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user3657 09-06-2019 09:15 PM

using usps labels not shipped
 
I remember reading on here that sellers would sometimes cut the barcode or something on a label from usps that was never used when they couldnt get refunded for it and use it to ship a different package???

Is there anyone that knows what im talking about? I have a few labels that are laying around and that were never used. I was wondering if I could somehow use the tracking details for a new order?

SaiJin 09-06-2019 09:22 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Can you get a refund for those labels perhaps?

I’m just a little nervous with manipulations especially when it’s just a couple of bucks.
So I don’t have much experience in this

user3657 09-06-2019 09:29 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
no, because Amazon doesnt let you get a refund after a week or something. Stupid me.

i feel safe doing it, because im not really hiding anything. Everyone would be getting their orders...

agent006140 09-06-2019 09:32 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
you can go to USPS and find out ,there is a short expiration date unless you bought it from USPS.

user3657 09-06-2019 09:38 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
I wonder if I just adhere a new address to the current label?

agent006140 09-07-2019 09:21 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
did you type the tracking number on USPS and see what it said?
you can try ,if it does not work,it will either come back to you or your buyer will end up paying for postage

user3657 09-11-2019 06:35 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1032279)
did you type the tracking number on USPS and see what it said?
you can try ,if it does not work,it will either come back to you or your buyer will end up paying for postage

They are labels that were never used. So it just says label has been processed USPS waiting for package.

phaz0rz 09-11-2019 06:55 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
I think you'd end up getting yourself in trouble for no reason. It would probably work, but there would be red flags that would make an attentive postal worker suspicious.

I haven't done what you're describing but for about 3 years I printed all of my First Class labels as "flats" (which cost half as much but don't include tracking), and then put tracking stickers on them from usps.com. Something like 1% of shipments would have issues on delivery and be returned to us, but overall it was awesome and I saved over $100k on postage.

agent006140 09-11-2019 11:03 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
what do you mean by getting tracking stickers from USPS?
You mean the green tracking sticker you can ordered from USPS?
those stickers are not free,it cost what $1.50 if you go to a post office and pay for them.

agent006140 09-11-2019 11:06 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
It is not EBay or AMZN,it is USPS rule that those labels have to be voided within a certain time frame,if it is USPS priority purchased on USPS.COM,it is good for 30 days,but not when you print them on Paypal or AMZN or Ebay.
also that tracking number,does it tell where it comes from and where it is going to,if you use it to a different destination,would that be a problem?

phaz0rz 09-11-2019 12:08 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1033104)
what do you mean by getting tracking stickers from USPS?
You mean the green tracking sticker you can ordered from USPS?
those stickers are not free,it cost what $1.50 if you go to a post office and pay for them.

Those aren't what I was talking about.

I don't need you to call me wrong about something I did as a part of my shipping operation for several years. I was sharing a story not asking a question.

It was these stickers:
https://i.postimg.cc/2y5q3ZBN/Untitled.png

They're available 100% free on usps.com or the stamps.com store. They're outdated and have very few valid uses anymore. I would stick those on the part of a flats label where the tracking number would be if it were a parcel label. It was not a legal way to send mail. We sent tens of thousands of shipments that way over about 3 years. They were all picked up by our mail carrier on her route.

agent006140 09-11-2019 03:34 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
I have never seen these stickers,and I have been using USPS since 1990s,but back then I GO TO the post office ,there is no way to print our own shipping label online.
But these stickers of yours have no code,so what is the purpose of placing them on your package?

phaz0rz 09-12-2019 06:23 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
The code doesn't show on the website for whatever reason. I guess USPS doesn't want people trying to use that tracking number for something.

But if you actually order the books, you get 50 tracking numbers per book. They're just little stickers with a barcode roughly the same size as the barcode on a regular First Class parcel.

rsot 09-12-2019 06:25 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1033303)
The code doesn't show on the website for whatever reason. I guess USPS doesn't want people trying to use that tracking number for something.

But if you actually order the books, you get 50 tracking numbers per book. They're just little stickers with a barcode roughly the same size as the barcode on a regular First Class parcel.

50 per book - interesting

phaz0rz 09-12-2019 06:32 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rsot (Post 1033305)
50 per book - interesting

Lol.. I know what you're thinking but they'd be useless for any kind of shady activity since they aren't validated until they're accepted into the mail stream.

rsot 09-12-2019 06:36 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1033315)
Lol.. I know what you're thinking but they'd be useless for any kind of shady activity since they aren't validated until they're accepted into the mail stream.

Hah yes phaz - that's true - it was just a morning odd thought

agent006140 09-12-2019 04:14 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1033315)
Lol.. I know what you're thinking but they'd be useless for any kind of shady activity since they aren't validated until they're accepted into the mail stream.

do you have to pay for the book?
This would be nice for those who sell low priced items like postcards,yarns,coupons?

phaz0rz 09-12-2019 04:57 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1033480)
do you have to pay for the book?
This would be nice for those who sell low priced items like postcards,yarns,coupons?

The book is free, but what I was doing was illegal. We had a really cool mail lady at the time and I would tip her heavily. If it weren't for her, every single piece of mail would have been rejected. For me to use them legally I would have had to pay an extra $1.53 (which would have been the difference in cost between First Class Flats and First Class Parcels).

I even slapped them on letter envelopes a few times and shipped stickers across the country with tracking for $.51. (letter postage rate)

Eventually, after about 3 years of doing this, we had a new postal supervisor come to town. Not postmaster but the position right under the postmaster. She noticed what we'd been doing and threatened to have my access to online postage cut off if I didn't stop.

