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Got the invite for managed payments today from ebay
 

So, I finally got the invite for managed payments ( Ayden).
I have questions. I know I want to do this but my concerns are:
Will I not be able to sale on eBay until I am approved for Ayden managed payments?
If I can not sale while getting my approval, how long does it take?
I generally have sales daily. How long before I will see payments hit my bank?
Currently I use instant transfer from PayPal, and normally it is received right away. However from time to time I may get the delay for review on withdraws.
Is obtaining approval and providing documents simple to do. It will be all my real info.
My address on id tho is different than actual address now.
The address on id card is same address as from my suspended account. Will I have issued with this?
That's all I can think of at the moment.
Thanks everyone in advance for help answering my questions

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Well got signed up last night. Nothing has been asked for yet. I had to give social security number and bank account. I had a sale and it shows me payment is processing but not available just yet. I know it will take longer for withdraw than PayPal was

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A full ssn? Did they give you other options or specifically ssn?

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It asked for individual or business and I put individual and had to put full social security number. Also had to add bank account to get paid and it said name on account must match bank account. It also stated documents may be requested to confirm identity. As of now I have not had to show any documents.

I had sales and it took less than 24 hours for the processing of first payment.
It went to available payout last night and when I checked this morning it had moved to payout and was sent to bank.

I received an email from eBay stating they had done payout and expect it in 3 to 4 days.
I did notice it shows sales processing and also in that record of sales there is also holds. Mine was processing. Not sure if the hold is used for new eBay sellers like PayPal uses at eBay's request for new accounts. Luckily no hold as eBay account is over a yr old.

No issues with lack of sales as sales have remained steady.
So far pleased. Very easy to transition.

This is real account not stealth. Have been previously banned in eBay and PayPal about 5 years ago.

Glad its all done well going through because just recently PayPal started asking for tax info.

When I got invite it, when I clicked to start it kept saying I couldn't do managed payment until I got the invite, however I did get invite.
I finally realized I had to go in and remove global shipping in My listings and gave it about 15 min and tried to sign up for managed payments and it let me at that time.
Currently global shipping is not available and any global shipping orders have to go through PayPal.

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why guys. Why do you want to do this.

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Looks like once Managed Payments is fully implemented, it will be the end of "stealth" accounts as we know it. I'm pretty sure identity verification is employed, and they are also not allowing non matching names for the bank.

Unless PayPal continues to be an option for sellers past 2023, this doesn't look too good.

Of course, one could always choose the corp (LLC) route to create the account, but that's not "stealth", either.

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This actually was my best move. Lately PayPal had been asking for tax documents.

Money from sales were being held more frequently.
Funds were bring held by PayPal when transferring to bank ( the security reviews).
At times a buyers fund was held until one day after delivery. PayPal message suggested high risk item. Sold same items for over a year but now they become associated with high risk.
This move was a good thing as with how my account was going. I felt it was not going to hold up much longer. I bowed out before getting limited or permantely limited.
It may not be for every seller but it is right for me.

As of now no issues with managed payments. I received today sales from Thursday Friday and Saturday. Yes not as fast as PayPal but I feel safer with eBay managed payments.

One day I may realize it was a mistake for joining the managed payments instead of waiting to be forced into jt. But for now I am good and pleased.

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I think you did the right thing OP. I've been in for a couple of months now. It was really slow at first but now that Paypal has been added as a payment option, it's starting to pick up. If I put some work into that account I could probably bring it up to the same sales level as my eb/PP accounts.

One thing I'd like to point out since you're in - refunds are buggy AF in managed payments, so be careful. Always check to see if you have any cancellation requests before printing labels for the day, because if you print the label while the buyer had a cancellation request open, you'll lose the ability to cancel the order (always been that way) AND you lose the ability to refund the buyer (hasn't always been that way). I had to call eBay about this and they told me I would have to void my shipping label, then have the buyer open an INR case in a week to get their refund. That was the only way they could come up with for me when I asked. :confused:

I chose the business account option (unlike OP who chose to register as an individual). Instead of being asked for my full SSN, I was asked for my full EIN and my full SSN. :shocked:

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and you think, ebay, of all companies, is going to treat you nicer? That they aren't under the same Tax regulations, that paypal is, and won't require tax info from you? One day when you realize the mistake, ebay won't actually let you switch back to paypal. That's one of the downfalls of this. YOu can't just try it. Once you sign up, THAT IS IT.

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I like Manged Payments. It is not like they reinvested the wheel here. One of the worlds largest payment processors and also, one of the most fair is behind Manged Payments.

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It is because they could not add a SS number to the paypal account.....

