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| Bazubi | 02-16-2017 04:08 AM | Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Hi Guys,
We recently had over a few VPNs. All VPNs were operated on the same PC running VMware with different VM's (each VPN on a different VM).
To avoid linking, we used the Win7 built in firewall to disconnect ingoing+outgoing traffic in case of a VPN disconnection (using the home/public network profiles).
It all worked well, until all of our accounts got linked and deleted on the same day and we lost confidence in this system. The link was due to all of the VMs reverting to the main computer's IP, at different times.
We need your professional technical help to make sure we do everything right this time.
Please help us with the following issues:
Do you know of an extra layer to add to the firewall in case of VPN disconnection so that the VM will not revert to the main computer's original IP no matter what happens?
We have a few employees who require the windows built-in Remote Desktop tool to connect to each VM running a VPN (Teamviewer is way too slow). We tried setting up access to the VM (while connected to the VPN) using Remote Desktop but failed. Can you please advise how we can set up Windows Remote Desktop connection to a VM running VPN?
If we manage to solve these 2 issues we should be fine.
We would appreciate your specific and knowledgeable assistance.
Thank you |
Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers You had the firewall settings setup to block the internet connection if the VPN drops but it did not work?
This is the best setup as you described but I'm confused with what you're saying. Did you test this firewall setting to see if the connection was blocked if the VPN lost connection? It's very easy to test. Send me a PM if you need help |
| chaichaoyi | 02-16-2017 11:15 AM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers How did "reverting to main IP" occur? |
| james929 | 02-16-2017 12:27 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazubi
(Post 830636)
Hi Guys,
We recently had over a few VPNs. All VPNs were operated on the same PC running VMware with different VM's (each VPN on a different VM).
To avoid linking, we used the Win7 built in firewall to disconnect ingoing+outgoing traffic in case of a VPN disconnection (using the home/public network profiles).
It all worked well, until all of our accounts got linked and deleted on the same day and we lost confidence in this system. The link was due to all of the VMs reverting to the main computer's IP, at different times.
We need your professional technical help to make sure we do everything right this time.
Please help us with the following issues:
Do you know of an extra layer to add to the firewall in case of VPN disconnection so that the VM will not revert to the main computer's original IP no matter what happens?
We have a few employees who require the windows built-in Remote Desktop tool to connect to each VM running a VPN (Teamviewer is way too slow). We tried setting up access to the VM (while connected to the VPN) using Remote Desktop but failed. Can you please advise how we can set up Windows Remote Desktop connection to a VM running VPN?
If we manage to solve these 2 issues we should be fine.
We would appreciate your specific and knowledgeable assistance.
Thank you | better to just use a new computer and dongle to avoid these complications |
| guitarca18 | 02-16-2017 01:14 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers You could also use a vpn killswitch. They're pretty effective. I use VPNNetMon. |
| phaz0rz | 02-16-2017 01:19 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by james921
(Post 830731)
better to just use a new computer and dongle to avoid these complications | In no way, shape, or form is it better to use a separate computer, lol. Virtualization is the future and is a more cost effective option, if you know how to use it. :thumb: |
| james929 | 02-16-2017 01:22 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by phaz0rz
(Post 830736)
In no way, shape, or form is it better to use a separate computer, lol. Virtualization is the future and is a more cost effective option, if you know how to use it. :thumb: | not if you make a mistake and lose all your account as the OP did.. |
| m4x0r | 02-17-2017 01:19 AM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers I used vps and neve meet any problems |
| duanbo | 02-19-2017 09:55 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers I have few accounts running VMs on the same computer but I dont use any VPN. Am i missing something here? |
| duanbo | 02-19-2017 10:04 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Are you using a VPN that uses static ip address or dynamic ip address? if its Dynamic IP address that might be the reason why your accounts got linked |
Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by duanbo
(Post 831497)
I have few accounts running VMs on the same computer but I dont use any VPN. Am i missing something here? | If you are using fresh IPs on all accounts then it's fine but it's much easier to have a VPN setup on each virtual machine so you don't have to worry about changing IPs |
| duanbo | 02-20-2017 05:13 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by elmo
(Post 831587)
If you are using fresh IPs on all accounts then it's fine but it's much easier to have a VPN setup on each virtual machine so you don't have to worry about changing IPs | I have a usb wifi adapter for each account. I switch them everytime i change accounts. Is this considered using fresh IP ? |
Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers If each account has its own hotspot provider (like verizon/att/tmobile) then you don't have to track Ips and yes they will be as good as fresh IPs. But if you use the same hotspot for multiple accounts, then you need to keep track of the IPs that way you don't run into the same IP on multiple accounts |
| feadup | 02-21-2017 01:13 AM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers well...from what you wrote I can tell you yes 100% you ll be linked ...
