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| timberland | 09-02-2015 03:34 PM | Mac Address Important or No? In the Amazon Ghost guide there is a very large section dedicated to changing your MAC address, however on the forums I often see users saying Amazon does not track MAC address.
Does Amazon actually tract MAC addresses? Is it necessary to obtain a new MAC address? |
| bartalion | 09-03-2015 06:52 AM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? no, they cant track mac |
| muzzie | 09-03-2015 06:55 AM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? MAC can't be tracked through the browser. Period. |
| timberland | 09-03-2015 09:45 AM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Is there a reason why there is such a large section dedicated to MAC addresses in Amazon Ghost? Does this mean I won't have to change the MAC address on my computer or my modem? |
| Taking The Micky | 09-03-2015 08:40 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Because the book is quite out of date. MAC is not tracked or logged. |
| muzzie | 09-04-2015 12:03 AM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Quote:
Originally Posted by timberland
(Post 701314)
Is there a reason why there is such a large section dedicated to MAC addresses in Amazon Ghost? Does this mean I won't have to change the MAC address on my computer or my modem? | A LONG time ago there were ways to reveal user's MAC address through the security holes of ancient browsers such as IE with ActiveX enabled. Now it is not possible. |
| cast76 | 09-05-2015 05:34 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? So now just creating new user accounts on your laptop will work right. New user accounts and new IP and that's it? |
| TOOKNAPA | 09-05-2015 07:14 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? yes, new account on laptop, new ip, new ID, new phone and banking info. I read somewhere you have to change the name of your computer, i don't know if it is necessary, but easy enough to do it.
I also bought the book few weeks ago and, even if it is very useful, it is too bad to not update it, that makes new user like you and me more confused. |
| cast76 | 09-05-2015 07:31 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Yes totally agree, the update would eliminate a lot of questions and mistakes. |
| guitarca18 | 09-07-2015 10:55 AM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? I'd still consider using vmware to create accounts. If you just use new use accounts on your pc other things will give you away like a combination of what fonts, browser version, and browser plugins you have. If those are always the same you'll have issues. |
| Callidus | 09-07-2015 10:57 AM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? I would also back that up and use VMware. Just creating new windows user accounts is not safe enough for my liking. Amount of testing I have done with it, creating just new user accounts I personally have found is not solid enough. |
| yankee | 09-07-2015 03:11 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Quote:
Originally Posted by Callidus
(Post 702611)
I would also back that up and use VMware. Just creating new windows user accounts is not safe enough for my liking. Amount of testing I have done with it, creating just new user accounts I personally have found is not solid enough. | And a lot of this is based on Amazons speculation. Amazon has no issues closing account because it MAY be someone else.
Have you tested this with TOTALLY different items on accounts?
Just curious. |
| ebayerOG | 09-07-2015 05:33 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? browser fingerprints are DEFINITELY a huge factor, along with screen resolution.
if you use different user accounts vs machines, switch up browser size, versions, everything you possibly can.
Amazon uses google's algorithm for account linking and I have successfully surpassed google's ability to tell im using the same machine by varying the browser's pixel dimensions (size) and versions. |
| Taking The Micky | 09-07-2015 05:48 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Quote:
Originally Posted by Callidus
(Post 702611)
I would also back that up and use VMware. Just creating new windows user accounts is not safe enough for my liking. Amount of testing I have done with it, creating just new user accounts I personally have found is not solid enough. | Perfectly safe buddy, been doing this for several years. |
| Taking The Micky | 09-07-2015 05:50 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Quote:
Originally Posted by ebayerOG
(Post 702706)
browser fingerprints are DEFINITELY a huge factor, along with screen resolution.
if you use different user accounts vs machines, switch up browser size, versions, everything you possibly can.
