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SaiJin 01-26-2021 06:43 PM

Windows 10 reformat
 
Gah! one of my computers came with windows 10...

Is it enough to do a "reset" on it? Does it work like a "format" on windows 7 ?

Pandoras_box 01-26-2021 07:12 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
It is similar to windows 7 - but whether or not it has an image that you can use to 'reset' it depends on the manufacturer. If it is a branded PC or laptop, it should come with an image on a partitioned drive.

If it is a clone computer, it wouldn't have this image so you'd have to download your OS from MS which can be done if you supply your license key on the sticker.

Are you trying to downgrade to Windows 7 or are you just trying to reset it because you don't trust an install you did not do yourself?

e2free 01-26-2021 09:03 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
I would not trust windows 10 specially for Amazon their system is much more clever then we think

degsey69 01-26-2021 09:06 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
How to Factory Reset Windows 10
Open Settings. Click the Start Menu and select the gear icon in the lower left to open up the Settings window. ...
Choose Recovery Options. Click the Recovery tab and select Get started under Reset this PC. ...
Save or Remove Files. At this point, you have two options. ...
Reset Your Computer.

SaiJin 01-27-2021 12:37 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1138650)
It is similar to windows 7 - but whether or not it has an image that you can use to 'reset' it depends on the manufacturer. If it is a branded PC or laptop, it should come with an image on a partitioned drive.

If it is a clone computer, it wouldn't have this image so you'd have to download your OS from MS which can be done if you supply your license key on the sticker.

Are you trying to downgrade to Windows 7 or are you just trying to reset it because you don't trust an install you did not do yourself?


I'm trying to reuse the computer for amazon.
I normally reinstall windows on Win7 Pro, but this is Win10 and I'm not used to it.

It's an ACER inspire laptop...

SaiJin 01-27-2021 12:38 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by degsey69 (Post 1138673)
How to Factory Reset Windows 10
Open Settings. Click the Start Menu and select the gear icon in the lower left to open up the Settings window. ...
Choose Recovery Options. Click the Recovery tab and select Get started under Reset this PC. ...
Save or Remove Files. At this point, you have two options. ...
Reset Your Computer.

Ya, that's what I've been doing... just wondering if that's the equivalent of a windows reinstall like win 7 .

Phd 01-28-2021 11:44 AM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
As long as you set up new window user accounts for your AZ accounts, you will be good. Been using '10' since the beginning of it, without any issues at all

SaiJin 01-29-2021 02:13 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Well I have to use a new Microsoft account to even login and I only use 1 az account on 1 laptop.

I hope that new Microsoft account counts as a new windows user account since I did a remove all reset.

Phd 01-29-2021 02:20 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1139179)
Well I have to use a new Microsoft account to even login and I only use 1 az account on 1 laptop.

I hope that new Microsoft account counts as a new windows user account since I did a remove all reset.

I use one laptop that has 4 user accounts for our 4 AZ accounts. Been doing it for 5+ years without an issue. 2 each accounts are on the same platform, but i do use a different internet stick for all accounts.
Hope that helps.

ilcarletto 01-29-2021 02:28 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phd (Post 1139182)
I use one laptop that has 4 user accounts for our 4 AZ accounts. Been doing it for 5+ years without an issue. 2 each accounts are on the same platform, but i do use a different internet stick for all accounts.
Hope that helps.


if you want to be 100% sure to have a fresh installation i would format the HD and install windows 10 from scratch from microsoft site:

https://www.microsoft.com/it-it/soft...load/windows10
(I am redirected on the italian page but you should find the one you need)

You might need to download a W10 .iso image so before formatting the machine burn the iso on s DVD or make sure you know how to boot from USB.

You can also collect windows drivers from your actual PC if you want to make sure that all your HW will work as before
Here are some tools to do so:

https://www.raymond.cc/blog/how-to-backup-your-drivers/

I haven't reinstalled W10 yet so this is what I used to do in the past.

SaiJin 01-29-2021 03:08 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Does this work for a branded laptop like Acer and HP ?

ilcarletto 01-29-2021 04:01 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
laptop might be tricky, you are right but I guess it should be on the divers side only...

In any case, they all should have a "factory reset" option at startup
For example if you want to get rid of it and sell it to someone, all data and previous infos shall be erased

Pandoras_box 01-29-2021 09:00 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1139186)
Does this work for a branded laptop like Acer and HP ?

Branded computers are better as you'd find hardware drivers on your manufacturer's website.
You only need a graphic, sound, ethernet/wifi and onboard chipset drivers. These you'd find on their website. The rest are probably bloatware.

I think you first have to decide if you wish to have 7 or 10 on your laptop. Personally, I prefer Windows 7 as it is faster, and have less bloatware and nearly zero telemetry.
If you'd prefer to work with Windows 7, you can download Windows 10 drivers form the manufacturer's website and extract the contents of the .exe / msi files before installation and let windows 7 select the relevant driver files.

If you'd rather work with win 10, you should consider a fresh install and use the downloaded drivers as is.

