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| brew7676 | 08-22-2012 07:35 PM | EIN - Address Question Long story short... I am using my wife's name on my amazon account, but using my mother's address as my amazon official address. This is because I don't want amazon to link me to my current address where I have a banned account.
Amazon is now asking for an EIN number. I looked at the interview questions and asked for the address information. The EIN number in my wife's name is at my current address and like I said my amazon account is at my mother's address. I plan to answer the question accurately (Linking my EIN number with my actual address) Will amazon be able to link me based on this interview or is it something that goes straight to the IRS?
Thanks! |
| slim jim | 08-22-2012 07:48 PM | I dont think anyone can see your EIN address but the address of the corp can pretty easily be found, that is the one that matters but wait to hear from others |
| brew7676 | 08-22-2012 08:04 PM | Its a Sole Proprietor number It is not a corp. |
| slim jim | 08-22-2012 09:09 PM | so what is it for? i can't read your mind |
| brew7676 | 08-22-2012 09:21 PM | It an EIN for a sole proprietorship. When I got to 50 sales, amazon told me that I needed to add an EIN number. I have one from the IRS. I have not added it yet because I want to make sure the address will not come back to bite me. |
| slim jim | 08-22-2012 09:47 PM | replace what i said about corp with sole proprietorship |
| brew7676 | 08-22-2012 10:00 PM | How would they find the address? And is this a way amazon normally limks banned accts? |
| jeffweico | 08-23-2012 12:29 AM | Quote:
Originally Posted by brew7676
(Post 370149)
How would they find the address? And is this a way amazon normally limks banned accts? | Yes, Amazon links accounts this way.
No, they cannot get the address from the IRS. They can only verify that the business name matches the EIN. If a sole proprietorship, then that is usually the owner's name. |
| brew7676 | 08-23-2012 05:29 AM | Thanks for all of the quick responses.
So, you are saying 1. Amazon does not link your address from then ein interview?
2. How would they link by my sole proprietor name to my false address without looking at the ein interview? |
| slim jim | 08-23-2012 11:07 AM | They are checking your db name and address. That info is pretty easy to get |
| brew7676 | 08-23-2012 05:31 PM | I have never read that Amazon made an effort to link people that way. If this is the case then every stealth account with an EIN number can get shut down |
| Mr. Invisible | 08-24-2012 08:25 AM | The information is easily accessible via court public records, but I don't believe either EB or AZ go that far as of yet. Can others confirm this? |
| slim jim | 08-24-2012 09:56 AM | most states have an online search where you can find out this info. the way to get around it is to use an agent which basically hides your own info. i do not think ebay is using this because i had an account running for a while as a biz but was registered under my suspended name and address. you could see that info online very easily |
| brew7676 | 08-24-2012 10:46 AM | While I agree with SlimJim that Amazon can check those records, I am willing to bet that they have enough going on that they will most likely not go to these lengths to shut down accounts. |
| Artann | 08-24-2012 01:53 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by slim jim
(Post 370235)
They are checking your db name and address. That info is pretty easy to get | if db is date of birth. Not really sure that it can be easily found? |
| slim jim | 08-24-2012 01:58 PM | dba name not dob, mispelling |
| brew7676 | 08-28-2012 07:00 PM | So, can someone please answer my original question? Will Amazon to trouble of trying to link my amazon registered address with my EIN addresss? Has anyone had experience with this? |
| Gamefreak | 08-28-2012 07:17 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by brew7676
(Post 371697)
So, can someone please answer my original question? Will Amazon to trouble of trying to link my amazon registered address with my EIN addresss? Has anyone had experience with this? | Cant say but amazon does verify the EIN info with the IRS and once they complete it and verify it it will say verify under your account. So with that said one can assume that they will check that info against theirs to see if the info matches any suspended user(s) and suspend that account in the process |
| brew7676 | 08-28-2012 07:30 PM | Thanks for the reply, but I thought that Amazon cannot see the address associated with the EIN? |
| Gamefreak | 08-28-2012 10:24 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by brew7676
(Post 371705)
Thanks for the reply, but I thought that Amazon cannot see the address associated with the EIN? | Well then idk exactly what they are verifying when they verify the EIN, one would think its the EIN, address, and name no? |
| brew7676 | 08-29-2012 10:00 AM | Yeah that is the question. I was under the impression the IRS verifies your EIN number and then sends an 'ok' back to Amazon. However, from what I have heard amazon cannot find out anything else about you from the EIN. |
| livelifewild | 08-29-2012 06:04 PM | Ok I basically have the same question, my ex has an ein that has never been used with amazon. It is sole p so its his legal first and last name and the address is an apt that we lived in two years ago lol. But its still an active ein. I have an amazon account that is over a year old and that is asking for tax id info by sept 30th.
