VMWare Player & Computer MAC address ?

temptation84 · #1 05-17-2012

I have not seemed to have problems with this yet but am looking for an answer as I do not want to have problems with it in the future.

For each of my new Amazon accounts I give them each a new VMWare Player operating system, change my MAC address of my router and get a new IP address. However I have not been changing my COMPUTERS MAC address (apparently I missed this part in the ghost book) BUT I was wondering why the accounts haven't been brought down then so I went and check the computer MAC address on the host computer and then re-checked the computer MAC address on each of my virtual Machine account and they do not seem to match.... so does VMWare player give a new computer MAC address with each new operating system installed or something? Or am I not looking at the right thing for the computer MAC address....... to check I go into "start" "run" type in CMD and the type in GETMAC......

Hopefully somebody with a bit more technical know how that I can answer this for me.

Thanks for any help.

anon5o1 · #2 05-18-2012

Kind of similar of the question I have on a thread I have opened earlier today:
http://www.aspkin.com/forums/amazon-...-required.html

From my understanding MAC Addresses only readable after one hop. Meaning PC <> PC <> ROUTER. Since you have changed your router's MAC Address per VMWare account the MAC Address that Amazon sees is only your router's MAC Address (I can be wrong).

How many accounts have you created with stealth? Also, how long have you had them up for?

temptation84 · #3 05-18-2012

Yeah just the same question, guess I was too tired last night and missed the thread you started

It was always my understanding from what I have read that they cam only see the last connecting device which would be the routers IP and MAC address. However after reading Amazon Ghost over again as a refresher I realized I had forgotten that he talks about changing the COMPUTERS MAC address itself.

This had me a bit worried as I have not been doing this and do have a number of ghost accounts going already (no take downs yet fortunately)....

However with a good nights rest and a fresh mind this morning I did some more research and thought..... DUH! Why not just ask VMWare..... so thats what I did!

You can check out the answer I found on their website here.

According to this write up, each virtual machine has its own unique MAC address!!!! YAY!! And this unique MAC address will never change unless the location of the virtual machine is moved to another location on the host computer.

So.... it seems that we have been doing everything just fine (if my understanding of this write up is correct)

However I think I will begin tracking what MAC addresses get assigned to each VM as this does not take a lot of work and would be tragic if it re-used a MAC address somewhere along the line.... cheap and easy insurance!

PS - I saw you say in your original write up that your using a VPN...... personally it seems to me it would be best to stay away from that and get yourself a dynamic IP address..... seems people using VPNs get shut down eventually and fairly quickly.

anon5o1 · #4 05-18-2012

Good find temptation84 on the VMWare explanation on how to manually assign a MAC Address per virtual machine account on the host.

In regards to your PS, do you mean Static IP addressing? Because dynamic IP address means every time you log in you will be issued a new IP address per VPN login. In comparison, an Static IP address means that every time I connect to the VPN that I know the IP address will be the same.

Update:
http://www.aspkin.com/forums/amazon/...-vpn-work.html

Hm, looks like I may want to reconsider using a VPN. So with your set-up you would connect to the VMWare associated to that AZ account (since computer's MAC address is already unique; thank you VMWare), go into your router's setting and change the MAC Address), then connect to the AZ account (unique IP address)? Looks like your route works because all your accounts are still live. How long have they been live for?

temptation84 · #5 05-19-2012

Yeah i really havnt seen too many good things about using a VPN i never have used one and likely wont I always use a dynamic IP. Put together a spreadsheet, choose a MAC address for your router for each account, and track the IP addresses you use with each account so you dont accidentaly use the same one on two accounts. Its rare you will get assigned a same IP when switching account but it WILL happen eventually (maybe once in 100 switches).......... i have a couple accounts over a year and a bunch in the 0-12 month range. Then again i never sell any foo foo stuff so im not making myself a target by any means at all.

anon5o1 · #6 05-19-2012

Yeah, I think I won't go the VPN route. I was planning on having 4 computers who was on an VPN connection and one is dedicated to each AZ account.

Wouldn't AZ know if all you do is spoofing the MAC address of the computer and router? Reason being, it's issuing you a new IP address and MAC address; however, you are still broadcasting your real ISP and location of the server? Possibly you are using internet tethering, dial-up, or USB dongles?

What do you mean by, "foo foo stuff?"