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Amazon tax verification process Hello everyone
My personal account was suspend from amazon 3 years ago and i never give them my SSN.
I open a llc and use ein number to register as professional
When i do the registration process amazon send my to the tax interview where they ask my name and last name.
I worry to add my name since the will most likely link to my suspended account.
Its possible to register only the company name without putting my name on it ?
Another question is that i have two name and i could i use only one.
Like for example if my name its Jean pierre guettiere i could register as jean guettiere or Jean guettiere?
What you guys think ? |
Re: Amazon tax verification process anyone with a good heart help me outt with this ? |
| Gamefreak | 08-14-2015 05:20 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process you will first need to register a company with the state or u can get in first the register company with state in the name u use to register to get the ein |
Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by Gamefreak
(Post 695105)
you will first need to register a company with the state or u can get in first the register company with state in the name u use to register to get the ein |
I need to pass the tax interview and they will ask my name and my last name
What i should put there since i was suspended before?
Also for the credit card verification its possible to add the company info ?
For examble my name is John Carl Guettierez
i create the company Called Carl guetierrez llc and i create a debit card with CARL Guetierrez llc. name
on the tax interview they ask my company name and my first and last name
should i do like below:
Company name Carl guetierrez llc
First Name: Carl
Last Name: guetierrez
On the credit card verification i will add this
First Name: Carl
Last Name: guetierrez
Can some tell me if this is correct ? or i should add my real name on the tax interview? |
Re: Amazon tax verification process could anyone please help me out with this.
I really need to know asap. i dont wanna throw away $200 for llc |
| jeffweico | 08-15-2015 06:54 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process OK...
First of all, Amazon CANNOT see the name on a credit card, so no worries there. YES, You can leave out one of your names and it will probably fool Amazon, especially since you never entered your SSN before. But you can use a completely made up name as well.
While Amazon will ask for your name on the tax interview, if you are giving them an EIN for a BUSINESS ACCOUNT, then the information they send to the IRS for verification is just your BUSINESS NAME and your EIN. In this case the IRS will match the records that way. They do NOT verify the individual name associated with an EIN for a multi-member LLC - which is what most people use for stealth.
And, you do NOT have to set up the LLC first. You can get the EIN without actually having formed the LLC. That way, if the account goes down quickly, you can just cancel the EIN. If it looks like the account will last, THEN you can set up the LLC. That way, you do not spend $200 for the LLC without knowing if it will work out or not. |
| cast76 | 08-15-2015 07:25 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process This will not work if I open a single member LLC? I was thinking of doing single member. |
Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 695408)
OK...
First of all, Amazon CANNOT see the name on a credit card, so no worries there. YES, You can leave out one of your names and it will probably fool Amazon, especially since you never entered your SSN before. But you can use a completely made up name as well.
While Amazon will ask for your name on the tax interview, if you are giving them an EIN for a BUSINESS ACCOUNT, then the information they send to the IRS for verification is just your BUSINESS NAME and your EIN. In this case the IRS will match the records that way. They do NOT verify the individual name associated with an EIN for a multi-member LLC - which is what most people use for stealth.
And, you do NOT have to set up the LLC first. You can get the EIN without actually having formed the LLC. That way, if the account goes down quickly, you can just cancel the EIN. If it looks like the account will last, THEN you can set up the LLC. That way, you do not spend $200 for the LLC without knowing if it will work out or not. | Ok for the tax innterview its clear now. i really appreciate you response thank you.
The problem is the new address. Since the bank required ein number and llc documents to release a debit card.
I was searching all over the forum but couldnt fine any answer how to get a credit card with the new virtual address i already bought.
Any idea ? |
| jeffweico | 08-15-2015 07:28 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process I will PM you regarding that. I know someone who has VCC's that still work for Amazon. |
Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by cast76
(Post 695419)
This will not work if I open a single member LLC? I was thinking of doing single member. | I know that for a Single member will ask your first name and last name. |
| jeffweico | 08-15-2015 07:33 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by cast76
(Post 695419)
This will not work if I open a single member LLC? I was thinking of doing single member. | I have read conflicting posts about this. But the SAFE THING is to do a multi-member LLC. Or at least check off the box on the IRS site saying it is a multi-member LLC when you get the EIN. Clerical errors are clerical errors.