Whichever OS you choose, you can use Acronis True Image to create an image of your laptop. Should anything go wrong in the future, you can restore your image in a few minutes.

degsey69 01-30-2021 12:35 AM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
The number one rule is to use a computer once only for each Amazon account, reformatting the hard drive, loading a fresh Windows 10 on it will not stop the PC from being associated from the previous banned account. If you lose an Amazon account, lose the PC you used to access it and buy another for the new account.

Pandoras_box 01-30-2021 12:22 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by degsey69 (Post 1139250)
The number one rule is to use a computer once only for each Amazon account, reformatting the hard drive, loading a fresh Windows 10 on it will not stop the PC from being associated from the previous banned account. If you lose an Amazon account, lose the PC you used to access it and buy another for the new account.

Actually, you can. No need for a new PC even if you run multiple Amazon accounts. Windows only need a few tweaks to change it's entire 'fingerprint.'


Here's a way to run multiple Amazon accounts on one PC:
Most PCs come with onboard chipsets for audio, Lan, USB and Graphics but it should also have PCI slots.

Get a new set of Audio, Lan, USB and Graphics Cards. HP or Dell will do.

You should now have 2 of each: One set integrated on your motherboard and the copies you just bought.

Using Permutations without Repetition, you can work out (with a pen and paper) several possible profiles to create a distinct combination each time.

Example: Onboard_Audio, Onboard_Lan, Onboard_USB and Onboard_Graphics = 1'st Profile
PCI_Audio, PCI_Lan, PCI_USB and PCI_Graphics Card =2nd Profile
Onboard_Audio, PCI_Lan, Onboard_USB and PCI_Graphics Card = 3rd Profile and so on.

You can take this further by throwing in revised drivers for the onboard chipsets and PCI cards. Further permutation of these should give you a large array of unique profiles.

When you have your list of profiles, you can go on to multiboot your PC using any combination of OS of your choice.

Each OS installations will be the equivalent of a brand new PC.

Amazon will have no clue because each OS and combination of Chipsets/PCI cards/drivers is indeed a brand new PC. It's only running in the same box to save cost.

SaiJin 01-30-2021 04:09 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1139222)
Branded computers are better as you'd find hardware drivers on your manufacturer's website.
You only need a graphic, sound, ethernet/wifi and onboard chipset drivers. These you'd find on their website. The rest are probably bloatware.

I think you first have to decide if you wish to have 7 or 10 on your laptop. Personally, I prefer Windows 7 as it is faster, and have less bloatware and nearly zero telemetry.
If you'd prefer to work with Windows 7, you can download Windows 10 drivers form the manufacturer's website and extract the contents of the .exe / msi files before installation and let windows 7 select the relevant driver files.

If you'd rather work with win 10, you should consider a fresh install and use the downloaded drivers as is.

Whichever OS you choose, you can use Acronis True Image to create an image of your laptop. Should anything go wrong in the future, you can restore your image in a few minutes.


it automatically comes with windows 10 and I have to create a Microsoft account to even use the PC -_-

I've recycled this PC 2x now and just did a remove all reset.

Pandoras_box 01-30-2021 04:47 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SaiJin (Post 1139337)
it automatically comes with windows 10 and I have to create a Microsoft account to even use the PC -_-

I've recycled this PC 2x now and just did a remove all reset.

You can avoid creating an MS account, just skip it and use a local user account instead.
You can implement my post above and have multiple instances of Windows 10 or Windows 7 all on the same PC.

e2free 01-30-2021 05:46 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Actually just to clarify you dont needs to do this for Amazon accounts on same pc, wmware with unique settings will do the job, I create many accounts on same pc and its never linked

SaiJin 01-31-2021 08:12 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1139343)
You can avoid creating an MS account, just skip it and use a local user account instead.
You can implement my post above and have multiple instances of Windows 10 or Windows 7 all on the same PC.

Oh really? I didn't know I can skip it as it didn't let me do that...

I have another acer laptop I need to reset so gonna try that.

How do I make a local user account?

Pandoras_box 02-01-2021 02:43 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
When completing the installation on the sign-in prompt, enter your previous MS account user, and an incorrect password. After the third attempt, a local account option should appear.

If that doesn't work.

Try this:
Disconnect your internet connection, then click "Create account."
The page should throw up an error saying something went wrong, click "Skip"
On the third page, enter the intended username for your local account. Enter a password and set up security question - and that should do it.
You can plug in your ethernet cable when you get to your desktop environment.

SaiJin 02-01-2021 04:02 PM

Re: Windows 10 reformat
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pandoras_box (Post 1139606)
When completing the installation on the sign-in prompt, enter your previous MS account user, and an incorrect password. After the third attempt, a local account option should appear.

If that doesn't work.

Try this:
Disconnect your internet connection, then click "Create account."
The page should throw up an error saying something went wrong, click "Skip"
On the third page, enter the intended username for your local account. Enter a password and set up security question - and that should do it.
You can plug in your ethernet cable when you get to your desktop environment.

Gotcha, I'll try that since I need to setup a new account.

Thanks!


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