Should I enter a fake, stolen, or other person's social security SS number?...NO NO!

[Modee]

True, if when PayPal runs the 11 or 5 year old's credit nothing comes back (the person is a "ghost" in credit bureau parlance), then they will not even know the person's age or other information.

However, all this is guaranteed to cause the minor credit problems in the future.

For example, my Dad and I obviously shared the same address when I was growing up (well, not obviously...but my parents never divorced and I lived with them), and when I was about 21 I applied for a loan and a lot of my Dad's credit was on my report. All of it was good, but when they saw accounts that dated back to when I was extremely young, they assumed that all my credit was phony and denied me. And it was very difficult to clean up that mess - took me years.

So think before you create havoc for your kids over something as silly as getting around the PayPal social requirement. Instead, get a hold of a pre 11/2007 EBAY account that does not require PP, or create a real merchant account today and FAX the docs to EBAY when requested.

[ebay__sux]

Originally Posted by Modee

Instead, get a hold of a pre 11/2007 EBAY account that does not require PP, or create a real merchant account today and FAX the docs to EBAY when requested.

Hey Modee

I have an account that I opened in August 2006. After ebay suspended my other account, I started using that 2006 account. I never bought or sold anything through that account. Last week, I bought a simon's giftaccount to use with the fake name I had on that 2006 ebay account. After I list the 7th item, ebay asked to to link my paypal account to my ebay account. Do you think this was because that 2006 ebay account was not used as a seller account up until last week? And if we wanna get a pre 11/2007 ebay account, where can we get one from?

[Modee]

I sell pre 11/2007 EBAY accounts. PM me about that.

Newer accounts are placed under a higher level of scrutiny. Also, it doesn't matter whether you formally link your PP account with EBAY or not. If the PP account you use in any way with that EBAY account has ever been associated with a suspended EBAY account, everything will go down.

[taz109]

Hi, my ebay and paypal accts were suspended exactly 1 year ago. I have been reading these forums for a couple of weeks now. I never gave ebay or paypal my ssn, so i am wondering if I sign up for new accounts with them using my middle name instead of my first name, put in all new info for address, bank, cc, ip address, ph #, and verify paypal with bank acct and cc to lift $500 limit. I know they will eventually ask for my ssn, but since I never gave it to them and name is different to paypal but yet still matches ssn info, will that work. I know it is very common that people go by their middle name instead. What do you think?

If that doesn't work my father-in-law will let me use his name and ssn.

[daowen]

Okay, I am not a newbie when it comes to PayPal but I also do not say I know everything. I also know a lot about the banking world, credit and so forth due to working in the industry for over a decade so here is some advise.

I have four PayPal account using the same address but different information. Non have my drivers license or social security number (we call it the SIN up here in Canada). PP has never asked me for my DL or SIN and my accounts are not limited. One account collects monthly membership fees, one account collects monthly service fees, one account is used for selling on eBay and one account is used to buy (but I go between the two pending different reasons).

I was pissed when eBay limited the selling of ebooks for that was what I listed a lot of in the past, ebooks. Made good money with it. Also went from subscriptions of 10/m to almost 1k/m with no problems. Most recent PP account was opened in Dec 07, with little sales. Sold ebooks with it and then nothing for 3 months. Now, for this month I rolled it up to almost 2k in 2 weeks without a peep from PP.

How did I do this? Well I registered the PP accounts as business accounts! Verified the bank accounts and gave the same CC on each one. Nothing stopped me, nothing is stopping me.

PP did ask for my SIN when I signed up and my reply was "According to the Canadian Privacy Act the Government of Canada expressly forbids the use of the Social Insurance Number for any online transactions. The SIN is used by the government to track its citizens and is private information not to be devulged to any third party". They backed down and my accounts are good. According to Canadian Law no company can demand your SIN or, in Ontario, they are not allowed to see our Ontario Hospital Insurance Plan card. So you can see how someone with a little knowledge can push then the right way.

Okay, for using someone else's SSN, do not do it. They can use the information to charge you with identity theft and seize all the funds you collected. You then may be facing Federal charges for falsification of information. The truth will always be your best partner with fighting the big guys. Also do a lot of research.

