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dreamingtree2021 12-29-2022 11:32 AM

Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
I got the dreaded " Your Amazon selling privileges have been removed"

this one:

In accordance with Section 3 of Amazon’s Business Solutions Agreement, your account has been deactivated because you are offering items that may be inauthentic. A list of these items is provided at the end of this email.
In order to ensure that customers can shop with confidence on Amazon, we routinely request additional documentation from sellers to verify their account information and confirm authenticity of certain items.

So the 3 ASINs listed on the bottom of the email are the following:

B07D9XB4RS Tom of Finland Tom Of Finland Leather Jock Strap, Ml
B0BDGPT2FP STRICT ST Red Female Chest Harness- M/L
B0BDJ6DNZN STRICT ST Red Female Chest Harness- S/M


I am dropshipping sex toy products from a well known dropshipper.

Things you need to know:

1. I've never sold these items - meaning 0 sales
2. I am around the $9300 mark in sales
3. I've already received 2 payments on this account
4. It is a pro shop, video verified purchase from a member in this forum
5. I received the letter of authorization from Tom of Finalnd, with my stealth name and everything stating I am authorized to sell these items.

I submitted that and Amazon still rejected.. they are asking for invoices.
How can I explain to Amazon that if they look at my sales they can see that I've never even sold these items, I don't buy the items until I get sales on Amazon. I explained that my dropshipper follows all of Amazon's policies (plain package, my return address, no slips of paper inside, etc) and that I don't purchase anything until I get a sale for that item.

I'm waiting on a reply from my dropshipper for a solution.. but even if I get the authorization letter for STRICT and submit both of the authorization letters it will get denied because they will want to see invoices still..

anyone experience this? this is a stealth account so I cannot call Amazon to ask them why it keeps getting rejected.

I appreciate any guidance or solutions.

murdered_by_ebay 12-29-2022 01:04 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
drop shipping is not allowed on amazon , it can be done but it has to be completely invisible to them

dreamingtree2021 12-29-2022 01:17 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1208102)
drop shipping is not allowed on amazon , it can be done but it has to be completely invisible to them

Yes I know this, I've spoken to a rep from Amazon from my main(legit) account.
They frown against it, but as long as it follows their policy it's fine.

Still doesn't answer my question on how I can get around not sending invoices.

murdered_by_ebay 12-29-2022 02:27 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
the only way would be to send invoices , get the items from a well know supplier accepted by amazon and send invoices to them , you can change the dates

Hank 12-29-2022 05:25 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
You will never persuade Amazon you are an authorised seller on any of those ASINs.

The first one is quite simply a dreadfully presented counterfeit ASIN, the brand is 'XR Brands' merely using an image of a Tom of Finland product - probably to peddle counterfeits.

The other two are not 'STRICT', they are bogus ASINs created only a few weeks ago under the brand 'STRICT ST'. Again, in the eyes of Amazon they are counterfeits.

Stop trying to persuade them you've a legitimate source for these brands, you're only going to dig an even deeper hole. Ideally, you will need to delete all your ASINs and explain your why you listed against these bogus ASIN's and how it will never happen again.

Hank 12-29-2022 05:27 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1208102)
drop shipping is not allowed on amazon , it can be done but it has to be completely invisible to them

Dropshipping is permitted, they even have a tutorial on how to do it.

https://sell.amazon.com/learn/what-is-dropshipping

dreamingtree2021 12-29-2022 07:51 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1208114)
You will never persuade Amazon you are an authorised seller on any of those ASINs.

The first one is quite simply a dreadfully presented counterfeit ASIN, the brand is 'XR Brands' merely using an image of a Tom of Finland product - probably to peddle counterfeits.

The other two are not 'STRICT', they are bogus ASINs created only a few weeks ago under the brand 'STRICT ST'. Again, in the eyes of Amazon they are counterfeits.

Stop trying to persuade them you've a legitimate source for these brands, you're only going to dig an even deeper hole. Ideally, you will need to delete all your ASINs and explain your why you listed against these bogus ASIN's and how it will never happen again.


Thank you for this information..
but when I go to re-activate my account the only option is to check the 5 boxes and upload invoices... how do I get around this part?

Do I just open a case file and tell them I accidentally listed under these ASINs on accident?

dreamingtree2021 12-29-2022 08:29 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1208114)
You will never persuade Amazon you are an authorised seller on any of those ASINs.

The first one is quite simply a dreadfully presented counterfeit ASIN, the brand is 'XR Brands' merely using an image of a Tom of Finland product - probably to peddle counterfeits.

