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| oomalikoo | 10-13-2010 03:54 PM | I just got banned from amazon Is there any way to get it back?
edit: please move if this is in the wrong spot. |
Amazon ban = death of that account. All depends on what reason but even then forget it and move on. |
| E-Nertia | 10-13-2010 06:22 PM | Lucky for you, Amazon Ghost just got released. Pick up a copy and be back on Amazon in an hour or so! |
| Here We Go Again | 10-13-2010 07:47 PM | Please check out Aspkin's Amazon Ghost e-book.
There is a link in my signature.
The information in it is VERY valid and up to date. |
| oomalikoo | 10-13-2010 08:16 PM | yea I just got it. Anyway I can get VIP for buying it? :D
From september 1st to september 23rd I sold 850. I went over the 750 limit as you say. but why did they choose to ban me now?
they didnt even review me just completely banned me. I had only 2 feedback and I only sold one item today and they banned me as soon as it sold. |
| nobody999 | 10-13-2010 08:20 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by oomalikoo
(Post 173872)
yea I just got it. Anyway I can get VIP for buying it? :D
From september 1st to september 23rd I sold 850. I went over the 750 limit as you say. but why did they choose to ban me now?
they didnt even review me just completely banned me. I had only 2 feedback and I only sold one item today and they banned me as soon as it sold. |
what was the reason in the email amazon sent you? |
| jeffweico | 10-13-2010 08:50 PM | You really DO need to UNDERSTAND WHY Amazon banned you. And, unlike eBay, they usually give you a reason. So read the email they sent you.
Then ask yourself - can I correct this? If the asnwer is NO, then stealth accounts will also just get shut down.
But can I take a guess? You are selling box sets of DVD's and/or software?
Amazon cancels a lot of those seller accounts as many people try to sell counterfeit merchandise in those categories. Amazon sells that stuff as well, and they KNOW what real distributor pricing is. So when you try to sell that $299 box set of DVD's for $99.95, they KNOW what you are up to. Same thing when you try to sell Windows 7 Ultimate for $79.96. And even sellers with LEGITIMATE merchandise have a difficult time surviving in those categories. |
| jbluntz | 10-13-2010 09:06 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 173878)
You really DO need to UNDERSTAND WHY Amazon banned you. And, unlike eBay, they usually give you a reason. So read the email they sent you.
Then ask yourself - can I correct this? If the asnwer is NO, then stealth accounts will also just get shut down.
But can I take a guess? You are selling box sets of DVD's and/or software?
Amazon cancels a lot of those seller accounts as many people try to sell counterfeit merchandise in those categories. Amazon sells that stuff as well, and they KNOW what real distributor pricing is. So when you try to sell that $299 box set of DVD's for $99.95, they KNOW what you are up to. Same thing when you try to sell Windows 7 Ultimate for $79.96. And even sellers with LEGITIMATE merchandise have a difficult time surviving in those categories. | But when you sell them used, that's when it gets fun. |
| jeffweico | 10-13-2010 09:08 PM | OK...
I just saw in another post in another thread that you were banned for selling counterfeit items. You mentioned Disney DVD's.
Disney DVD's are probably THE MOST COUNTERFEITED DVD's in existence.
And, they are relatively easy to spot. First, all LEGITIMATE DISNEY DVD's come with a slipcover. Many of the counterfeits don't. Often, the package has misspellings in the description. The UPC codes are often wrong. Sometimes, they have the term "DVD-9" on the packaging, which would NEVER happen in the USA. And many of them do not come with those "Magic Rewards Codes". ALL legitimate Disney DVD's come with the Rewards Codes.
As for the DVD itself, they range in quality from "Cannot tell the difference" to TERRIBLE. And, for Region 1 discs, the included languages/subtitles are English, French, Spanish and Portugese. NOT English, Chinese, Thai, Farsi and whatever else.
You said that you did not have any complaints. I will add THAT YOU KNOW OF! Many times, a customer will report you directly to Amazon or the Motion Picture Association of America.
My best guess is that a customer complained to Amazon. Amazon looked at what you were selling and - in their best judgment - thought they MAY BE counterfeits. And that is enough to lose an account. Amazon does NOT have to PROVE that you are selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗. They can close your account on suspicion alone. And they have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy on this matter, so there is NO WAY to get the account back.
Please don't misunderstand, I am not judging you. I do not know you. Maybe you WERE selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗, and maybe you WERE NOT selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗. But Amazon seems to think that you were.... |
| oomalikoo | 10-14-2010 09:30 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 173883)
OK...