1- canvas fingerprint.
2- webgl
3- webrtc
these are just a start , there many other factors but lets summrise them..:
1- browser.... what info the browser gives about you.
2- your behaviour.
before burning more accounts, read alot |
| duanbo | 02-21-2017 02:02 AM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers If I start using VPN now, do i purchase 1 VPN per VMware account or 1 VPN will work with many accounts ? |
| bakica | 02-21-2017 05:01 AM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by duanbo
(Post 831498)
Are you using a VPN that uses static ip address or dynamic ip address? if its Dynamic IP address that might be the reason why your accounts got linked |
I also think the VPN might be the issue and got your accounts linked. If you're using VPN from the same provider the accounts probably end up with the same IP at a time.
About the RD you can manualy add your local IP address to each VM in order to be able to access the VM when connected to a VPN.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
| JamesNorth101 | 02-21-2017 06:49 AM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by duanbo
(Post 831690)
If I start using VPN now, do i purchase 1 VPN per VMware account or 1 VPN will work with many accounts ? | 1 static IP VPN and 1 VM per account |
Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by bakica
(Post 831713)
I also think the VPN might be the issue and got your accounts linked. If you're using VPN from the same provider the accounts probably end up with the same IP at a time.
About the RD you can manualy add your local IP address to each VM in order to be able to access the VM when connected to a VPN.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk | Always a good idea to have multiple providers :thumb: |
| frksmth | 02-21-2017 07:54 AM | Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by duanbo
(Post 831627)
I have a usb wifi adapter for each account. I switch them everytime i change accounts. Is this considered using fresh IP ? |
Do you have a separate connection (SIM) for each usb wifi adapter? If you're using the same SIM or even same network for a different wifi adapter, the IPs may recycle and cause linking. Also, if you're using VMs and separate usb wifi connections, it may be best to disable the LAN (or whatever main internet connection you have for the PC) so that there are no problems even if the usb wifi connection fails.
PS: I was with the three network and had two separate connections. However, I noticed that one IP was recycled to the other connection over a three month period. It happened just once or twice so far so I'm sure it's not a common occurrence. That's why I always log the IP even if I use different connections with the same provider. |
| frksmth | 02-21-2017 07:57 AM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazubi
(Post 830636)
Hi Guys,
It all worked well, until all of our accounts got linked and deleted on the same day and we lost confidence in this system. The link was due to all of the VMs reverting to the main computer's IP, at different times.
Thank you |
How do you know for sure that the reason for linking was the IP address? |
| duanbo | 02-23-2017 05:20 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Im using the same provider for all my different usb wifi. So i guess ill start using VPN |
Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by duanbo
(Post 832318)
Im using the same provider for all my different usb wifi. So i guess ill start using VPN | Yes highly recommend 24vc. Great company :thumb: |
| e2free | 02-24-2017 03:25 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by frksmth
(Post 831759)
Do you have a separate connection (SIM) for each usb wifi adapter? If you're using the same SIM or even same network for a different wifi adapter, the IPs may recycle and cause linking. Also, if you're using VMs and separate usb wifi connections, it may be best to disable the LAN (or whatever main internet connection you have for the PC) so that there are no problems even if the usb wifi connection fails.
PS: I was with the three network and had two separate connections. However, I noticed that one IP was recycled to the other connection over a three month period. It happened just once or twice so far so I'm sure it's not a common occurrence. That's why I always log the IP even if I use different connections with the same provider. | I still don't understand what's the point keep record of ip,
I belive both of your accounts details are different so even if the one ip used on one account and after few months this ip use on 2nd account this will not make any issue as details are different this will class as a separate user
I am sure 1000's of people using dangles with amaozn so same ip will repeat on my accounts |
Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by e2free
(Post 832488)
I still don't understand what's the point keep record of ip,
I belive both of your accounts details are different so even if the one ip used on one account and after few months this ip use on 2nd account this will not make any issue as details are different this will class as a separate user
I am sure 1000's of people using dangles with amaozn so same ip will repeat on my accounts | You are right that 2 different people entirely sharing the same IP will have different information so sharing the IP will often not be an issue
But the same person, accidentally re-using the same IP on 2 accounts is likely to get linked because those 2 accounts are much more similar than say 2 random people in the USA.