The thing about a single member LLC is that since you would be the only beneficiary, it is considered a "disregarded entity" for tax purposes. I do not know for sure if this means the IRS will verify with the individual name you supply them or the business name. Again, I have seen posts claiming it goes both ways, so I have always used the multi-member option. |
| jeffweico | 08-15-2015 07:35 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by pomp
(Post 695423)
I know that for a Single member will ask your first name and last name. | Well, they will ask for that no matter WHAT type of business account you say you have. But what matters is how they verify that with the IRS. |
| cast76 | 08-15-2015 07:35 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process and if I don't have another member to add to the LLC, can I just make up a name or I would need full info for that other member, like social and stuff? |
Re: Amazon tax verification process single member its more risky i think
you can select partnership in the tax interview even if you have a single.
This way they dont verify your full name.
So i think you could put a similiar name like jeff instead of jeffry with you exact last name . |
| jeffweico | 08-15-2015 07:41 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process I wouldn't file any false documents. But the other member could be anyone you know and they could own 1% of the business as a silent investor. Or your mistakenly check the box for Multi-Member on the application for the EIN. Many people who file do not know the difference. If the IRS ever asks about it you could say that you made a mistake and correct it. Since it does not change you tax rate, it is not a big deal to them. And if they correct the mistake it is no big deal,since the account is already verified. |
Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 695431)
I wouldn't file any false documents. But the other member could be anyone you know and they could own 1% of the business as a silent investor. Or your mistakenly check the box for Multi-Member on the application for the EIN. Many people who file do not know the difference. If the IRS ever asks about it you could say that you made a mistake and correct it. Since it does not change you tax rate, it is not a big deal to them. And if they correct the mistake it is no big deal,since the account is already verified. | So if i get it right with a partnership i can add my real name on tax interview and amazon will not link or ban my new account becuase they only check the business name with irs.
correct ? |
Re: Amazon tax verification process another question jeff.
what about the bank account for the deposit?
Amazon is checking the name of the owner of that bank account ?
thanks a lot for your help |
| jeffweico | 08-15-2015 08:06 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by pomp
(Post 695440)
another question jeff.
what about the bank account for the deposit?
Amazon is checking the name of the owner of that bank account ?
thanks a lot for your help | Amazon will chck the name of the BUSINESS against the EIN to make sure they match. The IRS, in this case, will NOT verify your real individual name, only the business name.
And Amazon cannot verify the bank name, they are only verifying the routing and account number and the fact that the account is an active account. |
| cast76 | 08-15-2015 08:47 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Thank you much Jeff, you've been really helpful |
Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 695442)
Amazon will chck the name of the BUSINESS against the EIN to make sure they match. The IRS, in this case, will NOT verify your real individual name, only the business name.
And Amazon cannot verify the bank name, they are only verifying the routing and account number and the fact that the account is an active account. | Hi jeff,
Did you know if amazon can link account by checking the llc online personal name and last name.
Here in florida anyone can see public records of you full name and business address and since my full name was banned they can check it in 30 sec online
Any suggestions? |
| yankee | 08-18-2015 11:11 AM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by cast76
(Post 695419)
This will not work if I open a single member LLC? I was thinking of doing single member. | Yes it will. Most people on this forum have single member LLCs including some of my accounts and no they don't link to your name.
A multi member can/may be better for tax reasons but it make no difference for stealth.
For some reason some members keep thinking that a single member LLC is the same as a sole proprietor and they are not.
The multi member verses single member has to do with tax implications such as self employment taxes and legal issues such as in some states how the charging order is handled. |
| yankee | 08-18-2015 11:13 AM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by pomp
(Post 696267)
Hi jeff,
Did you know if amazon can link account by checking the llc online personal name and last name.
Here in florida anyone can see public records of you full name and business address and since my full name was banned they can check it in 30 sec online
Any suggestions? | Anyone can look up the owners of all companies in 49 of the 50 states and most companies in the 50th state as well.
