My Amazon stealth methods - Help

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by AmaStealth

-8 accounts from different areas around my state.
-Yes, the VCC's are from the same company, but why would that affect the accounts? That would be like linking two amazon accounts because two people use the same bank.

-Yes, the IP's are coming from the same ISP, but again, how would that affect the account? Considering there are tons of people using TW Cable..

-I didn't list 7,000 products.. I only list 4-6.

-On each new account I tried listing new items.. different from the last.

What was the time frame of the account creation?

Did you spread their making over several days?

What is the numerical sequence with your self-generated VCCs?
Is there a gap between the creation of cards for each account.

What is the range of your IP like?

In other words, can you look at a printout of what you have made and say without doubt, 8 different people made these accounts?

If you can not say that, your creation pattern is linking you.

These are the fiddly tricks of stealth. Never look like an suspended you.

[AmaStealth]

Originally Posted by GreenBean™

What was the time frame of the account creation?

Did you spread their making over several days?

What is the numerical sequence with your self-generated VCCs?
Is there a gap between the creation of cards for each account.

What is the range of your IP like?

In other words, can you look at a printout of what you have made and say without doubt, 8 different people made these accounts?

If you can not say that, your creation pattern is linking you.

These are the fiddly tricks of stealth. Never look like an suspended you.

The accounts were created over a couple day basis, that may have been what triggered the blocking of accounts.

The IP keeps being routed to one location.. regardless of the MAC address change.. So I started making accounts that have addresses within my city.

These current accounts were made using a new method, so hopefully everything is back on track :D

[GreenBean]

Creation method is linking you.

I am so sorry.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by AmaStealth

-8 accounts from different areas around my state.


-Yes, the IP's are coming from the same ISP, but again, how would that affect the account? Considering there are tons of people using TW Cable..


-On each new account I tried listing new items.. different from the last.

Another bad link if trying to pretend to be 'new' but stealth.

100% of 8 accounts with the same ISP is going to flag accounts.

Can you consider tethering or a dongle.

Too many things almost the same.

[rsot]

Originally Posted by AmaStealth

Well I have a few accounts scheduled for withdrawal next week, so I'll keep this thread updated.

Holding my breath on this - the big issue is that as GB has indicated, the heavy link will lead to bad issues...keep us posted

[barrycruan]

this is my concern and is why I kept asking about your IP address

"New IP/MAC address (usually the last couple numbers are altered)"

If you mean the only the last THREE numbers are altered then that is how amazon are linking you and I would put my house on it. The last three numbers are in most cases unique to each computer or network, but they are normally on the SAME network.

If you are creating accounts all in the same area and the IP address is the same but for the last 3 numbers, you are pretty much telling amazon you are the same person.

I dont know how you have got away with this for so long or if something has changed with your internet provider but you really need to have a completely unique IP.

With more established accounts I dont think this would be enough to get you suspended, but on a new account it is a death sentence

[TonyAlmeida]

Some people came here seek for advices don't want to listen, instead of try to prove that they are doing the right thing but Ama zon is wrong when kick them out.

[rsot]

Since you are having big problems OP, drop that 7k listing deal down to lower amounts - time has come to vary and experiment. You cant go at this hard without changing the pattern.

[TonyAlmeida]

rsot,

the OP didn't list 7K listing. It from another person

[metatrade]

Originally Posted by GreenBean™

Another bad link if trying to pretend to be 'new' but stealth.

100% of 8 accounts with the same ISP is going to flag accounts.

Can you consider tethering or a dongle.

Too many things almost the same.

Would they not see the ISP with a dongle ?

[AmaStealth]

Good feedback guys, thanks a lot.

I have recently installed a land line phone in my house, so I'm considering using dial-up internet for my new accounts.

What do you guys think?

[n8zzz]

If berrycruan is right then that seems like a logical solution. You could go with 4g dongle as well, I really don't see too much of a benefit going dial up over dongle unless going for mass account creation. Still, it will most likely fix the problem I think. Good luck!

[rsot]

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida

rsot,

the OP didn't list 7K listing. It from another person

You're right Tony - that was nebuspp - sorry - thanks

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by n8zzz

If berrycruan is right then that seems like a logical solution. You could go with 4g dongle as well, I really don't see too much of a benefit going dial up over dongle unless going for mass account creation. Still, it will most likely fix the problem I think. Good luck!

Make the quantum leap to thinking stealth

A variety of options must be used to appear different

It is that simple

[user3657]

Originally Posted by barrycruan

this is my concern and is why I kept asking about your IP address

"New IP/MAC address (usually the last couple numbers are altered)"

If you mean the only the last THREE numbers are altered then that is how amazon are linking you and I would put my house on it. The last three numbers are in most cases unique to each computer or network, but they are normally on the SAME network.

If you are creating accounts all in the same area and the IP address is the same but for the last 3 numbers, you are pretty much telling amazon you are the same person.

I dont know how you have got away with this for so long or if something has changed with your internet provider but you really need to have a completely unique IP.

With more established accounts I dont think this would be enough to get you suspended, but on a new account it is a death sentence

I would disagree this would cause someone to get linked but might aid in Amazons math to link an account. There is no rhyme to how networks can hand out IPs. I have gotten the same ip besides the last 3 octets and have also gotten a completely whole different set of numbers at home. And setting up clients with static addresses I have seen companys hand out matching sets or totally different sets of numbers even though they are on the same network.

I updated my CC this week on Amazon and there was a notice that prepaid cards are not allowed. That could be a flag. They can very well route that back to the same issuer, seeing some of the same items listed, being in the same location(IP location). This is what is linking you I would say.

I will put money on if you formatted the PC, choose a different cc option, did not list any of the same items, and even using the same ISP you would be golden.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by user3657

I will put money on if you formatted the PC, choose a different cc option, did not list any of the same items, and even using the same ISP you would be golden.

We are not going to run book on your premise.

OP's description of account creation is not viable for amazon.

Do you misunderstand the meaning of stealth?

[rsot]

Originally Posted by AmaStealth

Good feedback guys, thanks a lot.

I have recently installed a land line phone in my house, so I'm considering using dial-up internet for my new accounts.

What do you guys think?

I use this option - with unlimited long distance access....

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by AmaStealth

Good feedback guys, thanks a lot.

I have recently installed a land line phone in my house, so I'm considering using dial-up internet for my new accounts.

What do you guys think?

At the same time (almost) you asked this question, this thread started.

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/amazon/...p-problem.html

Read it as it has info you may not know.

[TonyAlmeida]

Originally Posted by GreenBean™

At the same time (almost) you asked this question, this thread started.

http://www.aspkin.com/forums/amazon/...p-problem.html

Read it as it has info you may not know.

OP can't read your post GB this is amazon-x folder