My Amazon stealth methods - Help

[AmaStealth]

Hello everyone!





The reason I'm posting this thread is to get a little bit of advice on why my accounts keep getting deleted. I have been stealthing for over 3 years now, and just recently have my accounts been scrutinized by Amazon.

I have never had an issue in the past, so this is puzzling to me..

Here is what I do to create a new account:

Things I gather:
-Prepaid cell phone (Verizon, no credit check)
-New first and last name
-New address (usually in a different city, but within close proximity to my location)
-New birthdate
-New gmail email
-VCC (I create my own online)
-New IP/MAC address (usually the last couple numbers are altered)
-New bank account
-New computer user/cleared cache/cookies just in case.

After all that, I go through the process of creating my Amazon seller account..

After 8 days I list products, but shortly after my accounts are closed by Amazon.. No warning, and just an email saying I'm doing something fraudulent.

What is the problem?

[nebuspp]

Are you listing the same products? I tested the whole products theory out recently and went in with a 50% ratio of random products to products on a suspended account and got the account linked suspension within 6 hours...I had 7k random products and 7k of my old products.

[JamesNorth101]

Are you listing the same items over and over again?

Are you opening accounts in the same state as previous ones?

Are you clearing the flash data?

[TonyAlmeida]

VCC (I create my own online)

Is this from BOA? or else?

[rsot]

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101

Are you listing the same items over and over again?

This is BIG OP...Az looks at patterns and listing in categories

[AmaStealth]

-I have tried listing different products to no avail. Everything from toilet paper to ipads.
-No, it's not BOA, it's a prepaid visa company.

[TonyAlmeida]

Originally Posted by AmaStealth

-I have tried listing different products to no avail. Everything from toilet paper to ipads.
-No, it's not BOA, it's a prepaid visa company.

That maybe your problem there but since you don't want to share what you are using and nobody know for sure

[AmaStealth]

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida

That maybe your problem there but since you don't want to share what you are using and nobody know for sure

Well I have an account I just sold $100 on, and it's still open, so we'll see..

[GreenBean]

Wait until the account is open 3 months before making calls like that


Your VCC choice may be blacklisted

How long have you used this company

Did these deletions start out of nowhere?

[TonyAlmeida]

Why not spend less than $5 on the Vanilla card to try out something that know work for all others. Could be like GB said, your VCC provider is blacklist, maybe

Originally Posted by AmaStealth

Well I have an account I just sold $100 on, and it's still open, so we'll see..

[AmaStealth]

Originally Posted by GreenBean™

Wait until the account is open 3 months before making calls like that


Your VCC choice may be blacklisted

How long have you used this company

Did these deletions start out of nowhere?

It may, but others have used it as well with success.

I have used this company for over 2 years now.

The deletions started after I created 8 new accounts, all about 40 miles from the city I'm living in.

[GreenBean]

Originally Posted by AmaStealth

The deletions started after I created 8 new accounts, all about 40 miles from the city I'm living in.

Bots are detecting patterns and are zapping your efforts.

[machine1]

how are you listing the 7k products ? amazon listing template? my suggestion to you is pass your first month listing 30 items get some ratings like 5 then on your second month add 200 items then 3rd month go strong .

[jeffweico]

7,000 products is a lot to list, volume wise. I think I see the problem. You mentioned that you are selling 7,000 products and adding another "random" 7,000 products. Amazon is seeing some similarities here:

• 8 accounts from the same area
• 8 accounts using the same VCC credit card issuer
• 8 accounts using the same ISP, but with different IP's
• All of them listing more than 7,000 products
• 50% (or more) of the items match what is on the other accounts

The odds of 8 different sellers from the same area having accounts that share these similarities are very small. So, they know the accounts are stealth.

Unless, of course, I am misunderstanding your previous posts???

[nebuspp]

Originally Posted by jeffweico

7,000 products is a lot to list, volume wise. I think I see the problem. You mentioned that you are selling 7,000 products and adding another "random" 7,000 products. Amazon is seeing some similarities here:

• 8 accounts from the same area
• 8 accounts using the same VCC credit card issuer
• 8 accounts using the same ISP, but with different IP's
• All of them listing more than 7,000 products
• 50% (or more) of the items match what is on the other accounts

The odds of 8 different sellers from the same area having accounts that share these similarities are very small. So, they know the accounts are stealth.

Unless, of course, I am misunderstanding your previous posts???

The OP wasn't listing 7k products, that was me just sharing how I believe I recently got a suspension. Those patterns certainly seem like they would trigger some suspicions.

[AmaStealth]

Originally Posted by GreenBean™

Bots are detecting patterns and are zapping your efforts.

I'm definitely thinking it's "bots" who are deleting my accounts. I know for a fact a human being isn't taking the time to shut me down..

[jeffweico]

Originally Posted by nebuspp

The OP wasn't listing 7k products, that was me just sharing how I believe I recently got a suspension. Those patterns certainly seem like they would trigger some suspicions.

My mistake. But here are still enough similarities to link the accounts. Especially if there was any inventory overlap. Since the OP was operating successfully for 3 years, my guess would be that something caused a human being at Amazon to look at the accounts and they saw the similarities.

[AmaStealth]

Originally Posted by jeffweico

7,000 products is a lot to list, volume wise. I think I see the problem. You mentioned that you are selling 7,000 products and adding another "random" 7,000 products. Amazon is seeing some similarities here:

• 8 accounts from the same area
• 8 accounts using the same VCC credit card issuer
• 8 accounts using the same ISP, but with different IP's
• All of them listing more than 7,000 products
• 50% (or more) of the items match what is on the other accounts

The odds of 8 different sellers from the same area having accounts that share these similarities are very small. So, they know the accounts are stealth.

Unless, of course, I am misunderstanding your previous posts???

-8 accounts from different areas around my state.
-Yes, the VCC's are from the same company, but why would that affect the accounts? That would be like linking two amazon accounts because two people use the same bank.

-Yes, the IP's are coming from the same ISP, but again, how would that affect the account? Considering there are tons of people using TW Cable..

-I didn't list 7,000 products.. I only list 4-6.

-On each new account I tried listing new items.. different from the last.

[AmaStealth]

Originally Posted by jeffweico

My mistake. But here are still enough similarities to link the accounts. Especially if there was any inventory overlap. Since the OP was operating successfully for 3 years, my guess would be that something caused a human being at Amazon to look at the accounts and they saw the similarities.

Well here's why I think it's a bot instead of a human being.

I was logged in to an Amazon account one day, was checking a few things, then decided to "log out" and check another account.. Well, after I logged out I realized I needed to do one last thing, and when I tried to log in 30 seconds later, BAM! Deleted!

[jeffweico]

If the accounts are all within the same area, even if not the same city, that could be enough to get the accounts flagged. If the accounts were far enough away, then the IP's should reflect those areas.

Any ONE of these things is not enough to link the accounts, but taken together, they could. The thing is, we will never know for sure exactly what did it. But I recommend making future accounts as different as possible.

[AmaStealth]

Originally Posted by jeffweico

If the accounts are all within the same area, even if not the same city, that could be enough to get the accounts flagged. If the accounts were far enough away, then the IP's should reflect those areas.

Any ONE of these things is not enough to link the accounts, but taken together, they could. The thing is, we will never know for sure exactly what did it. But I recommend making future accounts as different as possible.

Well I have a few accounts scheduled for withdrawal next week, so I'll keep this thread updated.

[GreenBean]

Imagine a giant octopus.....

Its head is amazon.

Its arms are your (stealth) accounts.

The head dislikes parts of the arms. It removes them.

End of accounts.