desperation! :FF:

Stigger 08-13-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirus (Post 367635)
Thanks a lot pal

Ah you have heard something at last.

Sorry if you don't like what i say but its about time someone said it.

what i mean is you don't seem to listen to most of the advise given to you and it's a waste of peoples time.

You really need to slow down. there is no rushing things,.
if you rush with eby and pp i will guarantee one thing closed accounts. its like a job you usually get better the longer you have been doing it.

thats how you learn the tricks of this trade. even if people do have answers to some of the stuff you ask, there not just going to give it up.

hercheys 08-13-2012 04:30 PM

Well you should understand the limitations are put there for a reason, (scamm artist) really much a price we all have to pay for someone else.

Just place tracking information and keep in communication with the buyer at all times and days, and always let them know were you are with their orders.

If you do this, money will be lifted in 7 days after the system verifies the delivery confirmation of the order. All you have to do is wait and keep a good track record and wait some more. :brushteeth:, unitl you die :rip:, to all credit card processors you will be a risk, your only allowed <1% chargeback per visa and mastercard policy rules in place for Acquiring banks. therefore, they pass those fines to us for having to happened in the first place and thats what they are avoiding.

Tip: never email or call paypal with a stealth account.

GreenBean 08-13-2012 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirus (Post 367619)
Do you or anyone else think its worth asking the buyer to send the money personally via Paypal?

Satan is getting to you :boink:


You appear to have a account that has little to no credibility with paypal.

You have to change that.


I will go on saying this until the message sinks in..........

learn to use paypal, NOT have them use you.

Part of the problem here is you have not as much said a thing about the accounts, their age, the amount of feedback.

But you moan. Stop that. You are defeating yourself.

Re-read the above in bold type..... apply that to start getting around the holds. This should have been happening since the 1st sale. Not the 2nd or 3rd or more.

When you made your FIRST SALE, you should have been making sure the monies were coming to you.

That's the paypal game. Outfox them. Or do not use them

:pop2:

rsot 08-14-2012 11:46 AM

@mirus, best to keep buying pp account SEPARATE from selling pp account otherwise if pp feels you are doing dropshipping or purchasing stock after...you are in BIG problems.

they_screwed_me_too 08-14-2012 12:51 PM

mirus

learn to use paypal, NOT have them use you :pound:

Elijah 08-14-2012 12:53 PM

Does somebody here really dislike it when I quote a post? I have noticed a few where quotes were removed, and the post made no sense after that...

they_screwed_me_too 08-14-2012 12:58 PM

not me

i actually think your a reasonable chap :D

GrannyT 08-14-2012 01:38 PM

Seems like a nice enough chap to me ;)

they_screwed_me_too 08-14-2012 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrannyT (Post 367903)
Seems like a nice enough chap to me ;)

:p
in small doses GT though

rsot 08-14-2012 03:22 PM

@Elijah, mods do remove posts randomly - happens to all of us.

J1mgg 08-14-2012 03:32 PM

I am also in a similar situation, running out of stock but three of my 4 accounts have this 21 day limit.

90% of the time I add the tracking number to PayPal as I send all items by recorded delivery. I have 2 accounts with 20 feedback, one with 10 and the last with 4.

The only PayPal doesn't have the limit was the one I bought, the other 3 were made by me so I must of done something wrong. 2 have bank and a vcc linked, the other one just a vcc.

Any help appreciated thanks

Stigger 08-15-2012 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elijah (Post 367884)
Does somebody here really dislike it when I quote a post? I have noticed a few where quotes were removed, and the post made no sense after that...


i reckon i have spent more time writing posts that have been removed than i have for ones that have not .

GreenBean 08-15-2012 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by they_screwed_me_too (Post 367882)
mirus

learn to use paypal, NOT have them use you :pound:

Good innit

:boink:

cass 08-16-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hercheys (Post 367671)
Tip: never email or call paypal with a stealth account.

I dont know if thats a good tip? if you know ALL the stealth info and your methods solid its just as if it was a real account to them no?

mirus 08-16-2012 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TizWoz (Post 367647)
Ah you have heard something at last.

Sorry if you don't like what i say but its about time someone said it.

what i mean is you don't seem to listen to most of the advise given to you and it's a waste of peoples time.

You really need to slow down. there is no rushing things,.
if you rush with eby and pp i will guarantee one thing closed accounts. its like a job you usually get better the longer you have been doing it.

thats how you learn the tricks of this trade. even if people do have answers to some of the stuff you ask, there not just going to give it up.

Lol I don't want to argue with you!

I do listen and have always listened to the advice people have given me on this forum, the problem in the past was I heard various things from different sources, forums, threads even youtube. That was the past now I soley seek all assistance on this forum and this forum only.

Thanks

GreenBean 08-16-2012 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mirus (Post 368509)
Lol I don't want to argue with you!

I do listen and have always listened to the advice people have given me on this forum, the problem in the past was I heard various things from different sources, forums, threads even youtube. That was the past now I soley seek all assistance on this forum and this forum only.

Thanks

That damn Satan.....

Be free of this, mirus.

ONLY this forum to beat ebay/paypal, only HERE. :peace:

mirus 08-16-2012 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean™ (Post 367730)
Satan is getting to you :boink:


You appear to have a account that has little to no credibility with paypal.

You have to change that.


I will go on saying this until the message sinks in..........

learn to use paypal, NOT have them use you.

Part of the problem here is you have not as much said a thing about the accounts, their age, the amount of feedback.

But you moan. Stop that. You are defeating yourself.

Re-read the above in bold type..... apply that to start getting around the holds. This should have been happening since the 1st sale. Not the 2nd or 3rd or more.

When you made your FIRST SALE, you should have been making sure the monies were coming to you.

That's the paypal game. Outfox them. Or do not use them

:pop2:

I have a fairly new account been open for just under a month and have only 6 feedbacks.

I got past the 100 item limit thing but I am still limited in the amount of ads I can make from my specialist current category 'mp3 players'
But strangely I can list many ads in all the other categories! Anyone experienced this?

As for the 21 day hold I guess I'll just have to put up with it for now.

Sometimes you have to kiss ass beforeyou kick it!

slim jim 08-16-2012 09:09 PM

mirus- there are not just account limits but category limits. from what i have read these can not be overcome so easily

Mrkashmir 08-29-2012 07:28 PM

some good advice here. im on the 21 day hold too and its quite annoying.

id just like to say be patient ! this is important in the longtern rather you in the short term rushing and taking a step that will fook your account up forever.

play it safe is where im getting at yeh.


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