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jinkh82 02-01-2011 01:36 PM

What's going on?
 
I used to create several amazon accounts but somehow three of my accounts got linked as soon as I created an account. Not sure what i'm doing wrong to get the account linked. I'm sure i've done correct steps to make sure it's stealth but now i'm thinking that amazon found a new strategy to get the linked account and suspend it. By the way I bought the Amazon Ghose long time ago so i'm veteran at this. The only thing i can think of is the VCC number that I bought from the seller. Anyone can shed some light on this?

aspkin 02-01-2011 01:51 PM

List the steps you take to create your account.

Sell4more2 02-01-2011 01:59 PM

Made a couple yesterday, and they are doing fine. The steps I take to create mine are:

1. Change MAC/IP- on a USER account that I don't browse or have any connection to the internet.
2. While on that USER account I create a NEW USER account for the Amazon account I will use.
3. Log-in to that USER NAME- set up my email that I will use on that Amazon account
4. Register on Amazon.
5. List- one item at a HIGH price- so it would allow me to make a seller account.
6. Stay and browse Amazon for couple hrs on that account- In the section I have listed the item.
7. Sign out- come back couple hours later to check up on the account and browse more on Amazon.

Just make sure the account you create- have very different passwords then the previous accounts, also the emails.

ftasignal 02-01-2011 02:48 PM

I am getting the same problem with amazon I have the book and also I am not new to making accounts so it looks like amazon found a way to tracking VCC cards , now I am so pissed off right now lost quite few accounts ,

anyone here have any info on this now problem ?

jinkh82 02-01-2011 02:51 PM

1. create new name, store name, new email address, new mail address, create google voice account
2. create VMware w/ brand new OS
3. change new mac address and router mac address from my oiginal computer
4. change mac address in VMware as well (#3 and #4 is that same new mac address)
5. once i verify that I got a new ip address i go into VMware account that I've created and login to amazon
6. create a new account w/ all the new information including new amazon VCC
7. go to seller account and list any book items w/ high price to create seller aco****
8. verify through phone used w/ google forwarding.
9. The END!

Everything is different even password and email. I don't know how they link my account. I didn't even put my bank account. By the way the seller's account that i've created three weeks and sold lots of items, also got linked today. So something is up but don't know which step I'm missing. Is it possibly the google voice? I don't even have a slight of clue right now and honestly don't know where to begin. I just found out that VCC is not the problem since the previous account was bought by different VCC seller. Maybe is it the email address? I tried to look up the email shipping notice from amazon using the original computer mac address no the new mac address created. Just to see if the order has come in. If the order is in place, i change it to my new mac address and VMware account and proceed w/ my order. any email sent from amazon, can they link account w/ it? if that's the case that's some really sophiticated system they created from amazon.

rsot 02-01-2011 03:04 PM

Are you ALWAYS listing the same thing? Same'ish text? Selling in categories that are not "proper" for your "new" account? Am az on has a lot of auto-blockers in place.

jinkh82 02-01-2011 03:13 PM

i'm sure that's not the problem since I tried to list some books when i first created. just to avoid vero items. as soon as i create seller's account they bloked me due to linked account. Same'ish text? not sure what you're asking if you're talking about item description? NO i haven't used any same description.

rsot 02-01-2011 03:18 PM

Then I guess my contribution is at an end - I don't use vmware so my experience is nil with that. What I do is diff user accounts, etc. Possibly your time + activity has become cyclical. Personally, I don't browse etc - list what I need to do then log.

Hercules 02-01-2011 03:42 PM

jinkh82 you don't mention a new user account for each new account. Did you forget to mention that?

rsot 02-01-2011 03:50 PM

He says he is using VMWare so I am guessing he does not need new user account action.

jeffweico 02-01-2011 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinkh82 (Post 201670)
Maybe is it the email address? I tried to look up the email shipping notice from amazon using the original computer mac address no the new mac address created. Just to see if the order has come in. If the order is in place, i change it to my new mac address and VMware account and proceed w/ my order. any email sent from amazon, can they link account w/ it? if that's the case that's some really sophiticated system they created from amazon.

What/Who are you using for email? If you pull up any emails from Amazon (or eBay) that contain ANY images (even tiny ones that you cannot see) on an old banned PC, then YES, they can link accounts that way.

This may or may not be the problem, but it the most obvious thing I have seen so far.

cherrqell 02-01-2011 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffweico (Post 201697)
What/Who are you using for email? If you pull up any emails from Amazon (or eBay) that contain ANY images (even tiny ones that you cannot see) on an old banned PC, then YES, they can link accounts that way.

This may or may not be the problem, but it the most obvious thing I have seen so far.


Someone mentioned on another thread that they may be getting linked by wireless mouse/keyboard? Perhaps a Mac address of one of your wireless printers? Could this be the source? I know I used my old wireless mouse to create new accounts, and they are still going strong.....for now.

