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TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 05:17 AM

Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Hi, someting strange happened to me few days ago. I registered a new Amazon account, (with all the stealth rules as I always do), but after account was created, it was suspended.
I mean it was suspended since the begining. No notification, no emails ... and something strange is that I can add products in my inventory, but they are not listed on amazon.

On my other suspended accounts, I cannot add products to the inventory, I always received a notification of selling privilege removed and when I was testing the stealth method several months ago, I saw that if the registration details were not correct , the account never go Live ! This situation is really unusual.

I sent them an email of course, but 4 days after still no reply.

Is it possible to have something like a review before selling ? but if yes, I don't understand what they can review ..

well , does anyone already experienced something similar ?

GhostOfAmazon 12-18-2016 06:22 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Plenty of reports of accounts being deleted after creation, etc....

Maybe this is Amazons form of a "shadow ban".

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 07:19 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Ok, I see, but with no reason, it looks a bit strange

Play 12-18-2016 07:52 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Amazon are unlike ebay or paypal. They begin reviewing you well before you even list a product on their site.

Again unlike ebay or paypal, they'll also review buyer accounts, perhaps not as thorough as sellers - usually to keep dropshippers at bay.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 08:17 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 818619)
Amazon are unlike ebay or paypal. They begin reviewing you well before you even list a product on their site.

Again unlike ebay or paypal, they'll also review buyer accounts, perhaps not as thorough as sellers - usually to keep dropshippers at bay.

You mean my account could be blocked during the review ? and after the review it will be fine ?

rsot 12-18-2016 08:37 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 818603)
Plenty of reports of accounts being deleted after creation, etc....

Maybe this is Amazons form of a "shadow ban".

And this is without linking or problem with test charges going through?

Play 12-18-2016 09:03 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOKNAPA (Post 818621)
You mean my account could be blocked during the review ? and after the review it will be fine ?

Likelihood of getting an account back that was immeidately suspended is very slim in my opinion. Clearly Amazon deem you too high of a risk, such that they probably wont even respond to your appeal requests.

If this is happening to you on a consistent basis, I would go back to the drawing board and give the amazon ghost guide a read through.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 09:18 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Play (Post 818633)
Likelihood of getting an account back that was immeidately suspended is very slim in my opinion. Clearly Amazon deem you too high of a risk, such that they probably wont even respond to your appeal requests.

If this is happening to you on a consistent basis, I would go back to the drawing board and give the amazon ghost guide a read through.

hey , I know how to make an amazon stealth account , I make 1 each month since nearly 2 years.

What risk are you talking about ? I didn't even list or sell anything

I cannot make appeal since I never had any notification or email from them about this suspension

I don't know if you ever read the Amazon ghost book, but it is clearly outdated and not updated, why should I read it again ?

I repeat myself, but this is an unsual suspension as for example I still can add items to my inventory

I just wanted to know if anyone has experienced it before or noticed any changes about registration as I know Amazon is updating its system

Play 12-18-2016 09:47 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
I presumed you were making it for the first time, or perhaps inconsistently.

Since you've been making it regularly, you would know over 2 years Amazon has adapted their systems to better deter users who may pose a risk to their business.

To best advise you on your query, could you confirm what Amazon platform your referring to, UK or US?

P.S. I personally haven't ever experienced this, hence why I suggested you look through the ghost guide just to ensure your not forgetting something.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 09:57 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
I live in Thailand , and I am registered as a Thai seller on .us and I use everything new and real , cc, phone number, address, ip .. first I was thinking they put my account on hold for a review even if I never had it before, but my unaswered email to them makes me think it is something more .. but what ..

GhostOfAmazon 12-18-2016 10:21 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
There's your answer.

Amazon has been getting an influx of Asian sellers lately, most of whom are either scammers or peddlers of phake merchandise. I don't need to inform you that Bangkok is the phake capital of the world. You're guilty by association, period. Maybe you're legit. Probably not. Amazon doesn't think so. Odds are they're right. Even if they aren't, they think they are, and at the end of the day, that's all that matters.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 02:25 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
I'm sorry to tell you that GOA, but your comment is pure **** and you left me the same comment when I signed up to the forum in 2015.
Bangkok the capital of the phake ?? You need to travel more, and even without travelling everybody know that bangkok is the capital of something else.
If that was the way of thinking of AMZ , can you tell me why they authorize Thai seller, but not Cambodian, laos, Myannmar sellers ?
And no , at the end of the day that's not all that matters, there are many other great things in life.
When I started to use this forum , I always read all your comments because most of them were pertinent and useful. I don't know what has happened to you since but it's sad and disappointing.

