Shedding Light: Paypal Money Released After 180 Days

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Originally Posted by tony12ho

Its been 180 days... now what?

Send them an email or better yet, call them. You did your time, now you want your cash.

[tony12ho]

Called them up. Apparently had 9 days left till the limitation allowed me to withdraw funds, but he did something behind the scenes and let me do it today. Hoping to get my money out and then ditch the account.

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Good stuff

After you have the cash in hand go to bank and get a new account number. Tell them you think yo may have given it out by mistake and are worried about fraud. Then PayPal cant use it AND you got a new account for a new PayPal...

[aquabats]

hi guys

i have 2 account at paypal that were limited 190 - 193 days ago and paypal did not give me the option to withdraw my money yet.

I am going to call them tomorrow and if they try to scam and run away with my money, i am going to sue them in my countries' court. Has anyone ever had this experience?

In my opinion, paypal has no right to keep my money forever. At the end, i have delivered stuff to the customers and money has to be released.

I will liek to hear your voice on this matter.

Regards

[Burning]

Originally Posted by aquabats

hi guys

i have 2 account at paypal that were limited 190 - 193 days ago and paypal did not give me the option to withdraw my money yet.

I am going to call them tomorrow and if they try to scam and run away with my money, i am going to sue them in my countries' court. Has anyone ever had this experience?

In my opinion, paypal has no right to keep my money forever. At the end, i have delivered stuff to the customers and money has to be released.

I will liek to hear your voice on this matter.

Regards

You have to call them to get your money.

Otherwise, hopefully you will get your money. I Wish you all the best getting your funds out of your paypal account. I am sure they will release the funds and let you withdraw...

[jesseinkaron]

What happens when you call them? They want your DOB? Verify your identity?
I have a few grand locked up after 180 days, I am afraid to call because I can't remember DOB. I know .. my bad ...

[kabatzas]

Originally Posted by jesseinkaron

What happens when you call them? They want your DOB? Verify your identity?
I have a few grand locked up after 180 days, I am afraid to call because I can't remember DOB. I know .. my bad ...

No they will just ask your name, or maybe your email address.

Its worth mentioning that if you acount is Just LIMITED, then you will not get the email to withdraw. You need to "appeal" and this will result in the 180 hold of funds. Paypal start counting from the 1st day you were limited, so don't rush.....even if appeal on day 179 and get the 180 hold notice (in happens within 4 hours), next day you will be able to get your money back as the 180 days from the initial limitation are up.

Not sure what will happen if you "forget" appeal and the 180 days pass....... maybe then it gets messy.....

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Originally Posted by kabatzas

Not sure what will happen if you "forget" appeal and the 180 days pass....... .

I had an account I never did anything with. No appeal. It just sat forever. One day I got an email out of the blue I could withdraw. How long I'm not sure, it was awhile. A year maybe. So I think at one point it just happened

I don't think it can sit in limbo forever. At some point they have to give you your cash.

[slapped]

Paypal CANNOT Keep it,,,Thats the Law,,,,

The problem for a Lot of users comes when the Decide to Close the attached Bank account to the Limited Paypal account and they are are Unable to add another Bank account to that Paypal when the 180 Days is up in order to Withdraw the Funds,,,

and Being a Stealth paypal account having Paypal cut a Check in the stealth Name is NOT an Option,,,

I Personally have added Bank Accounts after the 180 Limit to Stealth Accounts with no Problem, as Did Burning the OP,,,so I am not sure why others are having Problems,,,,

The Safest thing to Do is Not to Touch the Attached Bank Account after the Paypal account has been Limited and only close AFTER you get Every Dime out of Paypal,,,

[Burning]

Nice way to bring up an old thread

As slapped mentioned, do not close the bank account after your paypal gets limited. I did the same mistake, but good thing I was able to change it. Things have changed since then.....I am sure they have made it harder for people to add another bank account after account gets limited...

[jesseinkaron]

Hey guys,

Thanks for that.
I did not close the bank account attached to this paypal, my bank closed it because it was inactive. I am overseas and could not deal with it from here. I was able to add a new bank account, and It is now attached and confirmed. So if the law is that they have to give it back, should I just call them and firmly demand they allow a withdrawal to the bank account on file, and threaten them with legal action? What if they ask for my DOB and my stupid ass can't answer? Should I just say I did not call to answer questions, I called to get my money back.

please advise

[jesseinkaron]

Kabatsaz,

I got the email that I could withdraw, but the withdrawal failed.. and now there is no option to withdraw. Perhaps they linked it to another one of my limited accounts that is less than 180 days.. and now it is on hold until that account is 180 days limited?
JUST A THOUGHT.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by slapped

Paypal CANNOT Keep it,,,Thats the Law,

No, paypal can and do keep funds. Federal and state laws may be broken but paypal declines to release funds under the guise of enforcing their T&S for (of all things) the safety of account holders. Until their bluff gets called, there will be many persons unable to get their own funds.
That little posse in Utah plays G-d on a daily basis. Hundreds of thousands of dollars are kept simply because paypal wants to do that.

