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Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 

Hey Folks,

I used to be a seller on Amazon about 5 years ago. They banned me with over 1.3k in my account. They asked me to wait the 90 days and I would get my money. The days passed after the 90 and got the email saying it was on its way. Weeks passed and it still never showed up.

I was then told I will never get my money back via email.

It's now 5 years down the line. I'm looking to find a lawyer and who to contact at Amazon so I can take them to the cleaners.

Trading Standards reviewed my case and said they have broke several UK Laws.

Compensation should be nice for the 5 years of me calling and emailing them.

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You may be fighting a loosing battle with that one.

I hate to say it but the sheer amount of work you would need to go though to get your 1.3k back is just not going to be worth it. And chances are you still would not get your money back

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Are you serious? Don't even think of doing this in a million years.
if they had taken 100k I'd still say leave it.

But for 1.3k you are going to lose a hell of a lot of money just getting this in front of a judge.

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When you lose i hope you are aware of the consequences that comes with taking a company like amazon to court

Amazon will dig through its system and find everything you did wrong for them to withhold your money. If you are a lawyer go for it otherwise stay away.

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Already spoken to a few lawyers in my area and pointed me in the right direction.

They have already looked over my evidence and have a strong case.

I don't even need a lawyer they told me. Small claims court I can claim up to 5k within the UK.

Some of the UK papers are also willing to help cover a story so hopefully it ****s in Amazons faces.

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Sorry Buddy, all I can say you have pretty crap lawyers, or in the Uk solicitors. You cannot take amazon to Court in the UK, it is not a UK company. The company is a SARL which is registered in Luxembourg. Your Lawyers sound like amazon, they will take your money and you give nothing. Forget your quest, all will do is lose more money.

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Just move on, the time you will spend on this, you could of made 10x the amount of money you lost previously by setting up new accounts.

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I guess guys are right but surly someone needs to step up and stop this madness ?

eBay/PayPal/Amazon they are all the same.

Will see what the legal team think.

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Has anyone tried calling Amazon corporate and talked directly with them regarding this kinda stuff? They are higher up in the chain.

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:surrender::surrender::surrender:

What legal team?

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I have tried to call Amazon HQ. You don't get very far as the team you need "Account Specialists" are only contactable via email.

They must be like some kind of entity haha.

When I said "My Legal Team" I meant the lawyer I was speaking to. I still think I have a case if trading standards are willing to help.

Someone just needs to stand up to them and battle. A court can never go in Amazons favor if all the evidence is right in front of them ? Like i said in the UK we have small claims court. No lawyers and only a £50 fee to pay. :uk:

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Yeah why hasn't anyone taken these guys to small claims court yet?

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They have deleted your account for a reason and you're not getting it back.

Get the Amazon Ghost guide and start fresh. Forget lawyers!

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I would love to hear about this 'evidence' that keeps getting mentioned :brushteeth:

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You might actually have a chance in the small claims court as Luxembourg is in the EU and I doubt Amazon would bother to send any representation.

But is it really worth it. Amazon are not going to "learn a lesson" from this even if you do win. Stories of them keeping £1200 is not going to bring down one of the biggest companies in the world.

I would seriously try outlining your story and sending it to the managingdirector email. After this much time I doubt you will get it back but it's worth a 5 minute email.

More than that and you are going to be getting minimum wage or less with the amount of time and stress this will take you.

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your best bet here is public shame.... get this on a front page of popular site and you will get results. But for that kind of money i don't see that happening. Now if you are talking 100k then yes but for this no.

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Barry, yes you may get a judgment in small claims, but it worthless as amazon.co.uk ltd is not the Company you are doing business with, a quote from the Guardian

"Confusingly, Amazon's UK business is called Amazon.co.uk Limited even though it does not own or operate the website of the same name. Instead the UK business operates Amazon's British warehouses, buying teams and other functions. It sells these services to sister Amazon companies overseas, mainly Amazon EU Sarl, the European headquarters company"

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Yeah but as long as Amazon sarl who own the UK website are within the EU you can get a European order against them as I'm sure they will not contest it. As you pointed out the UK branch don't actually own the site.

But that's irrelevant anway. OP would be wasting a lot of time and resources for this money which could be used in more productive ways.

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Barry, I am not going to argue with you, but you cannot litigate against one company, obtain a Judgement against that company, then use use that Judgement against a totally separate entity, wether they are related each other or not. Any action taken against amazon eu has to initiated in the Jurisdiction of Luxembourg. I know this scenario extremely well.

Regarding your sentence, you are 100% correct.

I will not post again on this thread as its wasting my time as well as others.

Alan advice, move on....

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You know it from normal courts which im sure you are right about. But I'm talking about small claims court.

As you say though. It's still Gets heard in Luxembourg. But you do not have to be present.

https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_...laims-42-en.do

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I am more interested in the sudden plethora of lawyers who joined here and know everything.

OP would appear to be an adult. If he consults and gets qualified legal advice under UK law, then it;s his choice.
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The small claims courts/process are specifically designed to be used without a solicitor and to keep costs down.

That's one of the founding reasons for setting them up. That and making the process quicker.

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Barry, the link you displayed has nothing to do with the UK small courts claims, its a completely different Euro Court system. Have you read the pdf within the link, max claim 2000 euro and YOU HAVE TO ATTEND a hearing if the Defendant files a Defence and amazon will surely do as its filed in Luxembourg.

