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thepianoman 07-05-2020 09:26 PM

Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Is stealth dead if mp will be required for all accounts later on.

I don't understand why so many are so happy about MP.

phaz0rz 07-06-2020 06:13 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Dead as we know it but new iterations will emerge out of necessity.

Bigblackdog 07-06-2020 06:31 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thepianoman (Post 1104217)
Is stealth dead if mp will be required for all accounts later on.

I don't understand why so many are so happy about MP.

Stealth will change but where there is a will there is a way

I do believe the 'crash & burn' multiple account scenario will be very difficult from now on though - if not impossible

Good stealth accounts are going to cost a fortune - try and buy a stealth Etsy account and you will see what I mean

thepianoman 07-06-2020 05:26 PM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigblackdog (Post 1104294)
Stealth will change but where there is a will there is a way

I do believe the 'crash & burn' multiple account scenario will be very difficult from now on though - if not impossible

Good stealth accounts are going to cost a fortune - try and buy a stealth Etsy account and you will see what I mean

Stealth Etsy was actually already found to be possible merely with just an EIN and business name.

slokor 07-06-2020 10:11 PM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thepianoman (Post 1104409)
Stealth Etsy was actually already found to be possible merely with just an EIN and business name.

Hence what others said above is true.

Bigblackdog 07-07-2020 01:31 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by thepianoman (Post 1104409)
Stealth Etsy was actually already found to be possible merely with just an EIN and business name.

There are of course ways around everything - US methods do not always work elsewhere though

You now need to work to get an Etsy account running and whatever the workaround that is found for Ebay my point about slash and burn accounts remains valid

jmag91 07-07-2020 01:56 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Did some googling but not totally understanding MP and why it will be the end of stealth. Can anyone help explain it to me?

thepianoman 07-08-2020 04:50 PM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jmag91 (Post 1104443)
Did some googling but not totally understanding MP and why it will be the end of stealth. Can anyone help explain it to me?

SSN required and possible docs.

DejaVoo 07-09-2020 06:15 PM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1104291)
Dead as we know it but new iterations will emerge out of necessity.

This is what I'm looking forward to ⬆️

slokor 07-09-2020 11:06 PM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
I know for a fact now that the MP registration system can be overcome and that stealth registration is possible.
I have a long time customer who has already signed up several of the stealth accounts he purchased from me years ago. He showed me the screenshots of the approval page - hes all setup and ready for when they activate the system later this month.
Enough with all the doom and gloom misinformation already.

nyc 07-10-2020 08:19 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 1105004)
I know for a fact now that the MP registration system can be overcome and that stealth registration is possible.
I have a long time customer who has already signed up several of the stealth accounts he purchased from me years ago. He showed me the screenshots of the approval page - hes all setup and ready for when they activate the system later this month.
Enough with all the doom and gloom misinformation already.

Can you show us the screenshots too?

prodigyace 07-10-2020 09:39 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nyc (Post 1105071)
Can you show us the screenshots too?

I don't think he should post them on this open forum.

slokor 07-10-2020 10:26 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1105016)
You don’t know for a fact, you’re repeating third party hearsay. ‘Overcome’ means nothing more than add a bank account which is duly accepted.

..... and that’s the part stealthers already know and are struggling to address.

Nobody is posting misinformation, but some are posting hearsay. :rolleyes:
Folk have a right to sense doom and gloom, they have seen no evidence of how they will negotiate MP with stealth info. Some can’t even create a bank account, so they’re definitely stuffed.

I understand account sellers want to kid folk everything will be fine, but the reality is simple. As you’re unwilling (or unable) to provide proof then folk will rightly speculate and be understandably concerned.

Actually it is not hearsay.
If I heard it from someone else who heard it from another id agree with you.
But in this case I spoke with a trusted customer who showed me the process step by step along with screenshots for each one of those steps and showed me his success doing it.
Yes MP can be overcome. That's a fact.

warnka1 07-10-2020 10:34 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 

JamesNorth101 07-10-2020 11:11 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
@tinsoldier - Its like you woke up on the wrong side the the bed at the start of 2020 and havn't gone back to bed since.

slokor 07-10-2020 11:21 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tinsoldier (Post 1105092)
It's hearesay for us though.

In any event, of course MP can be overcome, that much is clear. You simply need to supply a bank account which passes their requirements and/or accompanying documents to validate - real or creative. That's what your contact has done, there's no trick if that's what you're implying by 'overcome'. They only have the same applications screens as I've had, nothing of interest there and nothing to prove he's jerked the system in some way. Has he received any payments to them, I'll say not. Until then you're 'facts' are mere guesses sorry that it is going to work.