I just saw in another post in another thread that you were banned for selling counterfeit items. You mentioned Disney DVD's.
Disney DVD's are probably THE MOST COUNTERFEITED DVD's in existence.
And, they are relatively easy to spot. First, all LEGITIMATE DISNEY DVD's come with a slipcover. Many of the counterfeits don't. Often, the package has misspellings in the description. The UPC codes are often wrong. Sometimes, they have the term "DVD-9" on the packaging, which would NEVER happen in the USA. And many of them do not come with those "Magic Rewards Codes". ALL legitimate Disney DVD's come with the Rewards Codes.
As for the DVD itself, they range in quality from "Cannot tell the difference" to TERRIBLE. And, for Region 1 discs, the included languages/subtitles are English, French, Spanish and Portugese. NOT English, Chinese, Thai, Farsi and whatever else.
You said that you did not have any complaints. I will add THAT YOU KNOW OF! Many times, a customer will report you directly to Amazon or the Motion Picture Association of America.
My best guess is that a customer complained to Amazon. Amazon looked at what you were selling and - in their best judgment - thought they MAY BE counterfeits. And that is enough to lose an account. Amazon does NOT have to PROVE that you are selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗. They can close your account on suspicion alone. And they have a ZERO TOLERANCE policy on this matter, so there is NO WAY to get the account back.
Please don't misunderstand, I am not judging you. I do not know you. Maybe you WERE selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗, and maybe you WERE NOT selling ⊗⊗⊗⊗. But Amazon seems to think that you were.... | it was insanity's
I did have one problem with a customer but I dont think he reported me. His dvd's wouldnt play so i sent another. I think maybe amazon read the messageS? |
| E-Nertia | 10-14-2010 11:30 AM | I'm not an expert, but anything Beachbody is also very risky. Very similar to the Disney DVDs or any **** media. |
| cherrqell | 10-14-2010 01:47 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by oomalikoo
(Post 174005)
it was insanity's
| Asking for trouble! eventually there will be a problem. |
| cardfelon | 10-14-2010 02:00 PM | Selling any Beachbody video line on Ebay or Amazon will lead to trouble. There are many threads that discuss it or just google it and see what you come up with. |
| Here We Go Again | 10-14-2010 02:55 PM | Beachbody is a big bitch.... |
| OfficialGenius | 10-14-2010 04:20 PM | How many Insanitys did you list?(Quantity?) and during what time frame? and did you sell them as 'used'? then we'll know what triggered this |
| newtools | 10-14-2010 06:07 PM | agree, stay away from Beachbody! and there are other sellers that report you and get you shut down. That pisses me off |
| jeffweico | 10-14-2010 06:54 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by oomalikoo
(Post 174005)
it was insanity's
I did have one problem with a customer but I dont think he reported me. His dvd's wouldnt play so i sent another. I think maybe amazon read the messageS? | Shaun Insanity, the P90X and Beachbody are all owned by a company called Product Partners, LLC. They enforce their copyrights VERY aggressively through their law firm, Johnson & Pham. Selling counterfeits is generally a bad idea, but selling these products even more so.
And YES, Amazon keeps records of all messages, so if they see that discs will not play, that could very well have done it also. Legitimate DVD's have a failure rate of well under one percent. Counterfeits have a failure rate of anywhere between 5% and 30%, depending on the source. So if you receive a lot of complaints about defective discs, this will tip Amazon off as well. |
| oomalikoo | 10-14-2010 09:35 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 174145)
Shaun Insanity, the P90X and Beachbody are all owned by a company called Product Partners, LLC. They enforce their copyrights VERY aggressively through their law firm, Johnson & Pham. Selling counterfeits is generally a bad idea, but selling these products even more so.
And YES, Amazon keeps records of all messages, so if they see that discs will not play, that could very well have done it also. Legitimate DVD's have a failure rate of well under one percent. Counterfeits have a failure rate of anywhere between 5% and 30%, depending on the source. So if you receive a lot of complaints about defective discs, this will tip Amazon off as well. | Thank You. Im positive it was the messages. |
| jbluntz | 10-14-2010 09:43 PM | If you were selling them as used then that shoudn't of been a problem, lot's of used dvds are defective, you must have listed it as new and Amazon read the message. |
| ninjavega | 05-22-2011 07:55 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 174145)
Shaun Insanity, the P90X and Beachbody are all owned by a company called Product Partners, LLC. They enforce their copyrights VERY aggressively through their law firm, Johnson & Pham. Selling counterfeits is generally a bad idea, but selling these products even more so.
