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vix 01-27-2010 02:32 PM

What is the step by step proccess to avoiding amazon ban?
 
Ok so I taught we should make a simple step by step process on how to get pass a amazon ban. I recently got banned from amazon and am about to start a new account. Here is what I know so far if anyone knows other tips that I'm forgetting please post them so we can all help each other. Also can someone elaborate on why vmware might be helpful?


1) new name
2) new address
3) new ip
4) new bank account
5) cookies deleted

TGMT² 01-27-2010 02:49 PM

So many people on this forum have tried and tried to get back on Amazon after suspension with no success. And many more are claiming they have the secret, and they are the same ones getting booted time and time again.

I have yet to hear about a definitive work around for bypassing Amazons safeguards to getting back on after being suspended.

In my honest opinion it isn't going to happen unless you can use a real persons name that is not associated with you that has good credit, as I feel Amazon is doing a credit check on its members. (Just my opinion)

I am sure lots of other factors come into play just like eBays safeguards which are easy to circumvent.

vix 01-27-2010 02:52 PM

Thanks for the advice, I taught people were getting around amazon suspension rather easily or perhaps these people saying there getting around it are lying.

captainjack1980 01-27-2010 03:21 PM

I was wondering whether Amazon were credit checking sellers after reading about a few peoples problems with getting back on. It does sound likely doesn't it .

CaptainJack

Amazombie 01-27-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheyGotMeToo (Post 122173)
So many people on this forum have tried and tried to get back on Amazon after suspension with no success. And many more are claiming they have the secret, and they are the same ones getting booted time and time again.

I have yet to hear about a definitive work around for bypassing Amazons safeguards to getting back on after being suspended.

Getting on isn't the problem STAYING on is. Amazon keeps such a short lease on selling (velocity) limits for new sellers that even if you go over it a bit you get booted off without even a "DEAR JOHN" letter.

Amazon's best weapon is not technological its psychological....using a sellers greed against them.

Bottom line...open a lot of accounts with little activity and grow them SLOWLY over time.

vix 01-27-2010 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amazombie (Post 122177)
Getting on isn't the problem STAYING on is. Amazon keeps such a short lease on selling (velocity) limits for new sellers that even if you go over it a bit you get booted off without even a "DEAR JOHN" letter.

Amazon's best weapon is not technological its psychological....using a sellers greed against them.

Bottom line...open a lot of accounts with little activity and grow them SLOWLY over time.

hey bro you seem to have the most success out of the people here in getting back on amazon so im just curious. Do you do anything special besides what I posted in my first post also lets say i get on and get banned every 30 days and just keep on making new accounts whats the problem with that? Seeing as I still get my money right?

Amazombie 01-27-2010 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vix (Post 122178)
hey bro you seem to have the most success out of the people here in getting back on amazon so im just curious. Do you do anything special besides what I posted in my first post also lets say i get on and get banned every 30 days and just keep on making new accounts whats the problem with that? Seeing as I still get my money right?

Same thing as u except u need to create a separate USER LOGON in Windows for each acct. Buy the stealth book here since it is excellent & I still use it as a reference.

That is what I do I keep creating new accts. Who cares if I get banned every time since I am 100% guaranteed to get my money after 90 days.

Actually, the people who have the most success don't post/talk since they are too busy selling:) Me???? I just like to jibber jabber;)

ovidiu 01-27-2010 04:22 PM

Amazon does not do credit checks. They never asked you for your SS number.

TGMT² 01-27-2010 04:26 PM

^^^^ A soft credit check can be done with just a name and address. And if those don't match, You can bet Amazon will be saying "GOODBYE"!

TGMT² 01-27-2010 05:14 PM

I just spent the last half hour researching about credit checks.

I have found almost anybody can do a "Promotional Credit Check" on anybody for free by just having someones name and address. A Promotional Credit Check has a very limited amount of information, but does verify name-to-address.

I am not saying this is what Amazon does? It is just my personal opinion and theory that they do. :noidea:

vix 01-27-2010 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amazombie (Post 122183)
Same thing as u except u need to create a separate USER LOGON in Windows for each acct. Buy the stealth book here since it is excellent & I still use it as a reference.

That is what I do I keep creating new accts. Who cares if I get banned every time since I am 100% guaranteed to get my money after 90 days.

Actually, the people who have the most success don't post/talk since they are too busy selling:) Me???? I just like to jibber jabber;)

Oh interesting can you please elaborate on what the separate windows login is for like whats the purpose of it ?

OfficialGenius 01-27-2010 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheyGotMeToo (Post 122193)
I just spent the last half hour researching about credit checks.

