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r00tk3y 07-31-2019 07:34 AM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
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Originally Posted by sussu007 (Post 1022989)
New accounts are super sensitive for first orders. This is what Amazon has changed with new accounts in past few weeks. You have to grow the value of orders gradually. I always place a first order for some biro or something like that, less than 5$. Next day I place an order for something worth 25$ - 30$. You wait a couple of days then threshold is 50$. Etc etc.

It's not like it was before were with a new account you just had to wait a couple of days and then could place an order for a 100$ no problem.

Haven’t tested this will try

NormanNormal 07-31-2019 01:13 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sussu007 (Post 1022989)
New accounts are super sensitive for first orders. This is what Amazon has changed with new accounts in past few weeks. You have to grow the value of orders gradually. I always place a first order for some biro or something like that, less than 5$. Next day I place an order for something worth 25$ - 30$. You wait a couple of days then threshold is 50$. Etc etc.

It's not like it was before were with a new account you just had to wait a couple of days and then could place an order for a 100$ no problem.

I'm wondering if they treat aged accounts from a few years ago the same way, even if no orders were placed in a long time.

sussu007 07-31-2019 04:31 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by NormanNormal (Post 1023089)
I'm wondering if they treat aged accounts from a few years ago the same way, even if no orders were placed in a long time.

They definitely do. Limits are close to none on 5 year old + accounts. On newer accounts, you just have to ramp up. Always act the way a legitimate user would act.

Zippie 07-31-2019 09:04 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
I agree they tend to treat older accounts with prior similar (to what you want to do now) history totally differently than a new fresh account.

In fact if anyone has some older Amazon buyer accounts (with normal buying activity) they want to sell, PM me.

hattmall 08-01-2019 12:15 AM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zippie (Post 1023159)
I agree they tend to treat older accounts with prior similar (to what you want to do now) history totally differently than a new fresh account.

In fact if anyone has some older Amazon buyer accounts (with normal buying activity) they want to sell, let me know.

I have tons, but facing the same issues. My account did last longer than new, but still getting shutdown, old accounts I was bringing back and paying for prime with.

Accounts that had done ~ 20k in purchasing over a year or so.

NormanNormal 08-02-2019 08:47 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hattmall (Post 1023173)
I have tons, but facing the same issues. My account did last longer than new, but still getting shutdown, old accounts I was bringing back and paying for prime with.

Accounts that had done ~ 20k in purchasing over a year or so.

Are you buying gift of prime with older accounts and sending it to new ones?

sussu007 08-22-2019 03:29 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Facing alot of issues too. Did anyone have any success? Using VCCs with false name and address but correct postcode

futbolplayer 08-22-2019 04:24 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
When are people getting address verified? First order? Second order?

sussu007 08-23-2019 02:49 AM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by futbolplayer (Post 1028770)
When are people getting address verified? First order? Second order?

Hit and miss mostly. It's just luck at this point in my opinion. Most get stuck on first order but also happens at second order and third order.

I have a feeling it is coming from my IPs. Previously, worked with NORDVPN dedicated IPs without any problems but now they are getting blocked. Also used datacenter IPs (I know that is frowned upon on this forum).

Having said that, I will try switching to mobile data IP and refreshing via airplane mode

its 08-23-2019 01:26 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
I've been using mobile hotspot IP and I am still getting AVS email or shadow blocked.

The item I am buying is an Amazon rental so I think that is a particularly hot item that they are watching for unusual behavior.

My next step is to get a new address and new computer and try again.

I can usually get a single order of a single item delivered but, that is all.

forest1 08-23-2019 01:38 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by its (Post 1029062)
I've been using mobile hotspot IP and I am still getting AVS email or shadow blocked.

The item I am being is an Amazon rental so I think that is a particularly hot item that they are watching for unsusal behavior.

My next step is to get a new address and new computer and try again.

I can usually get a single order of a single item delivered but, that is all.

One single order paid with physical gift card? How much is the order?

its 08-23-2019 03:32 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Rental items don't allow gift cards you must use a Visa/mastercard/Discover or Amex branded card.

I have been using Amex gift cards and Mastercard virtual cards issued by my real credit card.

The rental items range from $20-$40.

r00tk3y 08-23-2019 11:21 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by its (Post 1029094)
Rental items don't allow gift cards you must use a Visa/mastercard/Discover or Amex branded card.

I have been using Amex gift cards and Mastercard virtual cards issued by my real credit card.

The rental items range from $20-$40.

try smaller amount?

NormanNormal 08-23-2019 11:35 PM

Re: Buyer accounts automatically under address-verification
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sussu007 (Post 1028862)
Hit and miss mostly. It's just luck at this point in my opinion. Most get stuck on first order but also happens at second order and third order.

I have a feeling it is coming from my IPs. Previously, worked with NORDVPN dedicated IPs without any problems but now they are getting blocked. Also used datacenter IPs (I know that is frowned upon on this forum).

Having said that, I will try switching to mobile data IP and refreshing via airplane mode

NordVPN has been blacklisted by amazon, as confirmed by them. Stay away from it.

Use this IP scoring tool as a way to guage how amazon sees your IP address health:

https://getipintel.net/index.php#web


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