[snowtires1]

he is exactly right- even after 180 days payscum CAN and WILL steal your $$ if they decide to. they just did a "reversal" on me 10 days or so before my 180 was up. like they were being very vindictive.

just NEVER , EVER keep larger amounts of $$ in the account.

[snowtires1]

he is exactly right- even after 180 days payscum CAN and WILL steal your $$ if they decide to. they just did a "reversal" on me 10 days or so before my 180 was up. like they were being very vindictive.

just NEVER , EVER keep larger amounts of $$ in the account.

[jesseinkaron]

After being limited for more than 180 days I did receive the email stating my funds were available for withdrawal, however my withdrawal was reversed. Now after more than 200 days, I no longer have the option to withdraw funds.. After several emails to paypal...

I received this today :

I got this from Paypal :

Dear ######,

As part of our commitment to offering a safe transaction network for all of
our valued members, we regularly screen account activity. During one of
these screenings, we reviewed your account and determined that the activity
associated to your eBay or PayPal accounts poses an inherent risk to the
overall security of our network. Unfortunately, due to this risk, we have
determined that we are no longer able to offer the use of our services to
you.

Although you are no longer able to utilize PayPal services, you may still
log into your PayPal account to review the information associated to your
use of our services for a limited time.

In accordance with PayPal s User Agreement, the balance of your PayPal
account will be held for 180 days to protect PayPal against the risk of
reversal stemming from buyer claims, chargebacks, or other reversal rights
that may have been assigned to a consumer outside of PayPal and eBay s
policies. After the180-day period has passed, any remaining funds will be
available to you for withdrawal, less any additional amounts owed to PayPal
or eBay.

Additionally, eBay will charge any amounts you have not previously disputed
to the billing method currently on file and you will be credited for any
listings that were ended.

While we regret having to make this decision, please understand that the
decision was based on criteria set forth in the User Agreements for both
PayPal and eBay. You can view our User Agreements in their entirety by
using links located at the footer of each of our websites.

Please do not reply to this email, as this mailbox is not monitored and you
will not receive a response. If you seek further clarification regarding
your account access, please contact PayPal by visiting the Help Center and
clicking "Contact Us.

We thank you for your prompt attention and cooperation with this matter.

Sincerely,

Account Review Department
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[connecttohelp]

So my ebay account was suspended, but not my paypal account. There are also no limits on my old paypal account (the one associated with my suspended ebay account).

I have some higher priced items that I need to sell, but do not want to sell with new ebay ID as the new paypal account associated with it might get limited.

I am thinking of listing my items under me new ebay ID, and allowing buyers to submit their best offer. If I communicate with the buyer and they agree to pay via direct paypal invoice, can I send them an invoice from my old paypal account? Will ebay catch on to this? Any thoughts how I can still utilize my old paypal account?


Also, with new paypal accounts, how easily and how quickly are they limited?

[kabatzas]

Originally Posted by connecttohelp

So my ebay account was suspended, but not my paypal account. There are also no limits on my old paypal account (the one associated with my suspended ebay account).

I have some higher priced items that I need to sell, but do not want to sell with new ebay ID as the new paypal account associated with it might get limited.

I am thinking of listing my items under me new ebay ID, and allowing buyers to submit their best offer. If I communicate with the buyer and they agree to pay via direct paypal invoice, can I send them an invoice from my old paypal account? Will ebay catch on to this? Any thoughts how I can still utilize my old paypal account?


Also, with new paypal accounts, how easily and how quickly are they limited?

It does not matter if you do it through invoice or not, ebay and paypal will link your accounts (via IP, flash, etc....) and limit you! Your paypal account has probably been red-flaged and once you try to use it it will probably get limited instantly!

I did however have an ebay account linked to a paypal account with different name, and ebay got limited due to exesive listing from the first day, but the paypal account still works on its own.

New paypal accounts under 6 months old are getting limited very easy.
As an example: List 10 items the first day you open it, or one item with 100 quantity and you will get limited straight away. if you list them slowly over the first month it works well.

I have noticed that business paypal accounts are even easier to get limited (paypal ask for details etc), but also easier and faster to fix.