I understand you see this forum as a source of income, probably your only source of income, but to state you've got a solution, and say its a fact, but fail to share it isn't worth anything to onlookers and the speculation ( or doom and gloom and misinformation as you called it) will continue whether you like it or not.

Read what James said - hes absolutely right.
Dont know what crawled up your a$$ and died there but dont take youre crap out on me pal.
The simple fact of the matter is people are all whining about this MP situation. There is so much misinformation out there and people crying over how stealth is dead. Im simply here to let people know that is NOT the case. As you said - provide the proper creative documentation and keep on working.
So cut the crap and the abuse pal. Nobody appreciates it and youre just coming across as a douchenozzle.

warnka1 07-10-2020 11:26 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Agrred!! at least stay positive

warnka1 07-10-2020 11:27 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
so here is my 1 cent!!

i did some research that etsy use same MP Process and i tried to sign up with my ein instead of ssn on three acounts. and walaah it was approved in less than 5 seconds.

JamesNorth101 07-10-2020 11:32 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
By your own admission you dont actually use stealth accounts so other than trying to constantly predict the end of all things stealth related and trolling people I am at a loss as to why we have the pleasure of your company. Its a free world and all and I guess its how you get your kicks. Bit sad if you ask me but who am I to judge :)

Anyway what Sloker is said is right - so far no major issued with MP. May well end up being easier than PP for those with UK bank accounts.

nyc 07-10-2020 11:52 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by prodigyace (Post 1105077)
I don't think he should post them on this open forum.

Why not? A forum seller making claims that the accounts were approved with screenshots is only appropriate.

StealthHarry 07-11-2020 08:11 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warnka1 (Post 1105098)
so here is my 1 cent!!

i did some research that etsy use same MP Process and i tried to sign up with my ein instead of ssn on three acounts. and walaah it was approved in less than 5 seconds.

Ey mashallah

revenge 07-13-2020 04:16 PM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 1105004)
I know for a fact now that the MP registration system can be overcome and that stealth registration is possible.
I have a long time customer who has already signed up several of the stealth accounts he purchased from me years ago. He showed me the screenshots of the approval page - hes all setup and ready for when they activate the system later this month.
Enough with all the doom and gloom misinformation already.

Can you share this with the community who purchased account on there and need to make the transition? Registration deadline is this week.

revenge 07-15-2020 09:41 AM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by revenge (Post 1105614)
Can you share this with the community who purchased account on there and need to make the transition? Registration deadline is this week.


Got it from another thread.

thepianoman 10-12-2020 11:54 PM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 1105004)
I know for a fact now that the MP registration system can be overcome and that stealth registration is possible.
I have a long time customer who has already signed up several of the stealth accounts he purchased from me years ago. He showed me the screenshots of the approval page - hes all setup and ready for when they activate the system later this month.
Enough with all the doom and gloom misinformation already.

But did they use the same SSN when asked? If so that's more so pseudo stealth. I've been hearing people getting multiple MP accounts under their same SSN and name.

thepianoman 10-12-2020 11:56 PM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by warnka1 (Post 1105098)
so here is my 1 cent!!

i did some research that etsy use same MP Process and i tried to sign up with my ein instead of ssn on three acounts. and walaah it was approved in less than 5 seconds.

Here's the thing though, I've heard that etsy last 4 of ssn works wiht last 4 of ein but the same does not work for ebay. Ebay won't accept the EIN in the ssn slot. It wants BOTH.

Voldemort 11-02-2020 09:00 PM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 1105100)
By your own admission you dont actually use stealth accounts so other than trying to constantly predict the end of all things stealth related and trolling people I am at a loss as to why we have the pleasure of your company. Its a free world and all and I guess its how you get your kicks. Bit sad if you ask me but who am I to judge :)

Anyway what Sloker is said is right - so far no major issued with MP. May well end up being easier than PP for those with UK bank accounts.

How so since it requires tax personal id number?

nyc 11-02-2020 10:55 PM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
The smart ones know what the deal is, the fools will continued to get fooled.

degsey69 11-12-2020 09:33 PM

Re: Does MP for everyone soon on Ebay mean Stealth is dead?
 
Yes stealth is possible still, others have shown the way on this forum, in fact when eBay is 100% MP it will be easier than before as no VCC no Google voice etc as no PayPal. On eBay there is no requirement to register a credit card for payment just a bank account for payment to eBay and a bank account for them to pay you, the same one is OK. The magic bit is to open a business account, have an EIN number, you use your own SSN and name as authorized company representative. It works on transitioning accounts so it should work on new accounts when fully MP. I do see a trend with eBay that they will want documentation such as invoices and proof of payment and government ID much the same as Amazon.

All achievable in the next round of stealth account creation, more so for the individual than for the account sellers, it will be interesting.


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