The other two are not 'STRICT', they are bogus ASINs created only a few weeks ago under the brand 'STRICT ST'. Again, in the eyes of Amazon they are counterfeits.

Stop trying to persuade them you've a legitimate source for these brands, you're only going to dig an even deeper hole. Ideally, you will need to delete all your ASINs and explain your why you listed against these bogus ASIN's and how it will never happen again.

So I just looked up these ASINs...

ST = STRICT - there are multiple legit sellers selling this item, including sold by and shipped by Amazon

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BDJ6DNZN
and
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BDGPT2FP

The brand is STRICT when you click on the actual ASIN.. I also looked it up by UPC to make sure it was the only one.

the Tom of Finland is also legit.. many legit sellers and sales rank.. no other listings, and once again I have a letter from Tom of Finland stating I am an authorized seller for ALL ASINs on Amazon under the Brand new Tom of Finland.

https://www.amazon.com/Tom-Finland-L...dp/B07D9XB4RS/ Amazon is actually the only seller for this particular item.

So I don't think that's the issue... I honestly think they want to see invoices.

Hank 12-29-2022 08:53 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
My apologies, I googled the ASIN's and it's linked into Amazon via AMZ UK.

I see what I mentioned above, example:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/XR-Brands-F...07D9XB4RS?th=1

The delights of ASIN's being shared over several platforms.

Not sure how you can produce invoices if you've made no sales, I guess you'll need to persevere with the authorised dropshipping outlet angle.

Good luck, you're going to need it. Amazon are notoriously stubborn (or stupid) when it comes to re-instating dropshipping account if you don't present the information in exactly the format one of their Asian drones needs it in to act in your favour.

dreamingtree2021 12-29-2022 08:58 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1208129)
My apologies, I googled the ASIN's and it's linked into Amazon via AMZ UK.

I see what I mentioned above, example:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/XR-Brands-F...07D9XB4RS?th=1

The delights of ASIN's being shared over several platforms.

Not sure how you can produce invoices if you've made no sales, I guess you'll need to persevere with the authorised dropshipping outlet angle.

Good luck, you're going to need it. Amazon are notoriously stubborn (or stupid) when it comes to re-instating dropshipping account if you don't present the information in exactly the format one of their Asian drones needs it in to act in your favour.

Im in talks with the dropshipper...
Im most likely going to place 3 separate orders from them 10pc each and change the date and call it a day.

:cheer:

dreamingtree2021 01-06-2023 12:06 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
update...

I placed the orders, got the items,
sent in the invoices to Amazon ( only changed the date and shipping address)
and they still deactivated my account.

They are asking me for information to prove that the items are selling are authentic..

Ive sent them the 2 invoices and a letter of authorization from the brand itself...

any ideas on how to appeal this one?

rsot 01-07-2023 11:53 AM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamingtree2021 (Post 1208482)
update...

I placed the orders, got the items,
sent in the invoices to Amazon ( only changed the date and shipping address)
and they still deactivated my account.

They are asking me for information to prove that the items are selling are authentic..

Ive sent them the 2 invoices and a letter of authorization from the brand itself...

any ideas on how to appeal this one?

perhaps look at marketplace for sellers offering amazon reinstatement services?

murdered_by_ebay 01-07-2023 12:41 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1208115)
Dropshipping is permitted, they even have a tutorial on how to do it.

https://sell.amazon.com/learn/what-is-dropshipping

amazon use a parallel system of "reputable" suppliers , whatever that is

in case of problems they just reject any other supplier or any business model they do not like

so if doing drop shipping it is better to make it invisible to them

cardfelon 01-08-2023 12:08 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
As previously drop shipping is very frowned upon. Did you watch the videos in Seller University before starting this? If you are drop shipping BESIDES the plain box/invoice etc... the most common thing people miss is this. Amazon requires you to already own your product and the drop shipper has to hold your inventory in a separate area. So if you submit invoices dated after the first date you added to product to your inventory it is game over no matter what.

rsot 01-08-2023 12:22 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cardfelon (Post 1208545)
So if you submit invoices dated after the first date you added to product to your inventory it is game over no matter what.

Logically, has to be dated before

wallstreetjimmy 01-09-2023 07:59 AM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1208549)
Logically, has to be dated before

Whats to say one can photoshop an reciept since invoice is just a bill not an actual proof of purchase ...would it look like the reciept you get from the grocery store or more like a itemized invoice stamped paid? And has anyone had experience with passing the ⊗⊗⊗⊗ ones on ebay or amazon. I'm starting to think ebay calls the manufacturer cause I can't get passed this one...I used to back in the day but not anymore...I photoshoped regular reciepts and have a ton of templates ...I never used invoices but would love to hear if anyone else has since those are easier to make.