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eBay thus far, with operating this account has been nice to me and have been helpful.
I would only expect to see Ebay not be nice in the instance I screw my account up.

I had a previous account and lost it 5 yrs. I gave PayPal my tax info then and therefore with this new account I was unable to provide PayPal with my tax info. At least with social security number. I also applied and received an ein to upload to paypal to complete there request of tax info. Even after providing the ein, I was was having more holds till delivery and the security reviews when trying to transfer my PayPal balance to my bank.
I know they are becoming more strict and no longer wanted to worry what would be next.

Of course I am aware they share the same tax regulations. I gave ebay managed payments my social security number for the tax info. However, I am unsure why you think I would believe that I thought I would not have to provide the tax info.

I also don't know why you think I would try to bow out and try to get out of managed payments when I see I made a mistake and want to go back to PayPal. I am very aware I can't go back and change my mind. Thus far I don't see a reason to want to deal with PayPal again. I don't use stealth and if my account got limited I would no longer have my online business. I would lose money and if I had to go stealth I could risk linkage of some kind and lose more money if that got limited. So right now managed payments sounds pretty sweet to me.

Are you in managed payments? They are seeming to work seamlessly for me. One day all eBay sellers will be in managed payments.

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Exactly Yankee!

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All eBay sellers will progressively be required to transition to managed payments in the coming months.

We may not have much time left.

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One thing that have not heard anything about is how refunds/returns will be processed under Managed Payments?

With PayPal if you didn't have funds in your account, your PP balance would go into the negative to cover those refunds/claims.

How will this be done under Managed Payaments? Will the money be pulled out of your bank account? if so, will this be done as soon as a return/claim/dispute comes in? Is there any control over this?

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1 thing I can say for sure - sellers have very little control over refunds in managed payments so far. I couldn't even refund a buyer by cancelling the order last week. eBay instructed me to leave the order unfilled, tell the buyer to open an INR case, and refund them that way.

A refund would only be pulled from your bank account if you haven't had enough sales that day to cover the refund. It works like a merchant account. You have a rolling balance of all payments received that settles daily at the end of the day. If you send any refunds during the day they come from your rolling balance of collected payments by default. If you haven't taken in enough payments to cover the refund then I'm sure eBay will dip into your bank account.

I can't answer the 2nd part of the question, but I assume the refund wouldn't be pulled until the case has been resolved by the seller or eBay. I say that because they're now giving us the option to send partial refunds on returns. So it wouldn't make sense for them to pull the full refund as soon as a request is open.

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wth... do we receive any sort of strike for that? Seems like a generic azz solution!

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I'm guessing not since I refunded almost immediately after he opened the case. It's only a defect if eBay has to get involved, right?

Still, I'm sure it could kill an account if you had to do that 100 times in a week for some unforeseen reason. I told the eBay rep in the chat "eBay still has a lot of work to do with managed payments, don't they?" and the lady didn't respond. They probably know what they're doing.

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When the hell did they enable eBay chat for us? :shocked:

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I unno. It just shows up as an option in the sidebar in seller hub sometimes. :noidea:

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Umm, no. Ebay is NOT a fan of INR cases. That was the main reason I got my account restricted. Because of INR cases. Mainly international buyers, that couldn't bother to wait, and ebay with their absurd shipping estimates.

Ebay forcing sellers to do INR cases, is insane. But that's ebay for you.

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Ebay estimated the delivery date for overseas shipment,is this not your case?
if you find it not to be acceptable in y our case,you will have to use a different shipper or shipping method.
or block some countries or regions which take too long to clear customs or delivery,eg Brazil ,Russia,India,Africa

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I'll be damn. I thought it was only for the UK peeps, or whoever.

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I talked about this two years ago and people thought I was full of it :) Only some accounts have chat and not all the time. I loved it. Non of my accounts have chat currently. :(

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Next best thing to chat... but takes a day is twitter.... Just have your name/email and zipcode . They can do everything via twitter. escalate cases, appeal cases etc.. I even lift restrictions on new accounts, by contacting them.Telling them i was immediately suspended i'd like to appeal., they'll ask what you're selling etc.. Probably ruined twitter method now :(

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nope i lost an account because i would just refund right away
that counts as a strike against your seller performance
so now i have to ask ebay to get involved everytime

" buyer purchased by mistake, please refund buyer but dont want this to effect my seller performance"

been doing this for the last 3-4 months and my account health has been improving.

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wait, what? It wouldn't count as a strike. It would only be internal, and having ebay step in, actually makes you look worse. Purchased by mistake? What type of case are you talking about exactly?