Perhaps Amazon has a new security variable that we are unaware of that they are using to link accounts now.

MtnDew 02-01-2011 07:50 PM

its not your wireless keyboard mouse or wireless printer as long as the printer is behind your router. my guess is your mac address but you need to tell us how your doing it and what your using as internet source.

cherrqell 02-01-2011 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boogernaut (Post 201741)
its not your wireless keyboard mouse or wireless printer as long as the printer is behind your router. my guess is your mac address but you need to tell us how your doing it and what your using as internet source.

Please elaborate. What do you mean behind the router? Thanks

jinkh82 02-01-2011 11:45 PM

so let me elaborate what I mean by email address. Well first I just use my old pc which is banned long time ago to check what the items are sold using the new email address. I just access new email address to check up on any new orders that came in. Sometimes I open it just for curiosity. After then I would go to my new created VMware account (new amazon account) to actually print out shipping orders. But i would be really surprise if they have that kind of technology even to trace through emails. This is the only way i'm looking at on how they would link me.

alnev 02-02-2011 01:02 AM

Reading emails shouldn't be a problem as long as you disable all image downloads in you emails. If you do that, the tracking pixels don't load up in the email, so Amazon doesn't know if you opened the email or not.

jeffweico 02-02-2011 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alnev (Post 201808)
Reading emails shouldn't be a problem as long as you disable all image downloads in you emails. If you do that, the tracking pixels don't load up in the email, so Amazon doesn't know if you opened the email or not.

Just to clarify, please understand that most email providers have image downloading ENABLED by default. Gmail is an exception. But if this is enabled, then they can track you when the image is accessed.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SEE AN IMAGE FOR ONE TO EXIST!

The image can be ONE PIXEL. You would never notice it.

MtnDew 02-02-2011 01:25 AM

cherrqal as long as your printer is hooked to your network through your router and you change the router mac your fine

jinkh82 02-02-2011 01:50 AM

now i come to realize that it's not the email. i've seen the "you've sold an item" email and they don't have any image file or anything to trace it. Most likely it's the VCC that's causing the problem i believe.

jeffweico 02-02-2011 02:07 AM

I very much doubt it is the VCC. A VCC either works and comes back valid, or it does not work and comes back invalid. But it cannot link accounts.

jinkh82 02-02-2011 02:40 AM

then what's possibly going wrong? i'm still trying to figure it out. They linked my three new amazon account. They suspended within 2 hours of creating a seller's account. They also suspended my other three weeks old account. Not sure how they linked it? I understand that they can suspend my accounts since all three new account were created within two days interval but how did they link my old account that was running perfectly until this incident. That's my biggest mystery right now.

ftasignal 02-02-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinkh82 (Post 201841)
then what's possibly going wrong? i'm still trying to figure it out. They linked my three new amazon account. They suspended within 2 hours of creating a seller's account. They also suspended my other three weeks old account. Not sure how they linked it? I understand that they can suspend my accounts since all three new account were created within two days interval but how did they link my old account that was running perfectly until this incident. That's my biggest mystery right now.

Bro I have the same problem and I just dont know what to think anymore I too am also at a dead end as they linked my 1 week old accounts also I am using the same steps you did also Vmplayer and VPN and with in 2hrs or less its suspended .. hmmmmmmm

cherrqell 02-02-2011 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinkh82 (Post 201841)
then what's possibly going wrong? i'm still trying to figure it out. They linked my three new amazon account. They suspended within 2 hours of creating a seller's account. They also suspended my other three weeks old account. Not sure how they linked it? I understand that they can suspend my accounts since all three new account were created within two days interval but how did they link my old account that was running perfectly until this incident. That's my biggest mystery right now.

I would go out a get a new used cheap computer, and use it exclusively for these Amazon accounts. It seems that something on the computer is linking these accounts. At least thats what I did, and I am having no issues with my accounts. Or you cann go to a public computer terminal..ie library, and set up an account using your steps, and see if your account lasts. Then you can narrow down the problem.

ftasignal 02-02-2011 10:14 AM

I open another account on amazon today on another PC netbook I have a new VPN , Used my same comcast cable modem and router changed the MAC on my router and got a phone number from google and VCC from 123 and suspended in less than 1hr ........

:confused: anymore ideas would help ...

jeffweico 02-02-2011 10:59 AM

VPN's are NOT a good idea! eBay and Amazon don't like those.

ftasignal:

Did the email you got from Amazon say you were linked to a suspended account, or that you simply didn't pass their seller review process?

ftasignal 02-02-2011 11:05 AM

the item was listed and within 1hr it was removed ,my account got blocked , everytime try to log in I can not also never got any emails stating the reason why my item was removed or received any emails from amazon that they suspended it .....right now as it stands I just can not log back in my account its blocked and no emails stating why .....

bnd 02-02-2011 04:35 PM

Hmm, Did you do all this also?

