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yellowprintdirect 10-20-2019 06:34 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leighanns520 (Post 1042599)
I do believe if it's a business account and using business name an ein is used and they ask for an owner name and social security number.
At 4000 I had to update info as my bank account and eBay account was not matching. I had to add my middle initial as it was on bank but not eBay. I also uploaded bank statement. Just not having middle initial on one and nit the other flagged my account for me to fix it so they both matched. Bank statement was asked for if the current name on eBay and bank was correct. I edited it and added middle initial. I went ahead and uploaded bank statement at that time as well. Everything was cleared through in just a couple of hours and was good to go once again

So as my bank & eBay completely don’t match the only way around it is to open up a business account under my eBay’s business & stealth address ? And make the eBay account into a limited company. That way adyen I assume will look to match the business name & address to the business bank.

rsot 10-20-2019 08:24 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowprintdirect (Post 1042658)
So as my bank & eBay completely don’t match the only way around it is to open up a business account under my eBay’s business & stealth address ? And make the eBay account into a limited company. That way adyen I assume will look to match the business name & address to the business bank.

My bank and ebay don't match up usually - what do you mean?

phaz0rz 10-20-2019 09:11 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1042678)
My bank and ebay don't match up usually - what do you mean?


It's different in Managed Payments than it is with eB/PP.

Lucynda 10-20-2019 05:01 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowprintdirect (Post 1042658)
So as my bank & eBay completely don’t match the only way around it is to open up a business account under my eBay’s business & stealth address ? And make the eBay account into a limited company. That way adyen I assume will look to match the business name & address to the business bank.

If others have been unsuccessful adding a bank account that doesn't match then that would be your only option. My LLC costs me 150 a year per LLC, but my business checking was free.

yellowprintdirect 10-20-2019 08:07 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucynda (Post 1042788)
If others have been unsuccessful adding a bank account that doesn't match then that would be your only option. My LLC costs me 150 a year per LLC, but my business checking was free.

Hope there’s another work around as I have 6 accounts it’s £150 per limited company setup fee here in uk! Plus my accountant will prob want more money now coz there will be 6 businesses to look after instead of one big one.

HurricaneHuntr 10-25-2019 04:28 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowprintdirect (Post 1042808)
Hope there’s another work around as I have 6 accounts it’s £150 per limited company setup fee here in uk! Plus my accountant will prob want more money now coz there will be 6 businesses to look after instead of one big one.

Yup. i said this earlier this year on here... doing all those LLC's is going to cost a lot. Each has a audit risk, each has a state sales tax to file, each has a quarterly report to file, each has to make estimated tax payments. It's not feasible unless you're making a 200k + a year. The solution is to get them to the threshold they allow before requesting a real working EIN/SSN that matches... And then dump it.. Or Provide the data and don't go over 20k to save the headaches of being forced to file on each one. Most of us legit people do this already with paypal. We don't reach 20k, but still pay all of our taxes. At least i do. I just combine all the sales in 1 quickbook company

Lucynda 11-04-2019 03:14 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
I didn't have to file state sales tax and I don't have to file a quarterly report. I File my taxes at the end of the year just like I did before, but more stuff to include now... Maybe that's just my area.

robbcarpdm 12-09-2019 10:52 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
I had one account that I do coupons in...MP will NOT allow you sell coupons at all.

They then Opted me out of Managed payments.....so it seems you can Opt out of MP as an option.

So perhaps they will make it look like you have to go managed payments but in the end will allow us to use Paypal.

Most people will take path of least resistence and they will scoop up a lot but maybe leave some for Paypal in the end?

ebayStlealth300 12-12-2019 02:50 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Yes correct, you can always go back to paypal if your not happy with MP.

yellowprintdirect 12-12-2019 10:58 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebayStlealth300 (Post 1054758)
Yes correct, you can always go back to paypal if your not happy with MP.