Hank 01-10-2023 04:23 AM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1208517)

so if doing drop shipping it is better to make it invisible to them

LOL, I don't know if anyone, even those doing it legitimately, makes it 'visible' to them. There's certainly no setting you need to check to announce it.

It's kinda the purpose of dropshipping.

Hank 01-10-2023 04:32 AM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cardfelon (Post 1208545)
As previously drop shipping is very frowned upon. Did you watch the videos in Seller University before starting this? If you are drop shipping BESIDES the plain box/invoice etc... the most common thing people miss is this. Amazon requires you to already own your product and the drop shipper has to hold your inventory in a separate area. So if you submit invoices dated after the first date you added to product to your inventory it is game over no matter what.

Poor dropshippers are frowned upon, good ones have no problem at all.

As for your claim that you have to already own the products held in a separate area then that is just comically stupid. Why say something so ridiculous?

Read the link I gave you, it makes it blatantly clear that you do not need to own or store the goods you intend to dropship.

Dropshipping fails because too many folk follow the poor advice on forums like this and youtube, manipulating orders, receipts and supplier agreements.

Get it right and it's plain sailing, I've been using one of my Amazon account to dropship since 2015 - not that they'd know.

Hank 01-10-2023 04:36 AM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamingtree2021 (Post 1208482)
update...

I placed the orders, got the items,
sent in the invoices to Amazon ( only changed the date and shipping address)
and they still deactivated my account.

They are asking me for information to prove that the items are selling are authentic..

Ive sent them the 2 invoices and a letter of authorization from the brand itself...

any ideas on how to appeal this one?

IMO they know that the documents supplied have been doctored and do not dovetail with the information you have already given them. Lets not forget you've already told them your dropshipping model.

It was always a bad idea to submit dodgy invoices, IMO the account is now dead.

wallstreetjimmy 01-10-2023 01:16 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1208649)
IMO they know that the documents supplied have been doctored and do not dovetail with the information you have already given them. Lets not forget you've already told them your dropshipping model.

It was always a bad idea to submit dodgy invoices, IMO the account is now dead.

Dodgy invoices? You must be clueless on how to use photoshop. The Real question is how far do they go to check them?

Hank 01-10-2023 01:28 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallstreetjimmy (Post 1208690)
Dodgy invoices? You must be clueless on how to use photoshop. The Real question is how far do they go to check them?

LOL, it's not me who's had their invoices rejected.
The truly clueless are the ones who don't know how easy it is nowadays to determine when a document has been doctored in photoshop. They don't have to go very far to check in an almost fully automated system.
Anyway, if I was doctoring invoices it wouldn't be in photoshop, can't believe folk still think this is the best program. :)

murdered_by_ebay 01-10-2023 02:18 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1208647)
LOL, I don't know if anyone, even those doing it legitimately, makes it 'visible' to them. There's certainly no setting you need to check to announce it.

It's kinda the purpose of dropshipping.

the TO told them they do not own the items but have them sold and shipped to them after purchase on amazon

murdered_by_ebay 01-10-2023 02:23 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallstreetjimmy (Post 1208690)
Dodgy invoices? You must be clueless on how to use photoshop. The Real question is how far do they go to check them?

if it is a piece of paper there is no way to find out , they can try to call the supplier but even in that case they may not receive any information

it is far more likely that the rejections have two reason:

they do not to accept them from sellers with little selling history

and they want to see suppliers they know because it is very likely that such suppliers would be ready to verify the invoice

wallstreetjimmy 01-10-2023 02:36 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1208691)
LOL, it's not me who's had their invoices rejected.
The truly clueless are the ones who don't know how easy it is nowadays to determine when a document has been doctored in photoshop. They don't have to go very far to check in an almost fully automated system.
Anyway, if I was doctoring invoices it wouldn't be in photoshop, can't believe folk still think this is the best program. :)

Photoshop is by far the best of the best 👌...I can make your ID and go shopping with it no problem...lol...know what ur talking about before u speak

wallstreetjimmy 01-10-2023 03:02 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1208700)
if it is a piece of paper there is no way to find out , they can try to call the supplier but even in that case they may not receive any information

it is far more likely that the rejections have two reason:

they do not to accept them from sellers with little selling history

and they want to see suppliers they know because it is very likely that such suppliers would be ready to verify the invoice

I'm suspecting they have a flag list on certain items ... like new milwaukee and dewalt tools
Cause they can't argue with a retail receipt straight from the store. Yet they still banned the account

wallstreetjimmy 01-10-2023 03:03 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
How ever 1 items shipped late and that causef the invoice request mc011

Hank 01-10-2023 03:10 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallstreetjimmy (Post 1208701)
Photoshop is by far the best of the best 👌...I can make your ID and go shopping with it no problem...lol...know what ur talking about before u speak

LOL, that's rich coming from someone who asks the most basic of questions on an almost daily basis.