-Did you delete those pesky little things called - flash cookies? in c:/doc files/app data/macromedia..
-Did you spoof ALL* mac adresses, not just the NIC?
-Did you try use browsers/OPs different than the host while using VM?
-did you try using a normal gift/prepaid card or just VCCs bought from the same seller?

123 02-02-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ftasignal (Post 201916)
I open another account on amazon today on another PC netbook I have a new VPN , Used my same comcast cable modem and router changed the MAC on my router and got a phone number from google and VCC from 123 and suspended in less than 1hr ........

:confused: anymore ideas would help ...

Was probably the vpn you used, probably another person used the same ip you used on that vpn for amazon and was already banned or that vpn is just blacklisted in general. Thats one of the major problems with using a vpn.

ftasignal 02-03-2011 02:38 AM

hey jinkh82 did you run like any wireless connection with your setup ? meaning anything wireless ...

jinkh82 02-03-2011 03:23 AM

no nothing wirless. my computer is connected with router.

MtnDew 02-03-2011 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 123 (Post 202044)
Was probably the vpn you used, probably another person used the same ip you used on that vpn for amazon and was already banned or that vpn is just blacklisted in general. Thats one of the major problems with using a vpn.

im voting for this they must know your on a vpn and dont like it...btw make 1 using your normal isp (internet service provider) and change the ip.

or its gotta be a mac your not spoofing or disabling...do a ipconig/all or just hit ipconig on smac and make sure the only one active is your wired connection.

ftasignal 02-03-2011 11:33 AM

I also believe its a MAC address some where your not disabling I had the same problem and also I found the MAC that was causing my accounts to get link and suspended/blocked its was the MAC on my internal wireless card , I stop using the wireless card and disable it now I am using a direct connection from my router to my Laptop and amazon is up and running so far so good hope this info helps..

jinkh82 02-04-2011 02:14 AM

i do use direct connection from my router to my computer but somehow mine still doesn't work. they just suspended another account. I went to command prompt to make sure the mac address has changed and my ip address. Everything did change but somehow they are linking me. just to make sure. do i need to change VMware mac address as well when I create a new VMware account? what i usually do is i change my original mac address along with VMware mac address so that the new changed mac address is identical. By the way I did disable "VMware Network Adapter VMnet8" and VMware Network Adapter VMnet1" Is this the cause of the problem maybe?

MERMAID 02-04-2011 03:08 AM

I follow the instructions aspkin book, and never amazon block my account (they block 2 But By my mistake) i used vm Last two MONTH i open many without problem. I think You make samethink wrong.:ranger:

MtnDew 02-04-2011 05:01 AM

ok im gonna try 1 more time for ya jink82? go through the steps you go through to setup account :) are you using smac or tmac?

alnev 02-04-2011 11:57 AM

Did you do everything what's on page 14 and 15 in the Amazon Ghost book?
The idea is that you can have only 1 active MAC in your VMWare OS.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinkh82 (Post 202384)
i do use direct connection from my router to my computer but somehow mine still doesn't work. they just suspended another account. I went to command prompt to make sure the mac address has changed and my ip address. Everything did change but somehow they are linking me. just to make sure. do i need to change VMware mac address as well when I create a new VMware account? what i usually do is i change my original mac address along with VMware mac address so that the new changed mac address is identical. By the way I did disable "VMware Network Adapter VMnet8" and VMware Network Adapter VMnet1" Is this the cause of the problem maybe?


jinkh82 02-25-2011 12:30 AM

alright I think i need help. anyone know if i should disable network adpter in VMware OS or the original computer? and one more question. when i go into router setting i usually clone the mac address from the original computer's mac address. is this ok?

alnev 02-25-2011 10:36 AM

1. I disable everything in the guest operating system and leave only 1 MAC active.
2. Cloning should be alright, but it's better to change the values manually and hit SAVE; take a note of them and every time you log in to your stealth accounts, make sure you are using the values you used before. This way, Amazon will see that you are using the same router.

MtnDew 02-26-2011 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinkh82 (Post 207500)
alright I think i need help. anyone know if i should disable network adpter in VMware OS or the original computer? and one more question. when i go into router setting i usually clone the mac address from the original computer's mac address. is this ok?

change it manually...also make sure you dont have any active macs and disable ALL BUT the wired 1 :)

nobody999 03-01-2011 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jinkh82 (Post 201679)
i'm sure that's not the problem since I tried to list some books when i first created. just to avoid vero items. as soon as i create seller's account they bloked me due to linked account. Same'ish text? not sure what you're asking if you're talking about item description? NO i haven't used any same description.

i would contact amazon and tell them this is your first account, there are times when amazon did a suspension due to linkage but then retracted the suspension. happened 1 time to me/


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