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TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 05:17 AM

Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Hi, someting strange happened to me few days ago. I registered a new Amazon account, (with all the stealth rules as I always do), but after account was created, it was suspended.
I mean it was suspended since the begining. No notification, no emails ... and something strange is that I can add products in my inventory, but they are not listed on amazon.

On my other suspended accounts, I cannot add products to the inventory, I always received a notification of selling privilege removed and when I was testing the stealth method several months ago, I saw that if the registration details were not correct , the account never go Live ! This situation is really unusual.

I sent them an email of course, but 4 days after still no reply.

Is it possible to have something like a review before selling ? but if yes, I don't understand what they can review ..

well , does anyone already experienced something similar ?

GhostOfAmazon 12-18-2016 06:22 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Plenty of reports of accounts being deleted after creation, etc....

Maybe this is Amazons form of a "shadow ban".

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 07:19 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Ok, I see, but with no reason, it looks a bit strange

Play 12-18-2016 07:52 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Amazon are unlike ebay or paypal. They begin reviewing you well before you even list a product on their site.

Again unlike ebay or paypal, they'll also review buyer accounts, perhaps not as thorough as sellers - usually to keep dropshippers at bay.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 08:17 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 818619)
Amazon are unlike ebay or paypal. They begin reviewing you well before you even list a product on their site.

Again unlike ebay or paypal, they'll also review buyer accounts, perhaps not as thorough as sellers - usually to keep dropshippers at bay.

You mean my account could be blocked during the review ? and after the review it will be fine ?

rsot 12-18-2016 08:37 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 818603)
Plenty of reports of accounts being deleted after creation, etc....

Maybe this is Amazons form of a "shadow ban".

And this is without linking or problem with test charges going through?

Play 12-18-2016 09:03 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOKNAPA (Post 818621)
You mean my account could be blocked during the review ? and after the review it will be fine ?

Likelihood of getting an account back that was immeidately suspended is very slim in my opinion. Clearly Amazon deem you too high of a risk, such that they probably wont even respond to your appeal requests.

If this is happening to you on a consistent basis, I would go back to the drawing board and give the amazon ghost guide a read through.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 09:18 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 818633)
Likelihood of getting an account back that was immeidately suspended is very slim in my opinion. Clearly Amazon deem you too high of a risk, such that they probably wont even respond to your appeal requests.

If this is happening to you on a consistent basis, I would go back to the drawing board and give the amazon ghost guide a read through.

hey , I know how to make an amazon stealth account , I make 1 each month since nearly 2 years.

What risk are you talking about ? I didn't even list or sell anything

I cannot make appeal since I never had any notification or email from them about this suspension

I don't know if you ever read the Amazon ghost book, but it is clearly outdated and not updated, why should I read it again ?

I repeat myself, but this is an unsual suspension as for example I still can add items to my inventory

I just wanted to know if anyone has experienced it before or noticed any changes about registration as I know Amazon is updating its system

Play 12-18-2016 09:47 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
I presumed you were making it for the first time, or perhaps inconsistently.

Since you've been making it regularly, you would know over 2 years Amazon has adapted their systems to better deter users who may pose a risk to their business.

To best advise you on your query, could you confirm what Amazon platform your referring to, UK or US?

P.S. I personally haven't ever experienced this, hence why I suggested you look through the ghost guide just to ensure your not forgetting something.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 09:57 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
I live in Thailand , and I am registered as a Thai seller on .us and I use everything new and real , cc, phone number, address, ip .. first I was thinking they put my account on hold for a review even if I never had it before, but my unaswered email to them makes me think it is something more .. but what ..

GhostOfAmazon 12-18-2016 10:21 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
There's your answer.

Amazon has been getting an influx of Asian sellers lately, most of whom are either scammers or peddlers of phake merchandise. I don't need to inform you that Bangkok is the phake capital of the world. You're guilty by association, period. Maybe you're legit. Probably not. Amazon doesn't think so. Odds are they're right. Even if they aren't, they think they are, and at the end of the day, that's all that matters.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 02:25 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
I'm sorry to tell you that GOA, but your comment is pure **** and you left me the same comment when I signed up to the forum in 2015.
Bangkok the capital of the phake ?? You need to travel more, and even without travelling everybody know that bangkok is the capital of something else.
If that was the way of thinking of AMZ , can you tell me why they authorize Thai seller, but not Cambodian, laos, Myannmar sellers ?
And no , at the end of the day that's not all that matters, there are many other great things in life.
When I started to use this forum , I always read all your comments because most of them were pertinent and useful. I don't know what has happened to you since but it's sad and disappointing.

GhostOfAmazon 12-18-2016 08:36 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
TOOKNAPA:

If you have been making new accounts every month for years, you don't need to worry about whether or not your new accounts get denied or not.

The only reason someone would require dozens of accounts on Amazon is if they are doing something illegal or shady or if they are an account distributer.

Bangkok is well known for being a place to get a wide variety of counterfeit merchandise. There are open air markets with every ⊗⊗⊗⊗ you can imagine.

You asked why they were closing your account, and I gave you an answer. Now you're angry with me because you don't like my answer. Those are the facts. Bangkok IS a well known phake distrubuter. You live in a place where many phakes travel through. Amazon does not like phakes. Therefore, you are not allowed to sell on the account you created.

Is that the ENTIRE reason? Probably not. But that, coupled with some other mistake you made, made Amazon decide not to let you sell.

Create another account and try again.

If you want me to hold your hand and tell you Amazon treats sellers from every country the same, I'm sorry, I won't lie to you. Look at what the UK accounts have to deal with.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 09:09 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
yes, you are right , I am the drug dealer of amazon, Bangkok is the capital of counterfeit, and I made many mistakes when I made my account.

Everything you say is gold man, you should ask money for your preciious words (send me a paypal invoice if needed)

I don't want you to hold my hand as I will stay as far as I can from you.

take care

elmo 12-18-2016 09:35 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
My guess is its browser fingerprinting. I don't know the setup you're using but that's one of the most common ways they're flagging accounts.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 09:49 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elmo (Post 818765)
My guess is its browser fingerprinting. I don't know the setup you're using but that's one of the most common ways they're flagging accounts.

I use vmware with portable browsers, so I don't think it's browser fingerprint

PS : Thank you for your offer in PM but I won't buy an account before trying to make a new one several times again

GhostOfAmazon 12-18-2016 10:43 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Keep up that attitude----it really makes us want to bend over backwards to help you out.

Good luck.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 11:00 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 818772)
Keep up that attitude----it really makes us want to bend over backwards to help you out.

Good luck.

What attitude and what help are you talking about ?

GreenBean 12-18-2016 11:01 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOKNAPA (Post 818607)
Ok, I see, but with no reason, it looks a bit strange

Keep in mind amazon have a reason.

Can you think of anything you did even a little different ?

:spy:

GreenBean 12-18-2016 11:03 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 818628)
And this is without linking or problem with test charges going through?

That does not seem consistent.

In another thread, a user said he got notice from amazon that his card didn't not have enough for charges.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 11:12 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 818775)
Keep in mind amazon have a reason.

Can you think of anything you did even a little different ?


:spy:

Really I did everything the same as I always do : new vm , New real cc card with more than enough money on the account than needed, new real phone number, new existing address, new name , new ip

After talking with another member of the forum in PM, i will try with a card from another bank

GreenBean 12-19-2016 05:17 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Ah, there was talk of some main stream Thai banks having issues related to security.

. Might be why.

What a pain, total pain.
:pout:


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