Also paypal used without ebay seems to work quite good! Paypal don't seem to care as much for items sold outside ebay.

[kabatzas]

Originally Posted by jesseinkaron

After being limited for more than 180 days I did receive the email stating my funds were available for withdrawal, however my withdrawal was reversed. Now after more than 200 days, I no longer have the option to withdraw funds.. After several emails to paypal...

I received this today :

I got this from Paypal :

Dear ######,

As part of our commitment to offering a safe transaction network for all of
our valued members, we regularly screen account activity. During one of
these screenings, we reviewed your account and determined that the activity
associated to your eBay or PayPal accounts poses an inherent risk to the
overall security of our network. Unfortunately, due to this risk, we have
determined that we are no longer able to offer the use of our services to
you.

Although you are no longer able to utilize PayPal services, you may still
log into your PayPal account to review the information associated to your
use of our services for a limited time.

In accordance with PayPal s User Agreement, the balance of your PayPal
account will be held for 180 days to protect PayPal against the risk of
reversal stemming from buyer claims, chargebacks, or other reversal rights
that may have been assigned to a consumer outside of PayPal and eBay s
policies. After the180-day period has passed, any remaining funds will be
available to you for withdrawal, less any additional amounts owed to PayPal
or eBay.

Additionally, eBay will charge any amounts you have not previously disputed
to the billing method currently on file and you will be credited for any
listings that were ended.

While we regret having to make this decision, please understand that the
decision was based on criteria set forth in the User Agreements for both
PayPal and eBay. You can view our User Agreements in their entirety by
using links located at the footer of each of our websites.

Please do not reply to this email, as this mailbox is not monitored and you
will not receive a response. If you seek further clarification regarding
your account access, please contact PayPal by visiting the Help Center and
clicking "Contact Us.

We thank you for your prompt attention and cooperation with this matter.

Sincerely,

Account Review Department
Forward Message

Paypal Policy - A License To Steal Your MoneyPaypal Policy - A License To Steal Your Money

Well, I think the guys at paypal cannot be bothered to do the work and just click on random automated responses!

You need to call them and give them an excuse for why the withdrawal failed...see if they will allow you another chance.

If everything fails, tell them that you have moved address, and you would like the cheque sent there. as for the name....... go register a DBA name matching the one on file and you are all good to deposit the cheque in your real bank account.

Even if the address trick fails, and the address on file is an existing address, you can always go there and make a story up to whoever lives there about you living up the street and you are waiting for a letter sent accidentally to the wrong number.

Anyway....I don't know in your country but here in the UK, It is not hard to convince paypal to give up the money after 180 days. But emails are getting ignored especially if long ones. The reason is that paypal has set targets for the employees, and as with all large companies these are not quality targets, but just numbers of cases "dealt with". You need to phone them!!

Important to note that in Europe paypal is a bank based in Luxembourg, and it is regulated by CSSF (Commission de Surveillance du Secteur Financier). It means that after 180 days they have to help us recover our money. It also keeps our money safe in case it goes bunkrupt.

Another thing to note is this in your email:

Additionally, eBay will charge any amounts you have not previously disputed
to the billing method currently on file and you will be credited for any
listings that were ended.

The *******s were loosing the ebay fees because people with not real details did not pay them, so now they want to do it automaticaly.

By the way why did the withrawal fail?

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Originally Posted by kabatzas

Also paypal used without ebay seems to work quite good! Paypal don't seem to care as much for items sold outside ebay.

Well, its better, yes. But they still have one click claims, and people do abuse it when its not needed instead of simple communication. So don't get too comfortable with it. And they have also added SNAD for off eBay sales now too. They still do limitations and info requests. So its not flawless. But is better off eBay, yes. But PayPal is PayPal so they wont be smooth going, you cant count on that

[lucerorojo]

Hello everyone,

I got suspended on PP recently, and they asked for a long list of documents, including drivers license, social sec, etc. that I cannot provide.

So I never got the 180 day wait email. They insist I need to provide all this.

My question is, because I never got a notice that I will have to wait 180 days, does my account just stay in PP limbo forever? Will they just keep the cash in that PP account? Or will I be able to recover my money in 6 months?

Thanks in advance, and good luck trading.
Lucero

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Originally Posted by lucerorojo

does my account just stay in PP limbo forever?

Forever, no. They cant just out right keep the money. However, the sooner you get the parting ways email the better. No need to add extra time. Send them an email saying you do not want to provide that personal info because you do not feel safe giving it to them. They will be kind enough to set the 180 day clock ticking