Worried

[LiveNdieinLA]

So awhile back I sold a expensive computer on a new stealth account.

The price of the computer was $2700. The buyer complained to amazon they never received the computer and I ended up losing the account and my account became negative $2700.

I recently signed on to the account to appeal again but amazon does not respond back.

There's no way I can take that loss and give the money to back amazon but I'm very worried about amazon pressing charges.

The tracking shows the package was delivered but amazon still took the buyers side.

[zoneout]

Dude, as much as I really do feel your pain and empathize I have to file this under "what were you thinking?"

I get signature request on anything over $200 and insurance on anything over $400. $2700 was just begging for a scammer.

I'm not sure what amazon does in these cases - I thought they pull from your backup accounts.

[jeffweico]

Amazon will try to pull the money from your bank account or your credit card.

But I don't think they could "press charges" as I do not believe a crime has been committed. You have a tracking number showing the item was sent and received. The buyer claims they never received it.

So, it is your word against his, but you have tracking to back you up. Keep in mind that I am not an attorney, but that sounds like a civil matter to me.


In the future, I would always get signature confirmation on such an expensive package and also insure any packages containing items that you cannot afford to lose. I would also only ship to the address given by Amazon.

[GreenBean]

You are more worried about being 'charged by amazon' than going after your own money?

Expand on what steps you took to avert being scammed.

[sacka_man]

I would close any bank accounts and credit cards that are associated with that Amazon account NOT just delete them from Amazon.

At that point I think Amazon will be SOL and have to eat the $2700, since they already refunded the buyer.

For future reference ALWAYS get signature confirmation on items you ship worth more than $200, and don't sell expensive items like that until the account is established.

[n8zzz]

Steps to avoid getting scammed (in order):

1. google the address (and map it) -> expensive orders going to PO boxes are a red flag
2. google the telephone number (very useful) -> if not sure, call it
3. get signature confirmation on most things over $100 (or an amount you feel comfortable with)
4. get insurance (in this OP's situation, buyer claimed he didn't get it, buyer signs form saying he did not, OP gets back $2700 less the cost of insurance and shipping)
5. It's all about volume -> the guys who sells 1,000 items for $10 each will usually get less screwed than the guy that only 4 items for $2,500 each. If you insure though, you should theoretically be fine.

A good scammer will ALWAYS get their money back. It's your duty to make sure you did everything possible to not lose at the same time.

Wait, I gotta repeat that. A good scammer will ALWAYS get their money back. Talking about pressing charges, filing police reports, blah blah... waste of time, leads to nothing, comfort blanket.

[zoneout]

Agree with the above in the case of lost item claim. A SNAD scammer makes it a bit harder to protect yourself. Certainly for an item close to 3 grand I would seriously consider using an escrow service.

[Dmshark25]

Yea they won't sue you they may send it to a collection agency and put a mark on your credit but no crime was committed by you

[slapped]

I Would Contact the Local authorities in the Area where it was delivered, The Postal Police (If USPS was involved), and the Local FBI (a crime that involves Multiple States can be federal).

Then send a Copy of the FBI Statement that you made to the Local Police AND Amazons LEGAL Department, then send a Copy of the Statement that you made to the Local Police to the FBI AND again Amazons LEGAL Department, and ANYONE ELSE that you can think of to get involved.

Basically Light as MANY Fires under Peoples ASSES as possible until someone goes over to that address and Does SOMETHING,,,do this and you WILL at LEAST get Amazons attention,,

[RosieTosie]

Originally Posted by slapped

I Would Contact the Local authorities in the Area where it was delivered, The Postal Police (If USPS was involved), and the Local FBI (a crime that involves Multiple States can be federal).

Then send a Copy of the FBI Statement that you made to the Local Police AND Amazons LEGAL Department, then send a Copy of the Statement that you made to the Local Police to the FBI AND again Amazons LEGAL Department, and ANYONE ELSE that you can think of to get involved.

Basically Light as MANY Fires under Peoples ASSES as possible until someone goes over to that address and Does SOMETHING,,,do this and you WILL at LEAST get Amazons attention,,

Like your thinking on this one slapped!

[rsot]

Nice thread revival Rosie too bad we never heard back from OP

[danshan]

Yeah right fbi will laugh at you if they even reply and the local police will tell you it is a civil matter. There are 1 million cops in total and 1 million scams a day. Ic3 and all the rest of them are a joke.