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expiredpeanutbutter 06-22-2011 10:00 PM

Is Amazon safer to sell on or Ebay
 
I want to eventually start selling on Amazon but it seems like it might be harder to sell on than Ebay also I don't know much about Amazon. Basically does Amazon suspend people for no reason like Ebay does or is Amazon more lenient and understanding?

yellow0102 06-22-2011 11:10 PM

i have never had a bad experience on amazon. Just dont sell vero or high risk items

Tommy2tone 06-23-2011 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by expiredpeanutbutter (Post 242323)
I want to eventually start selling on Amazon but it seems like it might be harder to sell on than Ebay also I don't know much about Amazon. Basically does Amazon suspend people for no reason like Ebay does or is Amazon more lenient and understanding?

Easier in the sense Amazon doesn't require additional verification on the initial creation of an account. It's gotten so bad on eBay, I can't even sell a condom!

GrannyT 06-23-2011 01:21 PM

I recently started selling 'on the river' - bear in mind I am only talking here from my own experiences - but I like it. No listing fees for a start, many more products, stuff I've had on Ebay that has been taken down is in Amazons catalogue.

They strike me as a more adult company - Ebay seem very childish in comparison.

Early days yet and sales are slow but first impressions are that I like it.

I don't sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or vero though
:pop2:

stillselling 06-23-2011 01:32 PM

I like how easy it is to list items and modify quantities/prices on amaz. But, fees are outrageous, seller protection is nonexistent and they claim ownership of your customers forever.

expiredpeanutbutter 06-23-2011 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by stillselling (Post 242575)
I like how easy it is to list items and modify quantities/prices on amaz. But, fees are outrageous, seller protection is nonexistent and they claim ownership of your customers forever.

what do you mean "claim ownership of customers"?

rsot 06-23-2011 03:45 PM

@GTran, realize also that if a customer files an A-to-Z claim whether for real or to screw the seller, you will lose your cash AND your item.

GrannyT 06-23-2011 04:07 PM

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

BiN4RY 06-23-2011 04:35 PM

Amazon is a great marketplace for selling genuine and non risky products as they get more traffic than eBay. However, they will give you a nightmare much greater than eBay if you sell VeRO goods

Red X 06-23-2011 05:07 PM

Amazon Is way easier, from my experience, I don't even touch eBay.

robsut 06-23-2011 05:21 PM

i prefer amazon to ebay, you have to take things alot slower and it will cost you a few accounts to find your limits you can sell at and also the amount of money you can take, i surgest buy the amazon ghost, i did and it was that which perfected everything, from the things i already knew to the ones i knew nothing about.i now have many accounts up and running.

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Originally Posted by GrannyT (Post 242569)
I recently started selling 'on the river' - bear in mind I am only talking here from my own experiences - but I like it. No listing fees for a start, many more products, stuff I've had on Ebay that has been taken down is in Amazons catalogue.

They strike me as a more adult company - Ebay seem very childish in comparison.

Early days yet and sales are slow but first impressions are that I like it.

I don't sell ⊗⊗⊗⊗ or vero though
:pop2:


Ghost 06-23-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by rsot (Post 242649)
@GTran, realize also that if a customer files an A-to-Z claim whether for real or to screw the seller, you will lose your cash AND your item.

Buyers have a limit on the number of these A-Z claims they can make, though. In any case you're still not likely to have a customer pull this on you intentionally unless you're selling something high-risk or VERO as mentioned above.

Melissa1971 06-23-2011 09:51 PM

I love Amazon. Their Reps are good listeners, easy to relate to so far. They've been very kind to me. Amazon seems to attract a better customer imho, less thieves. But you need to watch your P's and Q's, show class in dealing with customers as it's all about customer service. I agree with Granny that Ebay is a bit childish compared to Amazon, you really can deal with some doozies on Ebay, including those that call names, make snide remarks, many buyers show poor relational skills. Amazon is a whole different ballgame

nobody999 06-23-2011 10:20 PM

if you get suspended, the chances of getting back is next to zero

BiN4RY 06-23-2011 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by nobody999 (Post 242759)
if you get suspended, the chances of getting back is next to zero

Difficult doesn't equal to zero

Ghost 06-24-2011 12:58 AM

Amazon is to eBay, what filet mignon is to bologna cold cuts.

GrannyT 06-24-2011 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Ghost (Post 242799)
Amazon is to eBay, what filet mignon is to bologna cold cuts.

Now we are talking - when do we eat? LOL

Giardino 06-24-2011 09:43 AM

I was under the impression that whenever you even tried to list a Vero or high-risk item, it threw an error in your face saying something like "this item is restricted to specific sellers only, please send an email to blah blah to request permission"

??


Also


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Originally Posted by nobody999 (Post 242759)
if you get suspended, the chances of getting back is next to zero

:slap:

rsot 06-24-2011 09:45 AM

Very true - any buyer account can have max 3 A-to-Z claims per lifetime.

Giardino 06-24-2011 09:48 AM

What I mean by the error is that from personal experience and just for funsies, I tried listing 1 windows 7 and it was like "WOOP WOOOP ERROR ERROR *Turrets come out and point at me* ERROR ERROR *guns loading sound*"

expiredpeanutbutter 06-24-2011 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Giardino (Post 242888)
What I mean by the error is that from personal experience and just for funsies, I tried listing 1 windows 7 and it was like "WOOP WOOOP ERROR ERROR *Turrets come out and point at me* ERROR ERROR *guns loading sound*"

lol your a funny guy man

amazonian 06-24-2011 06:50 PM

As a seller, I've had VERY few A-Z claims filed against me. Usually it was my fault anyway.

boszika 06-26-2011 03:39 PM

Amazon fees are very high. For a $20 item ,I was charged $4. Which is like 20%.