And YES, Amazon keeps records of all messages, so if they see that discs will not play, that could very well have done it also. Legitimate DVD's have a failure rate of well under one percent. Counterfeits have a failure rate of anywhere between 5% and 30%, depending on the source. So if you receive a lot of complaints about defective discs, this will tip Amazon off as well. | Whats really sad is I see people claim "real DVD's have a failure rate of less than 1%", I also see this type of statement from manufacturers and from stores.
The truth is a well hidden fact, most people simply do not buy enough quantity to know: real DVD's have a failure rate of at least 5%.
I know this from personal experience.
I personally own more than 1000 DVD's and have watched all of them (over a period of about 12 years), I've also watched 100's more that I no longer own.
In my personal experience I have had failure rate of between 5 and 10% each year (5 to 10 returns on about 100 purchases per year)
Anything I buy for myself is from either Columbia House or from actual retail merchants: Walmart, Target, Kmart, Blockbuster, etc.
Of the places I buy from Columbia House has the highest failure rate with Walmart close behind.
Some discs have been particularly unlucky, for example: Kickass(widescreen), I have yet to personally own a copy that is 100% perfect. So far kickass has had a 100% defective rate with 4 copies from 4 different sources all brand new, factory sealed. I bought my first from Columbia House, my second from Amazon, my third from Walmart and my fourth from Blockbuster.
The blockbuster and walmart copies I returned for a refund, columbia house I returned for an exchange (still waiting on the new one to arrive), and the amazon copy I returned for an exchange (it just arrived). I havent had a chance to try the new one from Amazon (that will be the 5th one I've tried). If it works I'll keep it and sell the copy I get back from columbia house. If it doesnt than I'll send it back to amazon for refund and test the columbia house replacement.
I went through something similar last year with Doctor Who sets. I bought all 5 of the new series plus the movie set, so 6 sets in total. EVERY set had at least 1 bad disc, some had 2, the worst had 3. It took me weeks to test my way through every set and than retest replacement discs. 4 of the sets I had purchased from columbia house, 1 I had purchased from best buy and 1 I had purchased from Amazon. As a last resort I ended up having to get some of the discs as netflix rentals and swapping them just to get playable copies in all 6 sets. Actually I am still in need of one more bonus disc to replace a bad one, but it doesnt have any episodes on that disc so it hasnt been a priority (netflix has been out of that bonus disc for more than a year and i dont feel like "buying" a new set to do a swap for only a bonus disc)
Amazon can pretend new DVDs have a low failure rate, but they are either ignorant or flat out lieing.
I don't think the average consumer sees the quantity of DVD's I go through to actually get a working failure rate over time the way I do.
As for testing "bootlegs" or copies, I've seen my share of those and was not including those numbers in anything I've talked about so far. The biggest risk I've seen with those is from poor quality and improper packaging. I once saw an NCIS season 5 bootleg with "6 discs" proudly displayed on the package, and inside was 6 discs. Unfortuantely whoever produced it failed to realize the real season 5 has 5 discs, the 6th disc was blank, they had no content to put on it. They had simply made it 6 discs to match all the other seasons that had 6 discs. Other than that, the packaging was 100% identical to the real thing and the other sets had the correct number of discs, all played properly. |
| ninjavega | 08-07-2011 01:18 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 173883)
OK...
And, they are relatively easy to spot. First, all LEGITIMATE DISNEY DVD's come with a slipcover. Many of the counterfeits don't. Often, the package has misspellings in the description. The UPC codes are often wrong. Sometimes, they have the term "DVD-9" on the packaging, which would NEVER happen in the USA. And many of them do not come with those "Magic Rewards Codes". ALL legitimate Disney DVD's come with the Rewards Codes. | Unless Walmart is now selling bootlegs, this is no longer true.
The local Walmart here has tons of disney DVD's that:
1. do not have slip covers
2. do not have security stickers holding the case shut (only the shrink wrap)
3. do not have disney rewards codes
4. UPC codes that do not match what is sold at other stores or on amazon
I've actually bought direct from China, product I am 99.9% certain was bootleg (as in I paid about $3 a dvd), and they matched 100% to what is being sold at our local walmart. The only difference is from Walmart it has a little walmart stick on it. |
| Iwuvcurrency | 08-11-2011 09:20 PM | Walmart sells bootleg paul mitchell stuffand other hair supply brands soo im sure it sells bootleg dvds too |
| ovidiu | 08-14-2011 02:17 PM | Walmart sells bootleg paul mitchell stuffand other hair supply brands soo im sure it sells bootleg dvds too
That sounds like BS. What proof does anyone have that Wal-mart sells bootlegs? Can you imagine the lawsuits? |
| Iwuvcurrency | 08-14-2011 08:50 PM | Look it up Paul Mitchell has been going after big stores like Walmart and Shopko because there selling bootleg products.... |
| livelifewild | 09-22-2011 08:47 PM | Ok that is so crazy..