GhostOfAmazon 12-18-2016 08:36 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
TOOKNAPA:

If you have been making new accounts every month for years, you don't need to worry about whether or not your new accounts get denied or not.

The only reason someone would require dozens of accounts on Amazon is if they are doing something illegal or shady or if they are an account distributer.

Bangkok is well known for being a place to get a wide variety of counterfeit merchandise. There are open air markets with every ⊗⊗⊗⊗ you can imagine.

You asked why they were closing your account, and I gave you an answer. Now you're angry with me because you don't like my answer. Those are the facts. Bangkok IS a well known phake distrubuter. You live in a place where many phakes travel through. Amazon does not like phakes. Therefore, you are not allowed to sell on the account you created.

Is that the ENTIRE reason? Probably not. But that, coupled with some other mistake you made, made Amazon decide not to let you sell.

Create another account and try again.

If you want me to hold your hand and tell you Amazon treats sellers from every country the same, I'm sorry, I won't lie to you. Look at what the UK accounts have to deal with.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 09:09 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
yes, you are right , I am the drug dealer of amazon, Bangkok is the capital of counterfeit, and I made many mistakes when I made my account.

Everything you say is gold man, you should ask money for your preciious words (send me a paypal invoice if needed)

I don't want you to hold my hand as I will stay as far as I can from you.

take care

elmo 12-18-2016 09:35 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
My guess is its browser fingerprinting. I don't know the setup you're using but that's one of the most common ways they're flagging accounts.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 09:49 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elmo (Post 818765)
My guess is its browser fingerprinting. I don't know the setup you're using but that's one of the most common ways they're flagging accounts.

I use vmware with portable browsers, so I don't think it's browser fingerprint

PS : Thank you for your offer in PM but I won't buy an account before trying to make a new one several times again

GhostOfAmazon 12-18-2016 10:43 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Keep up that attitude----it really makes us want to bend over backwards to help you out.

Good luck.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 11:00 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon (Post 818772)
Keep up that attitude----it really makes us want to bend over backwards to help you out.

Good luck.

What attitude and what help are you talking about ?

GreenBean 12-18-2016 11:01 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOKNAPA (Post 818607)
Ok, I see, but with no reason, it looks a bit strange

Keep in mind amazon have a reason.

Can you think of anything you did even a little different ?

:spy:

GreenBean 12-18-2016 11:03 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 818628)
And this is without linking or problem with test charges going through?

That does not seem consistent.

In another thread, a user said he got notice from amazon that his card didn't not have enough for charges.

TOOKNAPA 12-18-2016 11:12 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 818775)
Keep in mind amazon have a reason.

Can you think of anything you did even a little different ?


:spy:

Really I did everything the same as I always do : new vm , New real cc card with more than enough money on the account than needed, new real phone number, new existing address, new name , new ip

After talking with another member of the forum in PM, i will try with a card from another bank

GreenBean 12-19-2016 05:17 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Ah, there was talk of some main stream Thai banks having issues related to security.

. Might be why.

What a pain, total pain.
:pout:

TOOKNAPA 12-19-2016 07:16 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 818820)
Ah, there was talk of some main stream Thai banks having issues related to security.

. Might be why.

What a pain, total pain.
:pout:

I won't be surprised about that, Thai banks are clearly not made for international transactions. Few months ago I had a transfer from a European bank to my account and I had to explain them how to do it because tey told me it was impossible .. I will try different things , but if it doesn't work I will make a US accounts

TOOKNAPA 12-19-2016 07:44 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
deleted by me , sorry double post

TOOKNAPA 12-21-2016 05:37 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Solved with the help of a forum's member. the card used was the issue

GreenBean 12-21-2016 05:39 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Yay, I like good news. Well done.

Just curious, was this Krung Thai or another bank? I can not find info I had about Thai banks at the moment.