Someone with 2 accounts most likely is selling the same / similar items, using the same bank to cash out, same CC at registration, same shipping zip code, accessing accounts at the same time, similar email correspondance. That's why its best to avoid re-using the same IP on your own multiple accounts, and why recording IPs is a smarter choice (or dedicated IPs being the best option) |
| frksmth | 02-24-2017 06:10 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by elmo
(Post 832492)
You are right that 2 different people entirely sharing the same IP will have different information so sharing the IP will often not be an issue
But the same person, accidentally re-using the same IP on 2 accounts is likely to get linked because those 2 accounts are much more similar than say 2 random people in the USA.
Someone with 2 accounts most likely is selling the same / similar items, using the same bank to cash out, same CC at registration, same shipping zip code, accessing accounts at the same time, similar email correspondance. That's why its best to avoid re-using the same IP on your own multiple accounts, and why recording IPs is a smarter choice (or dedicated IPs being the best option) |
Exactly! Couldn't have said it better myself!
Better safe than sorry [emoji846] |
| duanbo | 03-17-2017 10:05 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers When Im running VM on one of my accounts and i want to switch accounts to another VM account with a different USB wifi, Do i have to turn off computer to switch the USB Wifi or i can just close VM and switch the USB WIFI? |
Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by duanbo
(Post 836551)
When Im running VM on one of my accounts and i want to switch accounts to another VM account with a different USB wifi, Do i have to turn off computer to switch the USB Wifi or i can just close VM and switch the USB WIFI? | You could get a Multi USB Adapter, so you don't have to remove the current USB Wifi from 1 VMWare to a 2nd. |
| duanbo | 03-18-2017 04:01 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by MM78
(Post 836558)
You could get a Multi USB Adapter, so you don't have to remove the current USB Wifi from 1 VMWare to a 2nd. | When I remove the USB wifi from 1 VMWare to a 2nd one do i have to turn off comp then switch? |
| e2free | 03-18-2017 05:07 PM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers Quote:
Originally Posted by duanbo
(Post 836676)
When I remove the USB wifi from 1 VMWare to a 2nd one do i have to turn off comp then switch? | No just plug back in and will be different ip |
| gazinbali | 03-19-2017 07:09 AM | Re: Important Set Up Question for The Professional Sellers I suggest you try the Firefox HOXX VPN plugin. It is embedded in Firefox and does not crash or disconnect in my experience. if you get the Pro vsn there are lots more choices.
As a backup you should have a proxy address in your browser so if it does crash, it should revert to that, not your home IP.
There are a number of addons for Firefox to assist in Stealth, one makes your fingerprint look the same as millions of other computers, its called Blend in, another can change your browser id and fingerprint every 5 mins etc. Quote:
Originally Posted by Bazubi
(Post 830636)
Hi Guys,
We recently had over a few VPNs. All VPNs were operated on the same PC running VMware with different VM's (each VPN on a different VM).
To avoid linking, we used the Win7 built in firewall to disconnect ingoing+outgoing traffic in case of a VPN disconnection (using the home/public network profiles).
It all worked well, until all of our accounts got linked and deleted on the same day and we lost confidence in this system. The link was due to all of the VMs reverting to the main computer's IP, at different times.
We need your professional technical help to make sure we do everything right this time.
Please help us with the following issues:
Do you know of an extra layer to add to the firewall in case of VPN disconnection so that the VM will not revert to the main computer's original IP no matter what happens?
We have a few employees who require the windows built-in Remote Desktop tool to connect to each VM running a VPN (Teamviewer is way too slow). We tried setting up access to the VM (while connected to the VPN) using Remote Desktop but failed. Can you please advise how we can set up Windows Remote Desktop connection to a VM running VPN?
If we manage to solve these 2 issues we should be fine.
We would appreciate your specific and knowledgeable assistance.
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