Amazon can look up the owners IF you give them a reason to but at that point you will be suspended anyways. It would take a potential law suit or significant debt collection for them to do that. |
Re: Amazon tax verification process In tax interview they ask this Please enter your Employer Identification Number (EIN). The EIN that you provide must match the "Name" line in the taxpayer information section. Do not enter the EIN that matches the name you entered on the "Business or trade name" line, if applicable.
So they ckeck the personal name not the business name.
that a problem . So amazon is checking your personal name matching with irs and the irs is checking the business name??
Im confused |
| yankee | 08-18-2015 12:48 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by pomp
(Post 696285)
In tax interview they ask this Please enter your Employer Identification Number (EIN). The EIN that you provide must match the "Name" line in the taxpayer information section. Do not enter the EIN that matches the name you entered on the "Business or trade name" line, if applicable.
So they ckeck the personal name not the business name.
that a problem . So amazon is checking your personal name matching with irs and the irs is checking the business name??
Im confused | No they dont check the personal name. Fact of the matter is if you enter a personal name and the EIN it will not match.
Dont make this complicated. There is thousands of us on this forum who have accounts right? I guess we all got lucky...
Name: Marc Smith
Company name: The name of your company.
Company EIN: The company EIN.
It is that simple. Nothing more to it. |
Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 696303)
No they dont check the personal name. Fact of the matter is if you enter a personal name and the EIN it will not match.
Dont make this complicated. There is thousands of us on this forum who have accounts right? I guess we all got lucky...
Name: Marc Smith
Company name: The name of your company.
Company EIN: The company EIN.
It is that simple. Nothing more to it. | Ok i did like you suggest but know in legal entity its showing the personal name instead the company name .
It that normal ?
they will not check my name and ban me after they see it ? |
| yankee | 08-18-2015 02:39 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by pomp
(Post 696317)
Ok i did like you suggest but know in legal entity its showing the personal name instead the company name .
It that normal ?
they will not check my name and ban me after they see it ? | Im confused altogether.
Make up a name for the contact name
and the company name, use your company name.
If it is wrong, edit it. |
Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 696320)
Im confused altogether.
Make up a name for the contact name
and the company name, use your company name.
If it is wrong, edit it. | I use another name and wasnt working
ALso adding the company name in the name field wasnt working either
i had to put my name in order to pass the tax verification.
Legal Entity cannot be changed.
So how we can make sure after the tax interview that our personal name are not showing in legal entity ?? |
| yankee | 08-18-2015 02:44 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process So where it says: Federal Tax Classification: Choose your entity.
Name: YOUR COMPANY NAME
Business name or trade name optional: Nothing
Address: Stealth address if your company address is on a banned account.
etc... |
| yankee | 08-18-2015 02:46 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process If it does not match the IRS then in a few weeks or months amazon will make you correct it. |
Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 696324)
So where it says: Federal Tax Classification: Choose your entity.
Name: YOUR COMPANY NAME
Business name or trade name optional: Nothing
Address: Company address
etc... | Federal Tax Classification: partnership
Name: company name
Business name or trade name optional: Nothing
Address: Company address
yes i did like this and i get refused
i had to change tha name field with my personal name .
so you telling me that you add the company name on the name field and it worked out ? |
Re: Amazon tax verification process if you check in legal entity what its showing in your account ?
Business name or personal name ?
Thats a problem if they know you personal name of the company.
I will get banned im sure. |
| yankee | 08-18-2015 03:47 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by pomp
(Post 696327)
if you check in legal entity what its showing in your account ?
Business name or personal name ?
Thats a problem if they know you personal name of the company.
I will get banned im sure. | I never use my real name. Nobody ever said to use your real name.
When you sign up use a ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name. Any name. Ronald McDonald, Joe Smith, Octavian Zillafrasher, etc... Any ⊗⊗⊗⊗ name that you like.
Then BUSINESS NAME for tax interview. YOU are not the business.
You can not use anything other than your matching business name for your EIN.
