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ibmcorp 01-01-2019 12:28 AM

Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Has anyone tried to 'spoof' an email to Amazon at notice-dispute to retract an inauthentic claim? I have the email address of the person who caused the complaint, and read online that someone spoofed before and Amazon retracted it. They wouldn't re-instate it afterwards when the brand owner continuously tried to. Has anyone had any success/failures with this?

altrin0 01-01-2019 05:58 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
yes tried but not succeed. I thought that emails didn't delivered to Amazon

ibmcorp 01-01-2019 06:07 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
I tried a spoofer and sent it to my email first and I got it, so hopefully Amazon got it too.

Beautiful 01-01-2019 03:08 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
I think it would be obvious for them to tell if it was spoofed

But who knows... I would imagine most people have already exploited that though and amazon has counter measures in place by now

ibmcorp 01-02-2019 03:28 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
I doubt it's been abused, it might have been done wrong by some people, but there is very little info about this when you research online.

user3657 01-02-2019 03:51 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Let us know how it works. its not easy to spoof those systems.

MM78 01-02-2019 03:54 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
I say you go the person's home you are trying to imitate and force them to retract the claim. A couple of shotguns, duct tape, maybe some ski mask.

ibmcorp 01-02-2019 05:23 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Brains over force is better :)

MM78 01-02-2019 02:40 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ibmcorp (Post 968098)
Brains over force is better :)

You obviously didn't get where I was going with that...it's ok.

BezosCrazos 01-02-2019 04:15 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
How do you Spoof!?

I have an IP complaint I would like to have resolved from xerox but the b*tch told me to f off. We sold ONE xerox item because it was sitting around not being used. This may be the reason our 1 million account got banned. SMH.

e2free 01-02-2019 06:21 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Yes it works with amazon ebay etc but spoof needs to done it properly not through 3rd party sites which never works

I cant disclose method but it does work

user3657 01-03-2019 10:03 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BezosCrazos (Post 968225)
How do you Spoof!?

I have an IP complaint I would like to have resolved from xerox but the b*tch told me to f off. We sold ONE xerox item because it was sitting around not being used. This may be the reason our 1 million account got banned. SMH.

You got to me kidding? I wish sellers would start taking some of these companies and brand protect companies to court. If we do not fight back they will win....

user3657 01-03-2019 10:05 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by e2free (Post 968248)
Yes it works with amazon ebay etc but spoof needs to done it properly not through 3rd party sites which never works

I cant disclose method but it does work

Yea I can see if you have your own exchange server then you can actually change some mail server details but i suspect 3rd parties just change the from address which is easier. In hotmail all you have to do is view "Details" to see which mx server it really came from, im sure amazon will have the bots reject the claim if something does not match up.

bmk73 01-03-2019 11:14 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by user3657 (Post 968390)
Yea I can see if you have your own exchange server then you can actually change some mail server details but i suspect 3rd parties just change the from address which is easier. In hotmail all you have to do is view "Details" to see which mx server it really came from, im sure amazon will have the bots reject the claim if something does not match up.

"he cant disclose"

whats the point of this forum, if no one helps lol..unreal

Beautiful 01-03-2019 01:33 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Maybe you can try PMing him and see if he's willing to help :)

e2free 01-03-2019 05:27 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmk73 (Post 968424)
"he cant disclose"

whats the point of this forum, if no one helps lol..unreal

Telling others mean this method will stop soon, as i said this works,

Try and learn i will not disclose this since only this mthod working and amazon not even aware of this

JamesNorth101 01-03-2019 05:34 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmk73 (Post 968424)
"he cant disclose"

whats the point of this forum, if no one helps lol..unreal

We do all help each other but everyone also has their own way of doing things

If methods that take weeks and months to work out got shared then they would end up not working pretty fast.

MM78 01-03-2019 05:41 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bmk73 (Post 968424)
"he cant disclose"

whats the point of this forum, if no one helps lol..unreal

Can you disclose your sources for merchandise, please. Going to need Company Name, Address, Email, Phone, Fax also.