Think of this, when withdrawing funds from my PayPal account to my personal bank accounts I know that it only really should take one day after PayPal approves the transactions. The exchange is done through the EDI (Electronic Daily Interchange) system between Canada and the US. Study it by checking how fast the funds come out of your account when you decide to add money to your PayPal account. Interesting how the deposit takes 3 days longer, guess they need the money in their account or something.

Hope this part helps...

Doug

[tqk]

I only had 2 methods of verification w/o option from paypal-CC & Bank acct only.I sell on my website with no problems.I Only list auctions on ebay once or twice a month to drive more traffic to the site.If u don't give paypal any reason to suspect u, they won't.Besides,i generate X10 of the money i use to make on ebay from my website.U r in control w/o having to worry too much about ebay suspensions and paypal limitations or some stupid buyers & their feedback.In fact my numerous ebay buyers prefer to come to the website b/c i never list what i have there on ebay & shipping & other options are way better than what i have on ebay auctions.Life has never been this good.I get email from ebay everyday to come sell better by opening a store, but i'll rather use that money to boost up my site than give it to greedbay.If u have things that people want, they will follow u to the ends of the earth.Numerous emails from my ebay customers can attest to that.I used to make $1-$2K on ebay a month but now i earn at least $10,000 a month;I've quit my day job and can now concentrate on my business & going to med school.
My advice to u all, get a website and a merchant acct with paypal as an option.There are lots of free websites out there & cheap merchant accts,free google checkout as well.If i had this info 3 yrs ago, i would have been a millionaire by now, hopefully i'm getting there.
make a wise decision b/4 ebay gives u the boot.Its really not worth the stress.

[aznb0i]

I just made a new ebay and paypal account using my brothers information.I just switched the address around a little bit.I verified paypal with a new bank account and my bro's ss#. I have listed on ebay 2 phones one that sold for $10 and another for $300. I recieved the funds and paypal did not even hold the money and I had transfered most of the funds to my bank account.Ebay also did not even limit my account,I have 2 pos Feedbacks at the time of listing. So if you can use someones information that you know that is close to you than you should be good. I have made many ebay and paypal accounts and paypal always would limit it and ask for more information.

[Modee]

Check this out too:
Taxes - PayPal, other credit card processors reporting income (gross receipts) to IRS

PayPal will eventually require the verified social just to open or maintain the account. And if you give them a bogus social and when reporting time comes the number means nothing to the IRS, you will be facing tax evasion charges.

[adl0816]

My account got limited today and it's asking for a SSN... so should I message PP and tell them I don't want to give them my SSN?

[eve germain]

hi aspkin, can i use my son's SS# to set up account with ebay and PP? he has a different last name than i do. He's is TEN years old, will this be a proble when PP verifies SS #. Can I use a different address for Ebay and PP verification, like my husbands work address?

[x2ruff4u]

after reading all this I have some info of mine.

Paypal is limiting more accounts more easier now. It just goes off without warning, it just isnt me. I know alot of people on this forum are noticing it.

I experimented with 10 pp accounts none linked to anything

I took money in with one slowly, then a little more. Limited

Took one in taking large transactions was going good limited.

I tryed the disputes 20 seems to be the closest to being closed on disputes. Then again some of my accounts are still up n runing even with those many disputes and take money in. My opinion on this is most likely I took slow money on these.

Alot of them limited and I tryed all different settings for taking money in.

The best advice to give at this point is never recieve a 100 dollar transaction. first take a week slowly of taking money in to the account. Hmm I still have more experiments to try.

[Brendaleigh]

I may be posting this on the wrong thread - but I cannot find one that addresses this really possibly obvious question and I hate to start a new thread. I was going to open my new Bank account at the bank I do all my business with. So my new account will have a new account number but the same routing number as my old one. (My old PAYPAL account has not been limited or suspended - just my eBay account that was tied to it.) Is this risky? I really want to use the same bank because they know me there and it will be much easier to open a Business account without producing tons of ID. This is a medium size Bank with several branches in my city - but a local bank and not anywhere but in my city. I have gone to so much work to cover my tracks that I don't want to get caught for something this stupid. What do you think? Is the same routing number enough to get me linked? If I am in the wrong thread - please direct me. Thanks.

[philly387]

The same routing number will be fine. Not a big deal.