Best Buy does not use a personal name right? Walmart would not use a personal name? Burger King? Mid Atlantic Archery Supplies? Ford Motor Group? Lowes? Home Depot?
Of course not because it is not a person. It is a legal business entity.
You have to use THE BUSINESS NAME for the EIN if not it wont pass the IRS. It is impossible to pass. That EIN goes to that business NOT to your name. You are nothing more than a share holder or member. Just like Home Depot is owned by shareholders.
Your name has nothing to do with any is of this. It is the business, not you.
Not sure how else to explain this. |
| yankee | 08-18-2015 03:49 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by pomp
(Post 696327)
if you check in legal entity what its showing in your account ?
Business name or personal name ?
Thats a problem if they know you personal name of the company.
I will get banned im sure. | my personal name is not found or ever typed in anywhere on Amazon. Never. Forget you even have a name when it comes to amazon, ebay. paypal or any other selling platform you are going to use your EIN on.
If you have to have a contact name, make one up. Think of it as a user name. |
| cast76 | 08-18-2015 07:43 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process wow that explained it perfectly yankee, thanks a lot bro. You are really helpful. I will be starting my stealth today, knock on wood |
| cast76 | 08-18-2015 07:45 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process One question though, you guys sign up for personal accounts and then upgrade to business once amazon asks for EIN or you start with business accounts? |
| yankee | 08-18-2015 07:49 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by cast76
(Post 696388)
One question though, you guys sign up for personal accounts and then upgrade to business once amazon asks for EIN or you start with business accounts? | That is how I handle it. Amazon will require tax info at exactly 50 transactions. You can then choose to create more accounts or add tax info based on the account, items sold etc..
Also personal accounts get paid every seven days with a 14 day average reserve. It may or may not be better for cashflow depending on how you sell and what you sell. |
Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 696389)
That is how I handle it. Amazon will require tax info at exactly 50 transactions. You can then choose to create more accounts or add tax info based on the account, items sold etc..
Also personal accounts get paid every seven days with a 14 day average reserve. It may or may not be better for cashflow depending on how you sell and what you sell. | I am finding that I need to enter in a new vcc EVERY amazon disbursement. I have 3 stealth account and with all of them, at disbursement time, they check the credit card and then temporarily limit my account until I enter in new credit card info...it is getting very expensive as I am needing 6 VCC's monthly.
Anyone else have this issue and how i can fix it ? |
| yankee | 09-07-2015 01:58 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by pomp
(Post 702633)
I am finding that I need to enter in a new vcc EVERY amazon disbursement. I have 3 stealth account and with all of them, at disbursement time, they check the credit card and then temporarily limit my account until I enter in new credit card info...it is getting very expensive as I am needing 6 VCC's monthly.
Anyone else have this issue and how i can fix it ? | Quite easily fixable. LEAVE funds on the account. It will be tested EVERY distribution. |
Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by yankee
(Post 702640)
Quite easily fixable. LEAVE funds on the account. It will be tested EVERY distribution. | leave money on the account its the the solution :confused:
makes no sense to me
this is what amazon said: Your funds transfer in the amount of xxx USD has been delayed because the credit or debit card information registered to your Amazon.com seller account is invalid. This information may be invalid because the card has expired or the billing address may have changed.
So if i dont add the new credit card they will never disburse the money.
Its there a credit that last of like mont at least? |
| yankee | 09-07-2015 02:11 PM | Re: Amazon tax verification process Quote:
Originally Posted by pomp
(Post 702642)
leave money on the account its the the solution :confused:
makes no sense to me
this is what amazon said: Your funds transfer in the amount of xxx USD has been delayed because the credit or debit card information registered to your Amazon.com seller account is invalid. This information may be invalid because the card has expired or the billing address may have changed.
So if i dont add the new credit card they will never disburse the money.
Its there a credit that last of like mont at least? | What is it that you dont understand? AMAZON will test charge EVERY distribution. YOU MUST LEAVE AVAILABLE FUNDS ON THE VCC if not it will fail every single distribution and you will have to add a new one.
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