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| quantum | 01-06-2026 10:33 PM |
any brand ungating services out there?
any brand ungating services out there? willing to pay |
| yobar | 01-07-2026 04:48 AM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
hi
what brand needed? |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Need to clarify the brand OP - different brands require different legwork/movement |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum
(Post 1264234)
any brand ungating services out there? willing to pay
| If only invoices needed, get Adobe acrob plus. Lets you edit any pdf like a word document. Even converts a jpg scan into pdf and then edit it.
I have done this for over 6 years and only had one bounce, whether it was an invoice, bank statement, business license, etc.
Worth every penny spent on it.
PhD |
| agent006140 | 01-07-2026 01:46 PM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Are there not some categories which only certain merchants can sell?Like AAPL phones by AAPL??? |
| SaiJin | 01-07-2026 01:55 PM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phd
(Post 1264248)
If only invoices needed, get Adobe acrob plus. Lets you edit any pdf like a word document. Even converts a jpg scan into pdf and then edit it.
I have done this for over 6 years and only had one bounce, whether it was an invoice, bank statement, business license, etc.
Worth every penny spent on it.
PhD
| How much is adobe acrobat plus?
Is that the best one? |
| phaz0rz | 01-07-2026 03:31 PM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
There are freeware PDF editors that work exactly the same without the expense. PDF exchange editor is one option but there's plenty of ways to edit PDFs. |
| agent006140 | 01-07-2026 04:36 PM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phd
(Post 1264248)
If only invoices needed, get Adobe acrob plus. Lets you edit any pdf like a word document. Even converts a jpg scan into pdf and then edit it.
I have done this for over 6 years and only had one bounce, whether it was an invoice, bank statement, business license, etc.
Worth every penny spent on it.
PhD
| Does AMZn call your vendor to confirm? |
| quantum | 01-07-2026 05:06 PM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
I've used basic MS paint, worked well in the past, but stopped working for me. I keep getting auto-rejection. Not sure what changed, maybe AI is detecting my elementary craftwork hah. Looking for big brands like honeywell, LG, Sony, etc. |
| phaz0rz | 01-07-2026 06:59 PM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
lol.. MS paint is just asking for trouble, friendo.. |
| yobar | 01-08-2026 04:51 AM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
why don't you invest in a professional, real service, instead of risking your acc potentially in the future by using edits and Photoshop? |
| agent006140 | 01-08-2026 08:02 AM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
what is a real professional service? |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1264252)
How much is adobe acrobat plus?
Is that the best one?
| Adobe Acrobat plus offers free trials which can be used effectively :FF: - just an option |
| quantum | 01-08-2026 11:07 AM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by yobar
(Post 1264277)
why don't you invest in a professional, real service, instead of risking your acc potentially in the future by using edits and Photoshop?
| Well yeah, this post was to find a professional service. |
| phaz0rz | 01-08-2026 04:04 PM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by yobar
(Post 1264277)
why don't you invest in a professional, real service, instead of risking your acc potentially in the future by using edits and Photoshop?
|
Why not master the craft yourself and hone your skills to professional level, instead of throwing money at a dodgy service that's likely to rip you off? :typing:
Just saying bro, you're kinda coming across as a salesman trying to sell me a shady service. |
| quantum | 01-09-2026 11:08 AM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Ok here's what I'm doing...
Using a legitimate old invoice and updating the below.. I screenshot the pdf, paste it onto paint, make the updates, then save it back as a pdf.
-Shipping address/billing address to match exactly what's on Amazon account.
-Modifying product/quantity to match the target brand/ASIN.
-Updating the invoice date to a recent date.
Question is.. Are they actually calling to verify the invoice? If so, that could explain the rejections, but these rejections are instant so its AI related. This invoice is from B&H Photo, I know it's a retailer and they say not to, but how the hell does AI know that?
Thanks in advance |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum
(Post 1264310)
Ok here's what I'm doing...