At that point though it was fine.. I'd already built a huge business off of a loophole. :clap:

agent006140 09-12-2019 09:34 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
This reminds me of someone who told me once to use one penny stamp on letter and the post office has to accept it.
And my brother who sat at the coffee counter and dilute the coffee cream with water and drink it as milk,
He also told me no need to tip doorman,waiter as we will never see them again.
Abbie Hoffman once wrote a book called Steal this Book,he offered ideas of getting freebie,one of them is to find a restaurant which has 2 room,one has a counter.
Go to one room and ordered a large meal,get the check and go to the bathroom.
Then emerged from the bathroom and go to the other room,sat at the counter and ordered a cup of coffee,then go to the cashier and pay for the coffee and leave.
Please feel to add more tips on how to get something free

yankee 09-13-2019 11:18 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
How many unused labels are you talking about? This is somewhat amazing to me haha

ebaystealth1974 09-13-2019 12:05 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
I'm very confused. The barcode has the shipping details in it. It's only going to end up at the intended destination if you attatch it to something.

Maybe I'm not following your plan?

ebaystealth1974 09-13-2019 01:38 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
No, it most certainly does have the shipping info in it.

Look at your scan receipt next time. Shows exactly where it's going! The zipcode is embedded into the barcode.

ebaystealth1974 09-13-2019 01:39 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Unless we are talking about two different things...

agent006140 09-13-2019 01:41 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
he is talking about those barcodes from a book which is no longer offered.
,

agent006140 09-13-2019 01:42 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
I wonder if you can still use the shipping label,if you dont mind tracking would not work?

ebaystealth1974 09-13-2019 03:49 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1033668)

@ebs - none of my outgoing tracking numbers show where the shipment is going. You can see it in the postage record but that doesn't mean it's embedded in the tracking number. Take this tracking number of mine from today (9400111699000485302453) and plug it into usps.com, and you won't be able to tell where the shipment is going. Shipments are scanned as "picked up" in your zip code because your carrier's scanner is programmed for your zip code, and they're scanned at the destination as "delivered" because the carrier there has that zip code programmed into their scanner.

If you're talking about receipts you get at the post office, the destination address shows on those receipts because they're showing you what you paid for. You can't go back and look at your postage record online so they include all the relevant information on your receipt.

How you gonna argue with someone that's shipped as much shiit as me over the years?! :lol:

Post (or send me) 2 or 3 screenshots like this of your packages today, and I'll tell you where each one went.

https://prdfaq-f2.usps.com/images/US...1618_374px.jpg

ebaystealth1974 09-13-2019 04:15 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Anyone else can free free to post one up, as well, in case phaz0rz has already checked out for the weekend. :)

phaz0rz 09-13-2019 04:46 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by agent006140 (Post 1033659)
he is talking about those barcodes from a book which is no longer offered.
,

Here they are, shipping out for free every day, if you need some agent : https://store.usps.com/store/product...400-P_LABEL400

ebaystealth1974 09-13-2019 04:58 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1033688)
*back from PO, beer open, lets go* lol

Same here... headed to the store for more!

Your shipping method doesn't give you the option to reprint a label? I don't wanna wait till tomorrow... I'll have already moved on to something else. :lol:

ebaystealth1974 09-13-2019 05:23 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1033694)
Lol I'm wouldn't wanna reprint after the cut-off time when I've already dropped packages off. But, my laptop saves everything the printer prints, so one sec :thumb:

Uhhh... yeah, no need to ACTUALLY reprint. Just bring it up and then "PrtScn" it. :lol:

ebaystealth1974 09-13-2019 05:23 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Nevermind... I see you went all the way lol

ebaystealth1974 09-13-2019 05:27 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Oh okay...

Anyway. Maplewood, NJ 07040 :peace:

ebaystealth1974 09-13-2019 05:28 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
So... again. I highly doubt you can re-use the bottom of a label with the barcode on it. It already has the destination. :)

ebaystealth1974 09-13-2019 05:33 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
It's not been scanned it, yet, btw. lol

phaz0rz 09-13-2019 07:38 PM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
:lol:

You win. I didn't know the destination zip shows as the first couple digits when you scan the barcode.. until now.

Still though.. fact remains.. I was able to do that thing with the tracking stickers.

ebaystealth1974 09-14-2019 08:16 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1033710)
:lol:

You win. I didn't know the destination zip shows as the first couple digits when you scan the barcode.. until now.

:cheer::cheer:

yankee 09-14-2019 09:14 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
I never add tracking numbers to paypal invoices but that account is very old. I think 2003

ebaystealth1974 09-14-2019 09:23 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1033485)
The book is free, but what I was doing was illegal.

......................

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......
At that point though it was fine.. I'd already built a huge business off of a loophole. :clap:

We would get along great. I love how you referred to something illegal as a loophole! :lol:

phaz0rz 09-14-2019 09:26 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1033814)
We would get along great. I love how you referred to something illegal as a loophole! :lol:


Lol, isn't it the textbook definition?

https://i.postimg.cc/FHf5MKhr/Untitled.png

yankee 09-14-2019 09:30 AM

Re: using usps labels not shipped
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1033816)
Lol, isn't it the textbook definition?

https://i.postimg.cc/FHf5MKhr/Untitled.png

I wasn't supposed to be able to send parcels in that way but I found a way to do so by essentially bribing my mail carrier.

Illegal, loophole, bribing. All you need next is extortion and blackmail and you could be running a gang or be a mob boss :laugh::pound:


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