This could be huge!!! If proven correct when it’s fully enforced!!

landman210 12-12-2019 04:00 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
ok so what exactly is the clear answer on providing SSN? I've looked through all of this and it's still unclear. Obviously, if you have a business bank account then EIN is good. I get that but if you dont and you have multiple accounts do you have to provide a Valid SSN or not....reading everything it still seems unclear to me anyway..lol

So does anyone have a definitive answer on the SSN issue. Is it required? And other than business account (which some posts still say they need owner SSN), what is the definitive answer on providing SSN for seperate accounts? Stop before $4K? Burn account all together when SSN is requested? What?????

I'm about to open several new accounts, so a clarification would be great.

leighanns520 12-12-2019 07:43 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by landman210 (Post 1054937)
ok so what exactly is the clear answer on providing SSN? I've looked through all of this and it's still unclear. Obviously, if you have a business bank account then EIN is good. I get that but if you dont and you have multiple accounts do you have to provide a Valid SSN or not....reading everything it still seems unclear to me anyway..lol

So does anyone have a definitive answer on the SSN issue. Is it required? And other than business account (which some posts still say they need owner SSN), what is the definitive answer on providing SSN for seperate accounts? Stop before $4K? Burn account all together when SSN is requested? What?????

I'm about to open several new accounts, so a clarification would be great.

I have one account and on managed payments. When I signed up for the managed payments I had to provide a social security number. I used all real info and all was accepted
Right away into managed payments.
Once I hit 4 thousand I was requested to update bank info, and make sure names matched on eBay and bank. Had to add middle initial as that was how my bank account was set up. Also uploaded bank statement.
This was the only request and now at over 17 thousand in sales nothing else has been requested.
On the eBay managed payment forum done sellers mentioned they had to update info etc at 4 thousand and again around 10 thousand.
As of now I haven't received another request.
When setting up more accounts I can't help you or make any suggestions.
This is just my experience with real info account.

landman210 12-12-2019 11:21 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
OK thanks I am clear on the 1 account.
Still wanting clarification on multiple accounts.
Thanks

ebayStlealth300 12-13-2019 12:01 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowprintdirect (Post 1054875)
This could be huge!!! If proven correct when it’s fully enforced!!

Yes ebay does not want to lose a seller completely if a seller is not happy with Mp.

ebayStlealth300 12-13-2019 12:03 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowprintdirect (Post 1054875)
This could be huge!!! If proven correct when it’s fully enforced!!

Yes ebay does not want to lose a seller completely if a seller is not happy with Mp.

agent006140 12-14-2019 04:48 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
There are mega stores on EBay,how do they handle this SSN issue?
USPS is known to sell on Ebay,dont tell me they need SSN/
And BBY sells on EBAY too,along with many small and medium size retailers and distributors and manufacturers.

JackedYoshi 01-03-2020 11:11 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by landman210 (Post 1054937)
ok so what exactly is the clear answer on providing SSN? I've looked through all of this and it's still unclear. Obviously, if you have a business bank account then EIN is good. I get that but if you dont and you have multiple accounts do you have to provide a Valid SSN or not....reading everything it still seems unclear to me anyway..lol

So does anyone have a definitive answer on the SSN issue. Is it required? And other than business account (which some posts still say they need owner SSN), what is the definitive answer on providing SSN for seperate accounts? Stop before $4K? Burn account all together when SSN is requested? What?????

I'm about to open several new accounts, so a clarification would be great.

I too, would like clarification on this.

bootleg.101 01-04-2020 07:08 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by solefoodbk (Post 1042393)
So what are you saying? You can use your real info for management payments and still have stealth name? I don’t understand? If you give social and it’s actually cross checked, it would be a clear red flag for eBay that the names don’t match??

This is what I want to know as well.

agent006140 01-04-2020 07:26 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
well,right now I can sell on Ebay and use another person's paypal account to accept payment,so will this be the same between Ebay and Ayden?

leighanns520 01-04-2020 07:39 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1059342)
well,right now I can sell on Ebay and use another person's paypal account to accept payment,so will this be the same between Ebay and Ayden?