Using a legitimate old invoice and updating the below.. I screenshot the pdf, paste it onto paint, make the updates, then save it back as a pdf.
| Paint can't save to a PDF file, but if if could the metadata would show the program it was created with, you should print it out then scan it or take a photo. Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum
(Post 1264310)
Question is.. Are they actually calling to verify the invoice? If so, that could explain the rejections, but these rejections are instant so its AI related. This invoice is from B&H Photo, I know it's a retailer and they say not to, but how the hell does AI know that?
| How does AI know what? obviously it can recognise it a invoice from B&H Photo, its knows that is a retailer, and the prompt will have instructed it not to accept invoices from retailers.
Why don't you try uploading your PDF to your favourite AI tool and ask it if it thinks it a genuine invoice and if it thinks it will be accepted by AMZ and if not why not.
I actually just tried this with a random B&H Photo invoice i found on google and this was the result: Quote:
Task Summary:
You asked me to:
Analyze the invoice image for authenticity
Check the metadata
Determine if it can be used to ungate a category on Amazon Marketplace
My Analysis:
Authenticity: APPEARS GENUINE
✓ Correct B&H formatting, address (420 Ninth Ave, NYC), and contact details
✓ Proper order numbering system and complete payment information
✓ Serial number included (standard for high-value camera equipment)
✓ Natural paper texture and physical wear visible
✓ Manufacturer's rebate noted (common for camera gear)
✓ All details are internally consistent (dates, codes, pricing)
Metadata: STRIPPED
❌ All EXIF data removed (no camera info, timestamps, or location data)
❌ Only orientation tag remains (suggesting smartphone photo)
❌ Cannot verify when photo was taken or if document was manipulated
Amazon Ungating: WILL BE REJECTED
Retail Store - B&H is a retailer, not a wholesaler/distributor
Too Old - From January 2014 (10+ years); Amazon needs 90-180 days
Only 1 Unit - Amazon requires 10+ units minimum
Stripped Metadata - May raise authenticity concerns
Consumer Purchase - Personal transaction, not B2B wholesale
Conclusion: Legitimate retail invoice, but fails all Amazon ungating requirements.
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| agent006140 | 01-09-2026 04:52 PM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
AMZN does call your vendor,I am surprised they do not ask for an official invoice with the supplier name,address and phone on its own stationary,then your account name and number and list unit price x quantity,freight .
If it rejects instantly,it is because someone else may have used the same ⊗⊗⊗⊗ supplier and they have them on file,or depends on what you are selling,they have a list of legit suppliers(whole,distributor,factory) you are supposed to order from. |
| quantum | 01-09-2026 05:31 PM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ft16
(Post 1264311)
Paint can't save to a PDF file, but if if could the metadata would show the program it was created with, you should print it out then scan it or take a photo.
How does AI know what? obviously it can recognise it a invoice from B&H Photo, its knows that is a retailer, and the prompt will have instructed it not to accept invoices from retailers.
Why don't you try uploading your PDF to your favourite AI tool and ask it if it thinks it a genuine invoice and if it thinks it will be accepted by AMZ and if not why not.
I actually just tried this with a random B&H Photo invoice i found on google and this was the result:
|
Sorry print to PDF, not save to PDF. Ran your prompt on GPT with the invoice and this is what I have below..
Appears to be a B&H Photo Video invoice, a well-known and Amazon-accepted distributor.
This appears to be a customer copy, not explicitly labeled “Invoice” or “Wholesale Invoice” in bold at the top (Amazon prefers “Invoice” wording, though B&H invoices are often accepted).
Implications
Lack of metadata is not disqualifying.
Amazon does not require EXIF data.
However, absence of metadata means:
Amazon cannot verify scan origin (scanner vs. edited export)
Increases scrutiny if other elements look edited or inconsistent
The image does not show obvious signs of manipulation (no mismatched fonts, spacing issues, or visual artifacts). |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum
(Post 1264310)
Ok here's what I'm doing...
Using a legitimate old invoice and updating the below.. I screenshot the pdf, paste it onto paint, make the updates, then save it back as a pdf.
-Shipping address/billing address to match exactly what's on Amazon account.
-Modifying product/quantity to match the target brand/ASIN.