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Well, NOW I think phaz is full of it! :lol:

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Hi
By chance are you already enrolled eBay managed payment?
If so, in eBay for there is a thread for sellers that have managed payments.
It explains and provides info for people with managed payments. Take a look into it.
If not, I can explain some of how I am understanding it to be.
When eBay managed payments does my payout, the payout is exact amount of sale. No eBay fees or managed payment fees deducted. Managed payment fees will be added to our monthly invoice. When a refund occurs, I think once seller has item back then eBay will add that cost to the monthly sellers invoice but refund customer promptly after proof of return buyer.
This is my understanding of returns.

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At the present time, none of my accounts are eligible for enrollment in Managed Payments, at least not yet. A number of sellers on this forum have already received the invite and gone through the process. I'm reading these experiences just as you are doing to get an idea of how to approach it when we are all forced to come to terms with it as eBay sellers.

There is the question of course of how refunds and cases would be handled, and I feel the best answer came from Phaz in this thread. That seems like the most logical way for it to work. I would expect eBay's Managed Payments to work much like a typical merchant account would as far as handing cases, chargebacks, and the like.

There is still the question about if eBay will allow mismatching names for bank accounts, or that's simply going to be a no-go.

Another question I am particularly interested in has to do with the way corps/LLC's would be checked and verified. Will they only check documents, or actually confirm the business name with the EIN/IRS as PayPal does? I suspect they will based on how things typically work with these types of merchant processors I have personal experience in using.

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I can tell you first hand. i have 1 account i opted in, the name on the ebay account does NOT match the bank account, and i've been receiving payments for probably 1.5 months now. The rumors are they ask at 4k and 10k for proof of ownership. bank statement/canceled check. But, that's still not confirmed at any specific threshold. IMO.
As i said previously i've never know a merchant able to see the name on the bank account before. Paypal can't.

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I am in managed payments. Mine do match but if I recall I read it had to match. On the eBay managed payment forum I read they had to match. Another on the forum stated that x amount of refunds were added to the invoice. That's where I got that info.
As far as business documents LLC ein etc not sure what they will ask for. All I done was add social but with stealth I am aware of ein and LLC being a question with stealth. I have not read on there forum yet about ein or LLC as of yet and how that's going to work

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Paypal does. The exact moment they take back the micro-deposit out of your account, the name is shown. They just don't care. At THAT time.

When your account gets limited, though... and the 180 days are up, and you need to withdraw it.... all of a sudden it becomes relevant lol

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You are right on that. Several years ago my son had an eBay and PayPal account and was limited because he was using his girlfriend's bank.
It does seem tho some is overlooked and others are not.
I have seen them limit when bank name doesn't match PayPal and have seen plenty that don't match and do fine. At least until bots begin to catch things for a real person to take a closer look.

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I have an ebay business account that has all of my LLC info on it. If and when I go to managed payments, from what everyone is saying they will want my SSN and my EIN? My LLC is set up as a partnership, not an individual LLC. I was told a couple of years ago that as long as it was a partnership that only an EIN would be required. Any thoughts?

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I tried to roll in eBay managed payment and use my LLC partnership info, when it ask for SSN, I chat with eBay rep, he told me to use EIN instead. it went thru till confirm, but I stop there because at the time I am not sure if I could go back to paypal if eBay managed paymet failed. Now I know there is no turning back to paypal, I am still doing investigation and waiting.

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I used my social and not ein as sole proprietor
I did get an ein as PayPal sent me the notice to provide tax info.
Due to previously banned account I could not add social so applied for ein.
At that time I got the invite from eBay managed payments and I did not have to use my ein but did use my social

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There are tallks just talks that Paypal will try to come up with a bank routing number and account number for each Paypal member so we can transfer our MP fund to our Paypal account.
But there is no way to accept payment direct on Ebay without MP account once Ebay MP is official for all

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if you cancel an order on ebay there are 3 choices
out of stock (strike)
buyer cancel (this is ok)
something wrong with address (this is ok)

if buyer wants to cancel order before you ship this is also ok.

if buyer wants to start a return... they usually lie and pick the item is not as described or not delivered.

then if you agree to the buyers reasoning for the return and refund them... this will count as a strike. (this is bad)

so I always ask ebay to step in since the according to ebay if ebay finds the case in the buyers favor they will refund the buyer and strike my account which if i just refunded the buyer anyways the worst case would have already happened.

didnt know this before and i lost an account due to this. I was also just agreeing w/ buyers and sending refund right away. (big mistake) lol

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It's not just talk. They are doing it, so that they can still do paypal capital loans.