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I can feel for the OP. It sucks to think you got ripped off by Amazon. But I agree with the others, it is going to cost you some bucks even if you do it yourself and there is NO guarantee that Amazon will end up paying you.

If this battle has been going on for 5 years, maybe it is not just about the money, but still.

If it were me, I would have just created a bunch of new accounts. Sales = Money. Court battles RARELY = money.

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Grrrrr what happened to not commenting. I may not be a lawyer but I almost became one and have studied UK/EU law.

The small claims process within the EU is the same as the small claims court in the UK, it's just for cases that cross borders. Maybe calling it a small claims court was not specific enough but it's still viewed as the same process for reclaiming damages. The small claims process.

THERE IS NO NEED TO TURN UP. I'm Not sure why you capitalised that but it's simply not true.

An oral hearing can be requested but This does not mean you have to turn up. Something like Skype would be perfectly acceptable.

But there is very little if any chance oral hearing would be requested in This situation anyway because

1- Amazon would never turn turn up as they would have to send a lawyer which would be charged at a days work or more with prep.
2- but hypothetically if they did and they for some reason requested An oral hearing it would not be granted. The facts would be black and white and the whole process is to reduce time and costs. Every decision the court makes hasty abide by that philosophy so a request for an oral,hearing would be turned down.

Anyway. If you want to argue that fair enough but I really am leaving it at that.

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Please read from page 41 on the pdf thats within your link.
Amazon have in house Lawyers so the cost is minimal (I know this from experience)
Barry, I hate to argue but why are the facts black and white, we don't the reason why his account was deleted, maybe ⊗⊗⊗⊗, fraud which are all covered in amazon terms.
So your reasoning we can all make a claim against amazon, make up evidence, amazon will not be able to contest it and we win.
Have you ever heard of the saying "setting Judgement aside" Skype is not permitted in any Court room. There is a facility for telephone conference but that has be agreed by all parties and has to used through the secure Court communication system. Please Google the answers are there.

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Not only can Skype 100% be used. It has been. It's also been used in high court cases in the UK and countries all over the world. so I'm not sure what you are googling but it's not right and a Simple 2 second search will show you that???

But that's not even relevant. The point was you don't have to be there as you said you do. I was trying to help OP not win another petty argument.

The factS are black and white because Amazon have to prove they had good reason to keep the money. Either they prove it or they don't. The judge wouldn't request a witness.

If you want me to clarify anything else or to continue this please send me PM and let's stop both of us derailing another thread.

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It has been a long standing instruction on this forum that advice not be given on legal nor tax issues.

Continuing to post in open as you are asserts knowledge that is one-sided.

It appears you have missed the potential of an account being stealth yet you go suggesting remedial action at law to obtain funds. There are repercussions of that.

Not what the forum is about.

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?? Yep this has been on the cards for years and is a virtual court. However Skype is already used to testify. You can google that in less than 2 seconds. Literally.

If you insist tho I can PM you a link to a document outlining the use of Skype and how it is allowed.

But why get caught up in that anyway, the point was you don't have to be there in person. That was an important point. The use of Skype is not.

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My only advice is you don't need legal advice to go to a small claims court and you don't need to be there in person if it is within the EU.

I'm not sure what the problem about 1 sided knowledge though? These are facts so the knowledge can only be one sided.

In the EU/ UK this is well known information about small claims courts. Not so much about the EU oral hearing but that hardly ever happens anway.

I do take your point however

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Barry you may be getting confused between the Magistrates Court and Crown Court where I believe SkyPe can be used, however in the County Courts across the UK,Skype cannot be used only telephone conferencing and limited use of Video conferencing, this also applies to the small claims in Europe.
PRACTICE DIRECTION 32 – EVIDENCE - Civil Procedure Rules

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Really? You are still googling things about the use of Skype?

How doesn't that link say Skype is not used

Becuase the actual body that oversees these cases says it can be.

You do realise limited use of video conferencing I means Skype don't you?

Just to once again put this ridiculous argument to bed

Bottom of page 6 from the European parliamentary research service

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/RegDat...9514109_EN.pdf

And I quote

"The IA does not discuss the reasons why Courts continue to Make limited use of Communication technologies (such as skype type facilities at oral hearings) even when these are available."


That's straight from the horses mouth and would suggest Skype is allowed.

I'm sure you are going to spend the next 6 hours googling why this is wrong. But for the love of God. Leave it alone.

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Who cares anyway? If the OP had listened he could have made his £1300 back already if he wanted.

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Exactly. Yet another Amazon thread turned into a pissing contest.

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I've tried every possible way to end this. Surely you can see that.

But I'm not going to have someone go after every post I write saying it's wrong.

Micky has been banned before for this and I know I'm an idiot for rising to it but it's bloody annoying.

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BANNED??? Confused now.

Barry I have finished with now, the way you spoke its everyday occurrence to use SkyPe, "limited" I understand is the wording.

Anyway celebrations tonight just gone over 1m feedback, amazon I guess will send me a bottle of Champagne....

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If you're making that much you can surely afford a better hobby than bating me. And your secret is safe with me MICKY :spy:

But a genuine congrats on hitting 1m.

Maybe you will get a skype call from Jeff!!

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