TOOKNAPA 12-21-2016 05:51 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 819395)
Yay, I like good news. Well done.

Just curious, was this Krung Thai or another bank? I can not find info I had about Thai banks at the moment.

Was BKK Bank, I always used it until now, but it seems it doesn't work anymore. Or it's also possible there was an issue with this card only as I never tested it for anything else. I will maybe test more later but I'm too busy making my competitor crying right now

fantomas0405 12-25-2016 12:13 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
I guess it was a BKK debit card (not credit)? Bad news if Thai bank debits dont work anymore but maybe more testing needed
Glad to know that most likely I am not one of your competitors!!

TOOKNAPA 01-06-2017 12:27 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
quick update : The suspended account is now active, and I received this from Amazon :

Hello,

We reviewed your account and the information you provided, and we have decided that you may sell on Amazon.com again.

If you have any funds in your account, they are now available.

To learn more about our policies, search for "Selling Policies" in Seller Central Help.

Sincerely,

Seller Performance Team


So, none of the suppositions were right, maybe they were just waiting christmas season to be finished, well, I don't know

rookprop 01-06-2017 12:58 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Over the last 6 months Amazon is not accepting certain credit cards for creation. Pre paid.
Just like a year ago when they stopped accepting Vanilla to create accounts. That was a pain.


For the browser fingerprinting. VMware does NOT change your browser fingerprint if you keep using the same set up and browser.
Things that do change it are: changing hardware such as video card.
Changing operating system from win 7 to 8 or home to business or linux etc.
Changing the browser such as using chrome to firefox. Not many other things change it.
But Amazon has over 40 million log ins a day. They dont usually automatedly track that unless it trips more than one link or is involved in fraud of more than 1000 dollars. jfyi

rookprop 01-06-2017 01:09 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOKNAPA (Post 822367)
quick update : The suspended account is now active, and I received this from Amazon :

Hello,

We reviewed your account and the information you provided, and we have decided that you may sell on Amazon.com again.

If you have any funds in your account, they are now available.

To learn more about our policies, search for "Selling Policies" in Seller Central Help.

Sincerely,

Seller Performance Team


So, none of the suppositions were right, maybe they were just waiting christmas season to be finished, well, I don't know



I can promise you this: That account wont last longer than 1 month.
Keep us updated.

Rudd47 01-06-2017 01:32 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
I had exactly the same problem as you describe it. After couples day when I email seller-performance@amazon.com they request me to send an ID and cc statement for acount verification

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOKNAPA (Post 818596)
Hi, someting strange happened to me few days ago. I registered a new Amazon account, (with all the stealth rules as I always do), but after account was created, it was suspended.
I mean it was suspended since the begining. No notification, no emails ... and something strange is that I can add products in my inventory, but they are not listed on amazon.

On my other suspended accounts, I cannot add products to the inventory, I always received a notification of selling privilege removed and when I was testing the stealth method several months ago, I saw that if the registration details were not correct , the account never go Live ! This situation is really unusual.

I sent them an email of course, but 4 days after still no reply.

Is it possible to have something like a review before selling ? but if yes, I don't understand what they can review ..

well , does anyone already experienced something similar ?


TOOKNAPA 01-06-2017 01:44 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rudd47 (Post 822392)
I had exactly the same problem as you describe it. After couples day when I email seller-performance@amazon.com they request me to send an ID and cc statement for acount verification

I have sent them an email too, but they never answered, and never asked me for ID or cc statment and now my account is active.

elmo 01-06-2017 05:34 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOKNAPA (Post 822367)
quick update : The suspended account is now active, and I received this from Amazon :

Hello,

We reviewed your account and the information you provided, and we have decided that you may sell on Amazon.com again.

If you have any funds in your account, they are now available.

To learn more about our policies, search for "Selling Policies" in Seller Central Help.