-Updating the invoice date to a recent date.
Question is.. Are they actually calling to verify the invoice? If so, that could explain the rejections, but these rejections are instant so its AI related. This invoice is from B&H Photo, I know it's a retailer and they say not to, but how the hell does AI know that?
Thanks in advance
| I do know that they can call vendors for ungating purposes - I like what ft16 did as an analytical try... |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by agent006140
(Post 1264261)
Does AMZn call your vendor to confirm?
| They never have. I always give my rep a heads up, just in case though.
From what I heard, AZ has a list of approved vendors. That's how AI can act so quickly on the reject of invoices.
PhD |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by SaiJin
(Post 1264252)
How much is adobe acrobat plus?
Is that the best one?
| Used to have the complete suite, as I am a photographer also. Needed lightroom and photoshop for editing.
The whole suite used to be $80/month, but I am guessing that pro acrobat alone would be 15-30 a month.
PhD |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum
(Post 1264313)
Sorry print to PDF, not save to PDF. Ran your prompt on GPT with the invoice and this is what I have below..
Appears to be a B&H Photo Video invoice, a well-known and Amazon-accepted distributor.
This appears to be a customer copy, not explicitly labeled “Invoice” or “Wholesale Invoice” in bold at the top (Amazon prefers “Invoice” wording, though B&H invoices are often accepted).
Implications
Lack of metadata is not disqualifying.
Amazon does not require EXIF data.
However, absence of metadata means:
Amazon cannot verify scan origin (scanner vs. edited export)
Increases scrutiny if other elements look edited or inconsistent
The image does not show obvious signs of manipulation (no mismatched fonts, spacing issues, or visual artifacts).
| The perfect way around it displaying any metadata is to save the doc, print it, scan as a jpeg, then submit.
Always worked for me.
PhD |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Phd
(Post 1264341)
The perfect way around it displaying any metadata is to save the doc, print it, scan as a jpeg, then submit.
Always worked for me.
PhD
| Right on - created a new source document so to speak |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
PDFGear is free and easier to use than Acrobat |
| yobar | 01-12-2026 08:48 AM |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum
(Post 1264313)
Sorry print to PDF, not save to PDF. Ran your prompt on GPT with the invoice and this is what I have below..
Appears to be a B&H Photo Video invoice, a well-known and Amazon-accepted distributor.
This appears to be a customer copy, not explicitly labeled “Invoice” or “Wholesale Invoice” in bold at the top (Amazon prefers “Invoice” wording, though B&H invoices are often accepted).
Implications
Lack of metadata is not disqualifying.
Amazon does not require EXIF data.
However, absence of metadata means:
Amazon cannot verify scan origin (scanner vs. edited export)
Increases scrutiny if other elements look edited or inconsistent
The image does not show obvious signs of manipulation (no mismatched fonts, spacing issues, or visual artifacts).
| Careful here — “printing/scanning to hide metadata” might get past a surface check sometimes, but it doesn’t solve the real issue: Amazon is evaluating invoice authenticity + supplier legitimacy + account consistency, and if they believe it’s altered or retail-only, it can escalate to bigger compliance flags. The safest long-term route is a clean wholesale source (invoice issued to your exact legal entity/address, matching dates, quantities, and product identifiers) and keeping your paper trail consistent across everything. If you want, share (without sensitive info) which category/brand you’re trying to ungate and what supplier type you’re using — there are a couple “clean” ways to structure this so it’s not a recurring headache. |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ft16
(Post 1264359)
PDFGear is free and easier to use than Acrobat
| Hmm I could be wrong but that program had issues with virus or spam few years ago - maybe improvded since then. |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 1264378)
Hmm I could be wrong but that program had issues with virus or spam few years ago - maybe improvded since then.
| Its pretty much the only PDF editor (other than Acrobat) that isn't a scam in someway, but as always people should do their own research before installing software from the internet. |
Re: any brand ungating services out there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by quantum
(Post 1264283)
Well yeah, this post was to find a professional service.
| There is none here.
Adobe acrobat is the best, you do whatever you like. |
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