I joined managed payments. Real eBay account and real info for ayden.
While signing up for managed payments after the invite I provided real name, real address, real birthdate and real social security number. Also added bank info that was requested. Sales started going to managed payments that day.
After 4 thousand in sales I received a request to update bank info
I did as asked and had to update my Ayden name given to what was on bank statement.. After completing the request I noticed that on eBay what I had entered to match bank name was now on my eBay account. All I added was my middle initial.
So that tells me that ebay is seeing what info that I provided Ayden.

iamlmfao 01-06-2020 05:45 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leighanns520 (Post 1059343)
I joined managed payments. Real eBay account and real info for ayden.
While signing up for managed payments after the invite I provided real name, real address, real birthdate and real social security number. Also added bank info that was requested. Sales started going to managed payments that day.
After 4 thousand in sales I received a request to update bank info
I did as asked and had to update my Ayden name given to what was on bank statement.. After completing the request I noticed that on eBay what I had entered to match bank name was now on my eBay account. All I added was my middle initial.
So that tells me that ebay is seeing what info that I provided Ayden.

so your saying every single seller on ebay no matter what will be required to give ssn to withdraw money? is this some sick prank from ebay? LOL mercari doesnt even do that

rsot 01-06-2020 05:48 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1059342)
well,right now I can sell on Ebay and use another person's paypal account to accept payment,so will this be the same between Ebay and Ayden?

This is not good practice agent

iamlmfao 01-06-2020 06:08 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1059685)
This is not good practice agent

some stomachs are hungrier than others.

agent006140 01-06-2020 10:03 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
I dont use another person's Paypal account,but every now and then I am asked to sell for someone who has house full of stuff since 1940s,as a dealer I am always interested to see the content,but I sure do not want to collect money using my own Paypal account .

leighanns520 01-06-2020 11:20 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamlmfao (Post 1059683)
so your saying every single seller on ebay no matter what will be required to give ssn to withdraw money? is this some sick prank from ebay? LOL mercari doesnt even do that

I am just saying what I experienced. It will be rougher I am sure with stealth. Mine was real info and the steps I had to go through to be in managed payments.
Not sure what is required for other sellers.

agent006140 01-06-2020 11:31 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
question-Paypal wants our SSN to send 1099K.
With Ayden,does it have to send 1099K ?
if so,it would need our SSN.

leighanns520 01-06-2020 07:23 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1059769)
question-Paypal wants our SSN to send 1099K.
With Ayden,does it have to send 1099K ?
if so,it would need our SSN.

I had an email from ebay that stated PayPal would send 1099
I didn't meet requirements for 1099 from PayPal, but if Adyen funds were added into it I would get a 1099.
It did not say anything about 1099 from Adyen.
I also did not meet requirement for 1099 from Adyen but as I said if Ayden payments and PayPal were tallied together I would have 1099

leighanns520 01-06-2020 07:29 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
This is a screenshot of email I received from eBay on 12/19.
It states I will get a 1099 if eligible on all my eBay sales from PayPal.
As you can read it it does not mention managed payments.

leighanns520 01-06-2020 07:34 PM

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agent006140 01-06-2020 07:46 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
my question is for all who use Ayden,does AYDEN send out 1099k when we meet the threshold?
AZMN,Etsy,Paypal do,I would think SQUARE and Stripe do too.
if you sell 100 transactions with AMZN and 102 with Paypal,neither one will send you 1099K,so it is up to you to report your income.

HurricaneHuntr 01-07-2020 02:32 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
200/20k like all in the USA.

You have to reach both thresholds.

Same thing for walmart/payoneer I had a relative who opened a walmart account for me.. bc for some reason they wouldn't approve me.. no idea why. Anyway, i took him to 19.8k still reported funds in my general ledgers. But, no forms for my friend to deal with :)

Robin Hood of Amazon 02-10-2020 01:25 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Ok that's great for everyone who are using there real names to add there banks to MP. But those that have multiple stealth accounts. What do you do when you get this "We couldn't verify the bank info you provided. Please fix anything that's incorrect. In particular, make sure the name on the bank account matches the legal business name on this eBay account." Do you put your real name that obviously doesn't match up with the stealth name? Does ebay see the info that you give to Ayden?