RustyShackelford 01-03-2019 07:38 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
just youtube how to spoof emails, look at the ones from 2018 only. You will need a special version of linux, must be computer savvy.

bmk73 01-03-2019 09:16 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MM78 (Post 968537)
Can you disclose your sources for merchandise, please. Going to need Company Name, Address, Email, Phone, Fax also.

yeah..because that is literally the same thing u tool bag...helping other sellers run accounts and not getting shut down on amz is what this forum is about...
although id happily give you some good sources as i like to help people and not just be a internet tool bag

JamesNorth101 01-03-2019 09:35 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Name calling

Helpful. Really helpful

Beautiful 01-04-2019 10:05 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Asking if spoofing email works.... People claiming it still works

That should be enough... Just do the research to figure it out, you got this

BezosCrazos 01-04-2019 01:52 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by user3657 (Post 968388)
You got to me kidding? I wish sellers would start taking some of these companies and brand protect companies to court. If we do not fight back they will win....

My attorney is working with xerox as we speak. We will sue if that does not work. Scumbags.

Everest30 07-16-2019 07:22 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Has anybody found a workaround for this?

Zippie 07-17-2019 03:41 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
I would imagine if you try to spoof repeatedly and it doesn't work or you get caught doing it, then Amazon will notate that to your seller account - which is like getting caught with ⊗⊗⊗⊗ invoices.

So i've got 25 IP violations on 1 seller account, that I'm trying to get removed.

Other than emailing the Rights Owner (which I'm doing) or utilizing an attorney (which I'm going to try next) or spoofing (which I'm not willing to try), anyone know anything else that works? Feel free to PM me. Thanks

gsdrums87 07-18-2019 01:26 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
I completely believe another seller used an email spoofing method to get a couple of my listings closed for counterfeit claims.

The email provided was real, and 2 of my listings were closed. The thing that piqued my curiosity was that one of the items was unrelated to the IP that the email was representative of.

So, I emailed the address and asked if that claim was filed by him.

He said it was not and he has no record of it, so he is reaching out to Amazon to find the solution.

So yeah, I definitely believe that this is an ongoing thing, and I have no idea how to fight it.

But it would be incredibly useful to know how to spoof claim retraction emails.

Kingcookie 07-21-2019 10:09 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Spoof retraction works still, But if the rights owner complains to amazon You will get code of conduct suspension use at your own risk

Zippie 07-23-2019 03:47 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingcookie (Post 1020689)
Spoof retraction works still, But if the rights owner complains to amazon You will get code of conduct suspension use at your own risk

OK. That is interesting and useful to know. But how would the Rights Owner find out?

Kingcookie 07-23-2019 07:36 AM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Amazon emails rights owner every time to say the content is reinstated

Ellis555 07-23-2019 02:22 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Any help pointing me in the right direction on how to spoof an email

Zippie 07-23-2019 08:21 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingcookie (Post 1021035)
Amazon emails rights owner every time to say the content is reinstated

If that's true then it seems like game over if you do that enough. I would imagine a Rights Owner would be super pissed at Amazon and the seller of this happened.

Which would result in an account suspension.

Josh134 07-23-2019 09:24 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingcookie (Post 1020689)
Spoof retraction works still, But if the rights owner complains to amazon You will get code of conduct suspension use at your own risk

he's right I just got to account suspended for code of conduct at the same time exact time 6:44 pm both I had been spoofing and it was not the spoof it self but when they reinstated the listing they didn't reinstate them all and I keep asking like a dumb ass then bam suspended

user3657 07-23-2019 10:51 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Josh134 (Post 1021285)
he's right I just got to account suspended for code of conduct at the same time exact time 6:44 pm both I had been spoofing and it was not the spoof it self but when they reinstated the listing they didn't reinstate them all and I keep asking like a dumb ass then bam suspended

what? If you got it at the same time then Amazon detected it was from you and not really the rights owner.

r00tk3y 07-23-2019 11:38 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by user3657 (Post 968388)
You got to me kidding? I wish sellers would start taking some of these companies and brand protect companies to court. If we do not fight back they will win....

Yeah b/c were rich

Josh134 07-24-2019 07:58 PM

Re: Spoofing an email to Amazon to retract inauthentic
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by user3657 (Post 1021299)
what? If you got it at the same time then Amazon detected it was from you and not really the rights owner.

Only after I kept emailing them cause they didn’t reactivate all the Asins they had blocked . When I first used to spoof I would get a reply in a few outs reinstated now takes days and some time have to email them screen shot of the retraction email . But whoever u communicate to much with seller performance about the same issue most time lead to a suspension . HAS ANYONE EVER BACK FROM CODE OF CONDUCT ? I have 3 accounts like this the first one they told me I can appeal for inauthentic counterfeit


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