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sax4 12-20-2010 08:59 PM

MAC - Dongle
 
Is there any way to change the MAC for an internet dongle?, or for multiple Amazon accounts is it necessary to havve multiple dongles if you want to connect that way?

ovidiu 12-20-2010 10:27 PM

Apparently there is something called Open VPN that can generate random Macs for dongles.

sax4 12-21-2010 06:28 AM

Ah great, I will check it out, thanks.

Amazombie 12-22-2010 11:18 AM

Honestly, I don't think there is a MAC address for dongles. MAC addresses are just for ethernet, wireless cards, and routers.

When I do ipconfig/all at my windows command prompt it shows the MAC address (PHYSICAL ADDRESS) field as blank for my Dongle but shows the MAC address for my other hardware devices.

Check out this link for more information on how to find your MAC address:

Getting Your MAC Address: Windows Vista - GROK Knowledge Base

eternity4u 12-22-2010 12:43 PM

So you are saying that Dongle has no mac address at all

ovidiu 12-22-2010 01:10 PM

That's not possible. All network devices have a MAC address.

eternity4u 12-22-2010 01:49 PM

So if we to use a mobile dongle then i guess it would be limit to one per account

ovidiu 12-22-2010 01:54 PM

Unless it can be changed with special software. Because mobile devices are so highly regulated by the carriers, I assume some will allow the MAC to be changed and some won't.

holymoly 12-22-2010 01:56 PM

It's not a matter of if they can't it's just...CAN YOU DO IT AT THIS POINT? Every machine can be changed, there just may not be an interface to do it yet.

It is possible.

ovidiu 12-22-2010 02:05 PM

I don't know. I don't use a dongle so I can't test this. Also, Windows 7, which I now use, makes it more difficult to manually access this info. I'll run the mac spoofer on my tethered connection and see if my blackberry even turns up.

ovidiu 12-22-2010 02:13 PM

When I tethered my blackberry curve via bluetooth in Windows 7 pro, I see a MAC address assigned to the bluetooth connection in Technitium, but I do not directly see a MAC address assigned to the phone hardware anywhere I can find. So that's all I know right now.

Amazombie 12-22-2010 06:06 PM

When you said dongle I may have been confusing tethering a phone with using a wireless internet USB service like CLEAR.

I use a CLEAR USB Wireless Internet dongle and it never shows a MAC Address. Tethering may be different but I know my CLEAR USB Wireless Internet dongle does not have a MAC address.

sax4 12-22-2010 06:16 PM

Getting confused:confused:, think i'll be asking Santa for a few dongles in my stocking

eternity4u 12-22-2010 07:21 PM

Well after many days reading the Amazon Ghost i am getting near to completion of a real Amazon Ghost account.
Ebay stealth was easy, Amazon is on a different level. But once you know what you doing then it is easy.

I have bought some network adapters, i can spoof it too but i would try that later once i get use to this.
If i connect a mobile dongle, would the mac address become fix? Would i need to remove the software it i want multiple accounts.
I have broadband that does not changes IP, so that's why i need to work with dongles.

Also if i want browse around with my home network, would that be a effect on my amazon accounts
I know user accounts keep flas cookies etc seperate, so i would keep one user account for my home network

ovidiu 12-22-2010 10:06 PM

Every network device has a MAC address, period. If you can't see it, software is hiding it because it's probably not changeable.

ONE 12-23-2010 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sasasasa (Post 191987)
Getting confused:confused:, think i'll be asking Santa for a few dongles in my stocking

thats what she said

ONE 12-23-2010 02:13 AM

All I know is I bought sprints mifi device and my life has been changed forever. Boots super fast and everytime it changes the ip...I don't know about the MAC address but I have surfed and sold a lot using it on 15 plus accounts and not one hiccup...plus is fast. I remember having 3 screens up...2 with dial up and 1 with high speed.....no more.

lboogie 12-23-2010 08:31 AM

I have the same question.
I have a clear USB 3G/4G adapter.
Each time you connect using 3G you get a new IP
The 4G seems to not change.
Can the MAC be spoofed on the 3G connection?
Does amazon see the MAC address from the device or from what the OS is reporting?

lboogie 12-23-2010 09:35 AM

Ok. It looks like the 3G is using a generic 00-53-45-00-00-00 MAC address.
The physical address on the adapter is different and when you check in the ipconfig /all it says that the media state is disconnected.
Is this 00-53-45-00-00-00 address what amazon will see? I read on the net that this is assigned to dial up adapters by windows.
Can this trigger a freeze or suspension on a new account or even an old account?

Thanks for any help

eternity4u 12-23-2010 09:49 AM

I have exactly the same question about this.
Just like 'Iboogie'?

I set a new network adapter which has a mac Address.
When i put in my 3g dongle it comes with no mac address when i check in "getmac", or it comes with is the network adapter mac address and the rest disable.