I know a friend of a friend lol
they had gotten a few razors from china and they returned it to walmart.....when the scanned it, it showed up on their system and they refunded them the money on a gift card since there was no receipt.
HOLY CRAP can you imagine that? Is walmart seriously selling f ake items?? |
| Rampury | 09-26-2011 08:10 AM | Walmart is been selling bootleg or we get legit walmart kind Dvd from china? My friend have been swaping Dvds and even software at walmart for a while by buying couple of them from walmart and returning china one back to them and they scanned 100%. Try it and see for yourself. Walmart can do it with no problem as they are the biggest chain in the world. Biggest taxpayer and they can twist anything the way they want. |
| DogFacedBoy | 10-11-2011 04:19 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by livelifewild
(Post 271264)
Ok that is so crazy..
I know a friend of a friend lol
they had gotten a few razors from china and they returned it to walmart.....when the scanned it, it showed up on their system and they refunded them the money on a gift card since there was no receipt.
HOLY CRAP can you imagine that? Is walmart seriously selling f ake items?? | I have come across DVDs which I know are boot legs and looked at the ones being sold at Walmart and are nearly identical (the differences in the actual disks might be more apparent).
I would think as long as it hasn't been opened it could be returned for a giftcard which could be used to buy goods or even be sold itself on ebay |
| DVP1977 | 06-15-2012 05:12 AM | Just a dumb qestion, folks..
I'm from Russian Federation. Does I have any chance to sell through AMAZON?
I mean what kind of special things (like American bank account, merchant account or something like that) I need?
I have only EU bank account. |
| tinnt | 07-27-2012 07:45 AM | Is it better to sell on ebay or Amazon?
I don't have much experience, but I think Amazon wins.... |
| Eduktd | 07-27-2012 11:59 AM | List of Accepted Countries Quote:
Originally Posted by DVP1977
(Post 350449)
Just a dumb qestion, folks..
I'm from Russian Federation. Does I have any chance to sell through AMAZON?
I mean what kind of special things (like American bank account, merchant account or something like that) I need?
I have only EU bank account. | I think this belongs to another thread, but really quick.
you're in luck, there a list of countries where you can register an Amazon account and sell on Amazon.com (the U.S domain) and Russia is listed as one of them (see link below). So you can open a legit Amazon account from Russia.
You will need, a credit card/debit card that be charged internationally and later on (not right away) a bank account from U.S or E.U. in order to get paid. For a credit card refer to Amazon Ghost for more options or buy a virtual card. For the bank account I know payoneer ( Global Payments, Payroll Services & Money Transfer | Payoneer) offers a prepaid debit card that you can use to receive payments from Amazon. You don't have to be a U.S resident for payoneer all you need is your countries ID or passport to get the card...it takes a while to get it but it works.
This information is current because I tried it from **** and it works, my store is currently up and running... wait let me check..ahh yep still selling :ranger:
Also FYI.... you can also use fulfillment by Amazon and save tons on shipping and customs when selling to U.S customers. You send your stuff to Amazon in the U.S from Russia they ship to the customer here in the U.S, this helps eliminate the bias of your items showing as if they are being shipped from Russia and offers customers more delivery options. It's sick...
Oh and make sure you buy Amazon Ghost, you will need it.
It has allot of valuable information you need to know about staying on, Amazon (getting on is easy, staying on is harder)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=200417280#?_encoding=UTF8&tag=heaprcom05-20&linkCode=ur2&camp=1789&creative=390957 |
| ninjavega | 09-19-2012 08:45 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by tinnt
(Post 363337)
Is it better to sell on ebay or Amazon?
I don't have much experience, but I think Amazon wins.... | Use both.
Amazon has a much higher profit margin but is far harder to deal with. In the long run Amazon will have you jumping through hoops to pass their various investigations, drive you crazy with their stupid return policies and eventually just ban you and keep whatever money they owe you. But the profit margins are high enough to deal with it and try again.
eBay is far easier to deal with and generally will only give you trouble if you are selling bootlegs or ⊗⊗⊗⊗. Unfortunately the profit margins on eBay items tend to be among the lowest (with a few exceptions depending on category and seasonal timing).