The interface is much more advanced. People will also buy anything and everything on Amazon. I had books put up that everybody sold for a penny and I sold for $4. Go figure.

Ghost 06-27-2011 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by boszika (Post 243716)
Amazon fees are very high. For a $20 item ,I was charged $4. Which is like 20%.

But in the end, would it still be worse than eBay who tacks on a BIN fee just to list the thing at a fixed price, a recurring store fee if you want to keep the item listing up indefinitely like you could on Amazon, not to mention extra Paypal fees on top of the set eBay closing value fee??

Disclaimer: I haven't used eBay to sell anything in a long time so I may be way off here. :D

GrannyT 06-27-2011 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghost (Post 243931)
But in the end, would it still be worse than eBay who tacks on a BIN fee just to list the thing at a fixed price, a recurring store fee if you want to keep the item listing up indefinitely like you could on Amazon, not to mention extra Paypal fees on top of the set eBay closing value fee??

Disclaimer: I haven't used eBay to sell anything in a long time so I may be way off here. :D

Sounds to me like you are spot on Ghost
:pop2:

moeweezy 12-13-2011 09:22 PM

ebay has free listings now, and all you pay is final value fees. on amazon you have to pay very high commision, along with closing fee and the amazon shipping fee of .07 cents, i would still go with ebay if it wasn't so ignorant and suspicious about everything.

Gamefreak 12-14-2011 03:26 AM

Loving amazon! I spend half my day on the damn site selling and doing research for what to sell.

Its a slow start at first as buyers think hard of buying from you if you have little or no feedback but once you get started you will love it.

It takes a lot of time and effort to keep a good amazon account up an amazon can be a pain with their random reviews/reserves but at least you dont have to deal with paypal and their BS all the time.

The really bad thing about ebay is that it is saturated with chinese sellers who bring down the value of everything.

Ive seen a few on amazon but they dont usually last more than 2 months before amazon cans the account.

After selling on amazon for a year I see ebay as a complete waste of my time.


Fees for both are comparable, but with amazon they take it all out before you even see any money which I personally like as I dont have to worry about paying monthly fees.

Amazon has little restrictions if you start selling the right items early and have a good track record.

Ebay is so bad to me now that I have an account from 05 with 1700 feedback an I think hard of selling anything on there as I can sell it on amazon way faster.

rsot 12-14-2011 10:38 AM

Gamefreak are you selling any knock-offs?

davidnm 12-14-2011 10:47 AM

Dont do it. Amazon are just as bad if not worse.

I have always been a very large seller on Amazon, and recently they are acting simular to Ebay by putting 3 month hold on funds.

The problem with Amazon: if you start selling a lot of items which interfere with their own sales, then your be blocked and your funds will be placed on hold for 90 days.

Remember, Amazon have their own distribution and storage facilities and if you start to cost them business, they will close you down and make life very differcult.

My advise: Ensure you transfer your funds daily or stay clear of amazon.

Gamefreak 12-14-2011 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rsot (Post 295371)
Gamefreak are you selling any knock-offs?

I do but they are minor things and are really really good ones so 99% of the buyer cannot tell. If anyone contacts me about ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff I tell them to keep it an promptly issue full refund.

That usually solves the problem.

Recherché 12-14-2011 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Gamefreak (Post 295486)
I do but they are minor things and are really really good ones so 99% of the buyer cannot tell. If anyone contacts me about ⊗⊗⊗⊗ stuff I tell them to keep it an promptly issue full refund.

That usually solves the problem.

I do the same Gamefreak. I've always resolved the few customer complaints I receive. In fact, I have turned all of potential would be A-to-z claims or chargebacks into glowing positive feedbacks. Have been selling very risky media on accounts that are 1-2 years aged and still going very well.

Shadowmoe7 12-14-2011 06:11 PM

i dont recommend amazon at all,
esp if you wanna go stealth cause they will point blank delete the account and take your funds

dabig05 12-15-2011 12:15 PM

I like amz because sellers are scared to sell at a price way lower than amz. Thus you can get rid of your stuff at a reasonable price. BUT, on the other hand, they will shut you down in a heartbeat. I am looking to go back stealth, but change up the way I sold before.

Eb on the other hand, competition is fierce. But I like that they dont sell thier own merchandise like amz. Also the multi-shipping option is great.

In the end I think its easier to sell on eb, but you can make more money on amz if you dont get shut down.

davidnm 12-16-2011 03:21 AM

There is no differance between Ebay and Amazon, we were selling more on Amazon than Ebay but we were shut down.

We had 100% feedback, no disputes, 5 out 5 for communication, items, delivery. It Was a perfect operating account and they shut us down because we were selling too much. Now we have to wait 90 days for all the money.

Both Ebay and Amazon are good to sell, but always be prepared to be shut down and ensure your money is transferred daily. ~dont ever risk your money, when they shut you down, thats it! your money will be held for at least 90 days and 180 days with Ebay so be prepared.

After weeks of phoning them I have just managed to have ebay, lift the suspension on my largest account!

But I will not accept paypal as they owe my 3k, so it is cash only sales Im affaired.


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