I have found almost anybody can do a "Promotional Credit Check" on anybody for free by just having someones name and address. A Promotional Credit Check has a very limited amount of information, but does verify name-to-address.

I am not saying this is what Amazon does? It is just my personal opinion and theory that they do. :noidea:

Whitepages.com ;)

TGMT² 01-27-2010 09:57 PM

^^^ Not likely. Some whitepages still have me living in northern California. I haven't lived there since 1996

But Thanks for the random comment?

oge 01-27-2010 10:17 PM

I taught I saw a putty cat........



:typing:

Here We Go Again 01-27-2010 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vix (Post 122170)
1) new name
2) new address
3) new ip
4) new bank account
5) cookies deleted

These are just a FEW of the items that Amazon tracks on a users account.
There are a few more that get slightly technical.

The ONLY reason my Amazon accounts are currently getting suspended is because I blow the Amazon Velocity Limits on every account.
I can hit the magic daily order limit every time.
I can hit the magic over all order limit with zero feedback in a few days.
I can hit the magic dollar amount with zero feedback in just a few days.

I have figured out how to get accounts up and running.
I just choose to blow the Amazon Velocity Limits on every account.
I get my deposits 30 or 90 days after the account goes down.
No big deal.

If I wanted to NOT blow the Amazon Velocity Limits on every account I could.
I would then keep an account running as long as I wanted to.
Right now I just choose the 30 day - 90 day route.

It takes THINKING and STUDYING the art of Stealth young Padawan, if you wish to become a Master.

This is a game that is winnable with practice.
If someone just hands you the answers to life on every issue you would never learn anything.

vix 01-27-2010 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Here We Go Again (Post 122249)
These are just a FEW of the items that Amazon tracks on a users account.
There are a few more that get slightly technical.

The ONLY reason my Amazon accounts are currently getting suspended is because I blow the Amazon Velocity Limits on every account.
I can hit the magic daily order limit every time.
I can hit the magic over all order limit with zero feedback in a few days.
I can hit the magic dollar amount with zero feedback in just a few days.

I have figured out how to get accounts up and running.
I just choose to blow the Amazon Velocity Limits on every account.
I get my deposits 30 or 90 days after the account goes down.
No big deal.

If I wanted to NOT blow the Amazon Velocity Limits on every account I could.
I would then keep an account running as long as I wanted to.
Right now I just choose the 30 day - 90 day route.

It takes THINKING and STUDYING the art of Stealth young Padawan, if you wish to become a Master.

This is a game that is winnable with practice.
If someone just hands you the answers to life on every issue you would never learn anything.

Thanks bro, yeah I'm going to keep making accounts till I figure out what I'm doing wrong but would you be kind enough to throw a dog a few bones. Like at least 1 or 2 tips that I dont know of that could help me.

MadSam 01-27-2010 11:35 PM

Are you saying Amazon can link you by sales velocity? What is the sales velocity limit for new sellers?
Can Amazon link you by your inventory?

terrytibbs 01-28-2010 06:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madsam (Post 122269)
Are you saying Amazon can link you by sales velocity? What is the sales velocity limit for new sellers?
Can Amazon link you by your inventory?

what is all the fuss about, i got suspended 10 months ago, i just used my sisters laptop to make a new pro merchant account and i listed all the exact same things i used to sell on my old account straight away and even got sales within a few hours.

just used a new random name, new address, new telephone, new card, new laptop.

still going after 10 months, its pretty simple really.

nobody999 01-29-2010 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrytibbs (Post 122304)
what is all the fuss about, i got suspended 10 months ago, i just used my sisters laptop to make a new pro merchant account and i listed all the exact same things i used to sell on my old account straight away and even got sales within a few hours.

just used a new random name, new address, new telephone, new card, new laptop.

still going after 10 months, its pretty simple really.

how much sales are you doing? if your not doing much sales, you can get by without suspesion, but once you reach certain number of sales (sales velocity) you get 30 day suspesion

terrytibbs 01-29-2010 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nobody999 (Post 122456)
how much sales are you doing? if your not doing much sales, you can get by without suspesion, but once you reach certain number of sales (sales velocity) you get 30 day suspesion

i made sure i did half the sales i did on the account that got suspended for a few months, and then business as usual.

Amazombie 01-29-2010 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terrytibbs (Post 122479)
i made sure i did half the sales i did on the account that got suspended for a few months, and then business as usual.

Good strategy.

ovidiu 01-29-2010 03:15 PM

True. I agree that hitting the velocity limit is a red flag. Why would a (supposedly) totally new seller started selling like mad and acting like he knows what he's doing. There were several discussions about this on eBay too, but Amazon looks more closely.


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