iamlmfao 02-12-2020 11:09 AM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Robin Hood of Amazon (Post 1068324)
Ok that's great for everyone who are using there real names to add there banks to MP. But those that have multiple stealth accounts. What do you do when you get this "We couldn't verify the bank info you provided. Please fix anything that's incorrect. In particular, make sure the name on the bank account matches the legal business name on this eBay account." Do you put your real name that obviously doesn't match up with the stealth name? Does ebay see the info that you give to Ayden?

just dont go over 4k m8t, its the only solution

leighanns520 02-12-2020 07:27 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
I had to do the request for names to match at 4000 in sales. That's the only time. Mine is real info so no problems.
I haven't been asked for nothing else since and ended very close to 20 grand in sales for 2019.

iamlmfao 02-12-2020 09:11 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leighanns520 (Post 1068914)
I had to do the request for names to match at 4000 in sales. That's the only time. Mine is real info so no problems.
I haven't been asked for nothing else since and ended very close to 20 grand in sales for 2019.

my thing is SSN, will they require everyones ssn to sell?

robjobs 02-13-2020 11:35 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamlmfao (Post 1068941)
my thing is SSN, will they require everyones ssn to sell?

Ein or SSN

leighanns520 02-14-2020 12:56 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamlmfao (Post 1068941)
my thing is SSN, will they require everyones ssn to sell?

They requested mine and I provided it.
I had a previous suspended eBay and paypal with my real info, social and all for PayPal.
I moved to a different state and made new eBay and PayPal and did not give PayPal my social. Again this is with real info. I got the request for tax info and could not provide it to PayPal due to previous suspended account. Around that time I got my invite for mp and signed up. Gave my social and no problems. Mind you, eBay never has social anyway ever.
Now does eBay have my social. I don't know. Ayden does I am assuming and maybe eBay does to now. I don't know the answer to that but I do know that I could not give my info to PayPal but could managed payments

iamlmfao 02-15-2020 01:25 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leighanns520 (Post 1069396)
They requested mine and I provided it.
I had a previous suspended eBay and paypal with my real info, social and all for PayPal.
I moved to a different state and made new eBay and PayPal and did not give PayPal my social. Again this is with real info. I got the request for tax info and could not provide it to PayPal due to previous suspended account. Around that time I got my invite for mp and signed up. Gave my social and no problems. Mind you, eBay never has social anyway ever.
Now does eBay have my social. I don't know. Ayden does I am assuming and maybe eBay does to now. I don't know the answer to that but I do know that I could not give my info to PayPal but could managed payments

whatever informaiton is uploaded through ebay IS SAVED dont be so naive. we will be hear of an ssn breach sooner or later from one of these online sellers just a matter of time.

agent006140 02-15-2020 05:49 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leighanns520 (Post 1069396)
They requested mine and I provided it.
I had a previous suspended eBay and paypal with my real info, social and all for PayPal.
I moved to a different state and made new eBay and PayPal and did not give PayPal my social. Again this is with real info. I got the request for tax info and could not provide it to PayPal due to previous suspended account. Around that time I got my invite for mp and signed up. Gave my social and no problems. Mind you, eBay never has social anyway ever.
Now does eBay have my social. I don't know. Ayden does I am assuming and maybe eBay does to now. I don't know the answer to that but I do know that I could not give my info to PayPal but could managed payments

ayden is not Paypal,what you give Paypal is not shared with Ayden and vice versa.
Ebay does not need our SSN,it expects Paypal or Ayden to send 1099k,but if IRS is auditing your business,it could come to Ebay and ask for your account,
The only one who would and could be asking for both would be IRS and Homeland security /FBI and your state comptroller

leighanns520 02-16-2020 08:39 PM

Re: Lets get a few things straight
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iamlmfao (Post 1069631)
whatever informaiton is uploaded through ebay IS SAVED dont be so naive. we will be hear of an ssn breach sooner or later from one of these online sellers just a matter of time.

eBay never had my social from the suspended account. PayPal did on suspended account, thus, not able to provide it on the account using now.
I did give mp my social. If eBay now has it who knows but managed payments for sure has it now


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