Is this good or bad?

sax4 12-23-2010 09:55 AM

I have a three dongle, it gives me normally max of three IP addresses, two in one city in England, and one in Scotland.

Not sure eternity, maybe good?, I will do the same test

eternity4u 12-23-2010 10:06 AM

Yeh i think i am going to make one stealth Amazon to test it out, and see how things are and where i need to correct them if i make any steps, would do that today

Amazombie 12-23-2010 06:51 PM

Yeah I think on USB wireless devices such as AT&T, Sprint, Virgin, Cricket, CLEAR there is no MAC address since they operate like a hi speed dial up connection by using a SIM card to access the Internet.

In all my tests I have never found a MAC address for these devices.

Can anyone tell me if I am missing something?

ovidiu 12-23-2010 07:05 PM

I opened my blackberry curve and saw a MAC address for the bluetooth by the sim card, but everything that connects to the internet has a MAC address, no exceptions. Dial up connections do too (the modem). The MAC address is a basic component of today's networking technology.

eternity4u 12-23-2010 07:14 PM

But when cmd the only mac is for network adapter.

ovidiu 12-23-2010 07:28 PM

I think that one these dongles the MAC address is handled by the dongle or the network and is not directly visible to the end-user.

eternity4u 12-23-2010 07:36 PM

So what's the best solution for for mac changing internet provider

ovidiu 12-23-2010 07:53 PM

I think those mifi devices mentioned by ONE would be an option, because I think you are connecting to them with your wifi connection and can mess with the MAC addresses.

eternity4u 12-23-2010 08:05 PM

What's mifi device?
Sorry to sound dumb..lol
Amazon is a beast compare to Ebay Stealth

ovidiu 12-23-2010 08:19 PM

I think it is a mobile broadband device from Sprint that shares a EVDO 3G connection with multiple computers via wifi.

lboogie 12-23-2010 10:14 PM

The question here is which MAC address will amazon see?
Will they see the generic MAC address windows assigns to the outgoing connection or will they see the physical address of the 3G device?

Also, is there a site that can verify which MAC address is being used like there are many sites that show IP addresses?

Thanks

eternity4u 12-24-2010 01:11 PM

What if we a virtual computer. Wmware.
And use a new network and new internet 3g dongle to each virtual machine?
Would that solve the problem? Ofcourse disable the rest of the adapters when using the required adapters?
What do you think?
Has anyone try this:

eternity4u 12-25-2010 06:18 PM

can someone answer my question above please before i create accounts. Thanks

sax4 12-25-2010 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eternity4u (Post 192405)
What if we a virtual computer. Wmware.
And use a new network and new internet 3g dongle to each virtual machine?
Would that solve the problem? Ofcourse disable the rest of the adapters when using the required adapters?
What do you think?
Has anyone try this:

Yep that would do, that's what im gonna do, ordered three more dongles. Have to be religious about turning off other adaptor!.

Amazombie 12-25-2010 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lboogie (Post 192287)
The question here is which MAC address will amazon see?
Will they see the generic MAC address windows assigns to the outgoing connection or will they see the physical address of the 3G device?

Also, is there a site that can verify which MAC address is being used like there are many sites that show IP addresses?

Thanks

How to Find the MAC Address of Your Computer - wikiHow

Amazombie 12-25-2010 11:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ovidiu (Post 192244)
I opened my blackberry curve and saw a MAC address for the bluetooth by the sim card, but everything that connects to the internet has a MAC address, no exceptions. Dial up connections do too (the modem). The MAC address is a basic component of today's networking technology.

I have to disagree with that statement since I feel that wireless USB dongles are the exception since they are not a piece of hardware physically connected to the PC.

I understand your curve having a MAC address since you are basically using one PC type device to connect to another. A device like CLEAR USB is just a glorified cell phone SIM card temporarily connected to your PC through a USB port.

I have run virtually every type of MAC detection software and none of them ever detects a MAC address on my CLEAR USB so in mt opinion if I can't detect it then Amazon can't.

ovidiu 12-26-2010 12:29 AM

There are certain sites, like for example, Mcdonald's and Starbucks wireless portals, that will actually display the MAC address in the dynamic URL you use to connect to the service. Only way I know of I to see which MAC address a server sees.

MtnDew 12-28-2010 08:16 AM

ok...so i have a few questions...if my my mac is spoofed should the spoofed mac show or the real one when i do the ipconfig?


also anyone that can answer the phone via usb or bluetooth mac ? would be greatly appreciated. can they see my phone mac or can it be spoofed?

ovidiu 12-28-2010 02:27 PM

The spoofed mac should show, not the original one. You've changed the mac, not simply hidden the original. "spoofed" is a confusing term in that context.

sax4 12-28-2010 02:34 PM

Yeah I think we should stop using the word spoof if it actually means changing the mac and not merely disguising it


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