Sincerely,

Seller Performance Team


So, none of the suppositions were right, maybe they were just waiting christmas season to be finished, well, I don't know

Its because they detected some similarities between previously created accounts of yours. But not enough similarities to suspend the account permanently. This is very common if you are making your own accounts with the same operating system.

rookprop 01-16-2017 07:41 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOKNAPA (Post 818778)
Really I did everything the same as I always do : new vm , New real cc card with more than enough money on the account than needed, new real phone number, new existing address, new name , new ip

After talking with another member of the forum in PM, i will try with a card from another bank


New "real" cc ? What is real about it? Is it your actual bank card? Do the names match?? NEW IP?? What is your definition of new? VPN? A new IP in my mind is using a mobile router or phone and getting a new IP each time. While logging them with the excel template found on the forum.

If I had to bet, its your credit card. I only know of one type of card that now works.

TOOKNAPA 01-17-2017 06:41 PM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rookprop (Post 824709)
New "real" cc ? What is real about it? Is it your actual bank card? Do the names match?? NEW IP?? What is your definition of new? VPN? A new IP in my mind is using a mobile router or phone and getting a new IP each time. While logging them with the excel template found on the forum.

If I had to bet, its your credit card. I only know of one type of card that now works.

thank you for your contribution, but please read the other posts before answering, the pproblem is solved since few weeks now

Real cc = Plastic credit card issued by the bank
"do names match? " what names are you talking about ? name on credit card ? it has never been an issue to use mismatched name for credit card
"NEW IP???" this one was from a phone, but it is not the only way to get a new IP .. and also you have to know that IP from mobile are not really new and can be potentially used by any other amazon sellers who have the same mobile provider, so if you want to log them in an excel sheet, you can do it , but it is useless to me
I hope you don't bet too much money because it was not the crerdit card, and almost all credit cards work for amazon

russellmr2 01-18-2017 05:14 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rookprop (Post 822383)
I can promise you this: That account wont last longer than 1 month.
Keep us updated.

Wow that's pretty bold man... i don't think you are correct.. if they wanted to suspend him they would have done so already and would not "unsuspend" him like they did..

rookprop 01-19-2017 03:32 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by russellmr2 (Post 825010)
Wow that's pretty bold man... i don't think you are correct.. if they wanted to suspend him they would have done so already and would not "unsuspend" him like they did..


Ummmm. His account is ALREADY SUSPENDED since he cant sell on it. Whats the point of a seller account you cant sell on??? So what point are you trying to make??

I already know where he is making his mistake (s) but he is a dipsh#t and really shouldnt be sellign on Amazon to begin with. There is a grey area and an illegal area. He is in the illegal realm burning out accounts keeping money and not paying. Im guessing he makes it look like he ships items out and by the time people complain, he already cashed out 3 weeks later and bails.

Trust me, Ive seen it all, been through it all.

rookprop 01-19-2017 03:34 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TOOKNAPA (Post 824938)
thank you for your contribution, but please read the other posts before answering, the pproblem is solved since few weeks now

Real cc = Plastic credit card issued by the bank
"do names match? " what names are you talking about ? name on credit card ? it has never been an issue to use mismatched name for credit card
"NEW IP???" this one was from a phone, but it is not the only way to get a new IP .. and also you have to know that IP from mobile are not really new and can be potentially used by any other amazon sellers who have the same mobile provider, so if you want to log them in an excel sheet, you can do it , but it is useless to me
I hope you don't bet too much money because it was not the crerdit card, and almost all credit cards work for amazon

NO Most cards DO NOT WORK on Amazon. You are a prime example of that.

russellmr2 01-19-2017 05:48 AM

Re: Can Register on Amazon, but not Able to sell
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rookprop (Post 825250)
Ummmm. His account is ALREADY SUSPENDED since he cant sell on it. Whats the point of a seller account you cant sell on??? So what point are you trying to make??

The point i am trying to make is that you should try actually reading the thread before you make comments... HE GOT REINSTATED and the account is now ACTIVE!

Quote:

Originally Posted by rookprop (Post 825250)
I already know where he is making his mistake (s) but he is a dipsh#t and really shouldnt be sellign on Amazon to begin with. There is a grey area and an illegal area. He is in the illegal realm burning out accounts keeping money and not paying. Im guessing he makes it look like he ships items out and by the time people complain, he already cashed out 3 weeks later and bails.

Trust me, Ive seen it all, been through it all.

That's just a guess though.. If you know where he is making his mistake then why not share your knowledge with us - thats the point of this community, no need to resort to name calling...


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