If you actually expect to run a business online from home you will need to have both running (and even research other sales sites for the type of product you sell) just to keep an ongoing flow of income as either can suspend/ban you without notice, sometimes for months, sometimes for life.
I'd also recommend setting up your own personal website and not tell either eBay or Amazon what it is. Don't let them find out about it either (that way if you are ever banned you can make a new "amazon /ebay account without changing your personal website). Than you simply add in a thank you note to each of the orders you ship that includes your personal website. Customers appreciate the thank you note and become repeat direct buyers from your site. |
| tinnt | 09-20-2012 06:32 AM | Can you become a seller at Amazon without your Bank details? Just by adding your credit card? Or do I need both? |
| dancnbaby | 09-20-2012 11:20 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by tinnt
(Post 378039)
Can you become a seller at Amazon without your Bank details? Just by adding your credit card? Or do I need both? | You need a cc in case there are any chargebacks, etc and no money in your account when it comes time to deposit any funds you have from sales. You also need a checking account so they can deposit the funds.
So to answer your question, you need both a cc and checking account. |
| diddle | 10-13-2012 05:28 AM | We had our Amazon account closed months ago, it took off over night and we were doing between 10 & 20k a month. The product's we were selling are now being sold by Amazon, strange !?!?!? Our feedback went down to 95%, there are still people on amazon with feedback under 90%, wtf is it all about?
My misses still buys from Amazon, she has placed 2 order's in the last month, direct from Amazon, the 1st was for our son's birthday, it arrived a day late, after paying for 24hr delivery, the 2nd was for my Mums birthday, ordered Thursday for Friday delivery, again paid for 24hr delivery, still waiting. My point is, amazon does not let buyers leave feedback for orders direct from amazon, why not? Very unfair. Bullyboys. I sell a lot on Ebay & never ever have any trouble. |
| tinnt | 10-19-2012 01:56 PM | Hello everyone,
I've been banned from Amazon and would like to become a seller again on that site. Which bank information should I provide to them? Is there a (Ghost) Verified Bank Account available to Amazon? Do they really work? Please help!! |
| crocus | 10-26-2012 08:44 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by diddle
(Post 383606)
The products we were selling are now being sold by Amazon, strange !?!?!? | Amazon has been doing this for a long time. They don't just do it to the individual sellers, they do it to small and large retailers, too. If they see that a Marketplace Seller is selling a lot of a product, they go to the manufacturer or a big distributor and try to cut a good deal with them so that Amazon can undercut the Marketplace Seller. This is one reason many retailers have left Amazon Marketplace.
As poorly as eBay treats its sellers, at least they don't use this kind of shark tactic. |
| AmazonStealth | 10-27-2012 12:30 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by crocus
(Post 387576)
Amazon has been doing this for a long time. They don't just do it to the individual sellers, they do it to small and large retailers, too. If they see that a Marketplace Seller is selling a lot of a product, they go to the manufacturer or a big distributor and try to cut a good deal with them so that Amazon can undercut the Marketplace Seller. This is one reason many retailers have left Amazon Marketplace.
As poorly as eBay treats its sellers, at least they don't use this kind of shark tactic. | This post is 100% a joke, and anyone who read it, please ignore it. Dont try to contribute false accusations, as it will only confuse other people. |
| crocus | 10-27-2012 11:02 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by AmazonStealth
(Post 387617)
This post is 100% a joke, and anyone who read it, please ignore it. Dont try to contribute false accusations, as it will only confuse other people. | Unfortunately, you're the clown and Amazon is a very dangerous business partner. Quote:
According to some industry experts, the issue at hand (which, again, has not been directly cited or commented on by either Amazon or any of the companies involved in the Marketplace exodus) is that many of the retailers using Amazon Marketplace are growing increasingly concerned with the very heart of the partnership. Namely, there has been talk that Amazon uses information that retailers provide to them to assist in the marketing of its own interests. Yet another theory espouses that Amazon could take a retailer’s product information and use it to deal directly with that retailer’s product suppliers, essentially removing the retailer itself from the process.
| Macy’s, Gap, and Buy.com leave Amazon Marketplace
This is just one example of many such complaints from sellers of all sizes. |
| Artann | 10-27-2012 12:43 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by AmazonStealth
(Post 387617)
This post is 100% a joke, and anyone who read it, please ignore it. Dont try to contribute false accusations, as it will only confuse other people. | ohhhh you are soooo wrong! |
| gdsco | 01-02-2013 06:33 PM | hi,
just go suspend/block from amazon again, first account was running for 14 days before it got blocked and new account got closed after two hours(used family members detail) can i setup account at friends address and add my new bank details?
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