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Default Designer Clothing from estate sale......

I came across some high end designer clothing from an estate of a deceased relative. Some is used, some is new with tags. I do not have any receipts for the items. My legit ebay accounts are all in excellent condition with over 1000 positive feedbacks. I want to list the clothing, but do not want to risk anything happining on these pristine accounts.

Would it be too risky to list on these accounts, or with my good standing would I be ok to sell. The items are all vero. What are my options.

I checked the forums, and all the posts related to this say this is very, very hazardous to sell this type or merch.

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try ebid! I have a high end designer website all real, and I can not sell this stuff on ebay, so I am going to try my hand at ebid...............lots of vero already listed there and it is free pics and free listings!
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Q: "What are the rules when it comes to selling trademarked or branded items, such as Gucci handbags or Tiffany jewelry, on eBay?"

A: eBay's rules about trademarked items are simple to state, but difficult as the Dickens to apply in practice. Even experienced eBay sellers make mistakes in this area. The rules are basically these:

— You cannot sell knockoff or counterfeit items on eBay — never, ever, ever, world without end, Amen.

— It's up to you to determine if an item is genuine or not.

— eBay won't help you determine if an item is genuine or not.

— If the manufacturer or owner of the brand or trademark wants your listing terminated because they think you are not selling genuine merchandise, even if you are, eBay will shut down your listing and, for repeated violations, kick you off of eBay.

— You cannot hold yourself out as an authorized reseller of a manufacturer unless you truly are one.

— If you have questions about whether an item is genuine or not, eBay wants you to talk directly to the "rights owner" or manufacturer about it, and has set up a program called VeRO (for "Verified Rights Owner") to help you do just that.

Details of eBay's VeRO program can be found at http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/programs-vero-ov.html. Many leading manufacturers participate in eBay's VeRO program, but offer little guidance to eBay sellers in determining whether an item is genuine or not. When you click on a manufacturer's "About Me" page in the VeRO section of eBay's website, many just repeat eBay's rules about not selling counterfeit or knockoff items with their brand names and trademarks on them, and warn you of the perils of doing so.

eBay does require participants in the VeRO program to give you an e-mail address where you can ask questions about their merchandise, but don't hold your breath waiting for your e-mail messages to be answered. There are some very good business reasons why manufacturers and brand owners won't go out of their way to help you sell their merchandise on eBay, among them the following:

— Many luxury-goods makers view eBay as a liquidation or "flea market" venue, and do not want their brands sold there under any circumstances for fear of tainting their brands' marketing image.

— Many manufacturers want to protect their distribution channels from low-cost competition from eBay sellers.

— Many manufacturers, especially of luxury goods, do not want to see an aftermarket in used (but genuine) merchandise competing with their new high-margin offerings.

— Many manufacturers want to avoid lawsuits and negative publicity from buyers who are angry with their eBay purchases (because of irresponsible or inexperienced sellers) and claim that the manufacturers have "aided and abetted" the eBay seller's actions by encouraging sales on eBay.

There are also some very good business reasons why eBay won't do more to help you sell branded merchandise on the site:

— eBay views itself as a "marketplace" or "platform" on which transactions take place, and is legitimately concerned about jeopardizing its "neutral" status by taking sides between sellers and trademark owners.

— eBay is petrified (and rightly so) by the prospect of being sued by powerful Fortune 500 corporations (such as the parent corporations of Gucci and Tiffany's) with deep pockets and big-name law firms behind them, and will bend over backward to avoid offending these companies.

To begin your education on eBay's brand-name merchandise policies, begin with eBay's "Guidelines for Creating Legally Compliant Listings" (http://pages.ebay.com/help/tp/compliant-listings.html).
Then take eBay's "Tutorial on Intellectual Property Policies and VeRO" (there's a link to that on the above page, but you will have to sign in using your eBay User ID and password to take the tutorial). Finally, review eBay's VeRO page and read the "frequently asked questions" that are posted there: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/...nded-item.html. You now know as much as anyone does about selling brand-name merchandise on eBay.

The bottom line is that when you sell brand-name merchandise on eBay without the manufacturer's permission or authorization, you are taking a risk, and will have to expect that occasionally eBay will terminate one of your listings even if you are convinced that the item is genuine. If you bought the item yourself, post a photo of your purchase receipt on your eBay listing (blacking out any personal information, of course). And remember . . . if a deal seems "too good to be true," it probably is. That "genuine Gucci handbag" you bought from a store in a back alley of Rome for 50 Euros (about $69) is almost certainly not genuine — don't even think about selling it on eBay!

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beatingebay, do you own ebid?
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I wish i did! Ebay has me on the forum for lost accounts! Lol
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My supplier I were talking today she said this has been going on all summer, the vero take downs. She said she sent in all the paperwork proving it was authentic items to ebay for all her customers, said nothing is working...........they just keep taking down auctions. Ebay is out of control!
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