Forgive me if I take your claims with a pinch of salt, you don't come across as someone who knows what they're doing. :pound:

The standards of this forum have slipped dramatically in only a matter of a couple of years, no wonder most of the old regulars are long gone.

Hank 01-10-2023 03:24 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wallstreetjimmy (Post 1208705)
Cause they can't argue with a retail receipt straight from the store. Yet they still banned the account

Oh dear......I'm afraid they can and will :shhh:

No dodgy photoshopping will solve this one.

wallstreetjimmy 01-10-2023 03:31 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1208698)
the TO told them they do not own the items but have them sold and shipped to them after purchase on amazon

What If one had a liquidation reciept or auction invoice. That is pretty much a blanket reciept of ownership. It's not like some storages don't have new items cause they do maybe a whole lot of items?

Hank 02-07-2023 03:57 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
^^^

@TH, bumping decade old threads won't generate any credibility as you keep peddling your scam services. Probably best if you start prepping another account, this one surely won't last long :)

agent006140 02-09-2023 06:15 PM

dropshipping from a distributor,wholesaler or factory is fine,but not retail arbitrage,
A letter from Tom Hil does not mean what you have currently listed on AMZN is from Tom Hill,thats why they want to see invoice,see with paid invoice it shows you have the goods

A retail receipt from WMT,TGT is not a vendor invoice.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallstreetjimmy (Post 1211005)
Best buy reciepts worked for the new alienware laptops i once sold

But you are just selling one you have ,not ones you dont have.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamingtree2021 (Post 1208130)
Im in talks with the dropshipper...
Im most likely going to place 3 separate orders from them 10pc each and change the date and call it a day.

:cheer:

You alter the invoice,so AMZN does not trust you,what else would you alter?
There are too many sellers peddling same or similar items,thin out the crowd and let the remaining ones make some money

wallstreetjimmy 02-14-2023 03:19 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1208691)
LOL, it's not me who's had their invoices rejected.
The truly clueless are the ones who don't know how easy it is nowadays to determine when a document has been doctored in photoshop. They don't have to go very far to check in an almost fully automated system.
Anyway, if I was doctoring invoices it wouldn't be in photoshop, can't believe folk still think this is the best program. :)

If the united states of america accepts photoshop..what makes u think ebay wont??? 😂?plus ive dealt with ebay since early 2000 so i know what im talking about when it comes to the verification process but last few months something happened. Ill tell you what i got to the point where i had 30k sitting in one account before even shipping the items....lol...so ill tell you this they wont do that again? They got hit hard by ebayers for sure.

SaiJin 02-14-2023 11:12 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
NO photoshop talk!

wallstreetjimmy 02-16-2023 03:26 PM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1210893)
A retail receipt from WMT,TGT is not a vendor invoice.

Best buy reciepts worked for the new alienware laptops i once sold

alekov 05-25-2023 10:06 AM

Re: Ran into a Roadblock.. need solution
 
Don't focus on the "inauthentic" part. Amazon's language is different than the everyday language we use. The point that Amazon itself sells same items is irrelevant since you can still sell inauthentic items on the same ASIN, but in my opinion they aren't even saying that your items are inauthentic per se. What they are saying is that you aren't authorized to sell those, and you aren't purchasing them from an authorized distributor. At least that's what I read between the lines.

I would continue to change invoices/receipts and keep sending them until they accept them. Once I had to do it for year and a half until they accepted them. As another member here advised me once, Amazons team of monkeys are a bunch of retards, don't be afraid of sending different invoices on the same ASIN, they have no short term memory and don't care until you get the right monkey that accepts it. I've sent the same invoice with the same numbers before, just changed the receiver name or added address or whatever and they never once questioned how is this the same invoice as the last I sent them but with different info on it.

So make sure you send them the invoices the way they are asking for them - ALL THE INFO THERE! Selling party, selling address, website, contact info, buyer name, company name, address, phone number and email same as your amazon account one, sometimes they even check the tracking number or say the invoice didn't show shipped/paid so make sure it reads as the items were shipped and received. Keep on it until they accept them.


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