Should I add the ein?
What does everyone think |
| alex068 | 08-29-2012 07:41 PM | I also have a question about ein's I'm going to be starting a llc now i have 4 ebays and 4 amazons at the moment in all diffrent names and addresses running great for the past couple months i was just wondering can i add a ein to more then one ebay and amazon once my sales goes over $20,000 a year. i was thinking about saying all my employee have ebay and amazons for me. what do you guys think. Thank you guys for all the info above it was useful!! |
| slim jim | 08-29-2012 10:26 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by livelifewild
(Post 372006)
Ok I basically have the same question, my ex has an ein that has never been used with amazon. It is sole p so its his legal first and last name and the address is an apt that we lived in two years ago lol. But its still an active ein. I have an amazon account that is over a year old and that is asking for tax id info by sept 30th.
Should I add the ein?
What does everyone think | why not change the address on the ein to avoid trouble? |
| livelifewild | 08-30-2012 12:37 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by slim jim
(Post 372070)
why not change the address on the ein to avoid trouble? | I could do that. If I did that, with the ein being his first and last legal name which is of course different from the amazon stealth account would that be enough? Would it be a problem or you think that they would accept it if the address at least matched? |
| brew7676 | 08-30-2012 02:20 PM | Just spoke with an accountant and he said that changing the address on the EIN or getting a new EIN with the other addresss is fine. |
| livelifewild | 08-30-2012 06:27 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by brew7676
(Post 372279)
Just spoke with an accountant and he said that changing the address on the EIN or getting a new EIN with the other addresss is fine. | If you have an accountant do you happen to know if you can have more than one EIN number per person? Cause the IRS gov site says this about EINS
Sole Proprietors
You will be required to obtain a new EIN if any of the following statements are true.
You are subject to a bankruptcy proceeding.
You incorporate.
You take in partners and operate as a partnership.
You purchase or inherit an existing business that you operate as a sole proprietorship.
You will not be required to obtain a new EIN if any of the following statements are true.
You change the name of your business.
You change your location and/or add other locations.
You operate multiple businesses.
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So basically stating that opening up another business (registering a new one) isnt an option to be able to get a new EIN. Says right there that operating multiple businesses you dont get a new ein. |
| Gamefreak | 08-30-2012 07:02 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by livelifewild
(Post 372335)
If you have an accountant do you happen to know if you can have more than one EIN number per person? Cause the IRS gov site says this about EINS
Sole Proprietors
You will be required to obtain a new EIN if any of the following statements are true.
You are subject to a bankruptcy proceeding.
You incorporate.
You take in partners and operate as a partnership.
You purchase or inherit an existing business that you operate as a sole proprietorship.
You will not be required to obtain a new EIN if any of the following statements are true.
You change the name of your business.
You change your location and/or add other locations.
You operate multiple businesses.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
So basically stating that opening up another business (registering a new one) isnt an option to be able to get a new EIN. Says right there that operating multiple businesses you dont get a new ein. |
u can have as many as you like as long as you have the proper paperwork/documents to backup all those EINs |
| livelifewild | 08-30-2012 07:18 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by Gamefreak
(Post 372340)
u can have as many as you like as long as you have the proper paperwork/documents to backup all those EINs | This is very interesting news, I suppose the irs site says you are not required to does not say that you can not.
I may actually try and do this then it is actually a very very good way to keep older accounts that are now getting slammed with the provide tax id. Better than loosing them.
I do have another question tho, opening and registering another business to get the new ein...does that not give you another sales tax account? |
| slim jim | 08-30-2012 07:38 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by livelifewild
(Post 372348)
This is very interesting news, I suppose the irs site says you are not required to does not say that you can not.
I may actually try and do this then it is actually a very very good way to keep older accounts that are now getting slammed with the provide tax id. Better than loosing them.
I do have another question tho, opening and registering another business to get the new ein...does that not give you another sales tax account? | yes it is a new sales tax account. the irs does not care how many business or ein you open. they encourage you to open as many as you want. the more businesses that open, the more that pay them $. you are opening a new entity, totally aside of yourself (this is the whole point of incorporating, to free yourself of liability in most cases) |
| GreenBean | 08-30-2012 07:43 PM | Quote:
Originally Posted by brew7676
(Post 371697)
So, can someone please answer my original question? Will Amazon to trouble of trying to link my amazon registered address with my EIN addresss? Has anyone had experience with this? | Did you read jeffweico's reply?
Amazon 'sends' the info of the EIN to the IRS.
The IRS either says yes to agree on the info OR no.
What amazon does NEXT has not been spoken about here yet that I am aware.
However, it is past time you get more info on tax matters from a forum.
That is not our place.
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