Amazon uses google's algorithm for account linking and I have successfully surpassed google's ability to tell im using the same machine by varying the browser's pixel dimensions (size) and versions. | Browser fingerprinting is not a factor, your going way way to deep buddy. I run several accounts from one laptop with different users, IP's and never had a problem and have been doing this for several years. |
| ebayerOG | 09-07-2015 06:34 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? its really not that deep. browser headings get submitted to every single site visited.
google and amazon are romantic lovers. google hooked amazon up with their advanced detection technologies in exchange for some leisure shopping money. pretty sure google also made amazon a sandwich. Point is, their abilities are the same.
sometimes I make 10+ gmails a day. Google doesn't like this one little bit. Their algorithms pick up patterns and browser fingerprints are a huge factor.
I used to battle it with different virtual machines. Even still, it would sometimes flag, requesting text/phone verification. Pissed me off.
I've since changed up the dimensions for each and voila.
don't be surprised if more companies adopt this technology soon; i.e. ebay and paypal. Its ONLY use is to help fight against us cyber "criminals" finding ways around their rules. |
| Taking The Micky | 09-07-2015 09:28 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? We all know about the technology, but amazon DON'T use it, simple.
Please post the link where google and amazon have hooked up, will make an interesting read. |
| alikayani | 09-08-2015 11:38 AM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Even though they cant track mac address but amazon uses browser fingerprints and canvas fingerprints to check how unique your machine is, trust me these fingerprints reveal so much information about your machine and with data collected amazon can link your accounts. |
| TonyAlmeida | 09-08-2015 04:28 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? All my accounts using the same windows user and different browser now. |
| mrking401 | 09-10-2015 02:28 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? I know for a fact amazon doesnt |
| glacier922 | 09-12-2015 12:59 AM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? What do you mean by different browsers? You mean each user account, you use a different browser? But there's only like 3 often used browsers right? firefox, chrome, IE, maybe even opera. But it's not like there's a huge selection right? Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida
(Post 702977)
All my accounts using the same windows user and different browser now. | |
| mhhbizz | 09-12-2015 01:36 AM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Quote:
Originally Posted by TOOKNAPA
(Post 702151)
yes, new account on laptop, new ip, new ID, new phone and banking info. I read somewhere you have to change the name of your computer, i don't know if it is necessary, but easy enough to do it.
I also bought the book few weeks ago and, even if it is very useful, it is too bad to not update it, that makes new user like you and me more confused. | NOT SAFE
i tried using different user account. and one of the feature in amazon now is live chat as a buyer. i tried using those in different accounts which i have multiple seller account.
1 of them are banned from using live chat although the seller account is ok and not suspended. |
| Callidus | 09-12-2015 02:24 AM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? I do not advise using just different users I have my own reasons for it and I personally do not think it's safe whatsoever |
| barrycruan | 09-13-2015 03:38 AM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? People saying it's not because of browser fingerprinting don't seem to know what browser fingerprinting is. It would rely heavily on you having the same IP which nobody in here should have for multiple accounts. Not only that but you'd have to use the same user account. Any variance and you will be a unique user.
It would be a completely pointless and expensive bit if technology for Amazon in regards to stealth accounts. They do however use if for fraud detection. |
| boysangur | 09-14-2015 04:28 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Is everyone talking about both computer's MAC and router/modem's MAC? Please, tell me yes and that I can skip all that technical ****. |
| barrycruan | 09-14-2015 05:52 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Quote:
Originally Posted by boysangur
(Post 704827)
Is everyone talking about both computer's MAC and router/modem's MAC? Please, tell me yes and that I can skip all that technical ****. | You don't need to worry about any MAC addresses being seen. |
| boysangur | 09-14-2015 08:42 PM | Re: Mac Address Important or No? Quote:
Originally Posted by barrycruan
(Post 704844)
You don't need to worry about any MAC addresses being seen. | Excellent. Wait... you aren't an Amazon spy telling everyone not to worry about things Amazon can actually see?! Are you?! Just kidding. Would be pretty funny though. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:44 PM. | |
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