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AlanRickard 05-08-2015 05:23 AM

Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Hey Folks,

I used to be a seller on Amazon about 5 years ago. They banned me with over 1.3k in my account. They asked me to wait the 90 days and I would get my money. The days passed after the 90 and got the email saying it was on its way. Weeks passed and it still never showed up.

I was then told I will never get my money back via email.

It's now 5 years down the line. I'm looking to find a lawyer and who to contact at Amazon so I can take them to the cleaners.

Trading Standards reviewed my case and said they have broke several UK Laws.

Compensation should be nice for the 5 years of me calling and emailing them.

JamesNorth101 05-08-2015 12:29 PM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
You may be fighting a loosing battle with that one.

I hate to say it but the sheer amount of work you would need to go though to get your 1.3k back is just not going to be worth it. And chances are you still would not get your money back

barrycruan 05-08-2015 12:34 PM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Are you serious? Don't even think of doing this in a million years.
if they had taken 100k I'd still say leave it.

But for 1.3k you are going to lose a hell of a lot of money just getting this in front of a judge.

Gamefreak 05-08-2015 02:28 PM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
When you lose i hope you are aware of the consequences that comes with taking a company like amazon to court

Amazon will dig through its system and find everything you did wrong for them to withhold your money. If you are a lawyer go for it otherwise stay away.

AlanRickard 05-11-2015 05:05 AM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Already spoken to a few lawyers in my area and pointed me in the right direction.

They have already looked over my evidence and have a strong case.

I don't even need a lawyer they told me. Small claims court I can claim up to 5k within the UK.

Some of the UK papers are also willing to help cover a story so hopefully it ****s in Amazons faces.

Taking The Micky 05-11-2015 08:31 AM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Sorry Buddy, all I can say you have pretty crap lawyers, or in the Uk solicitors. You cannot take amazon to Court in the UK, it is not a UK company. The company is a SARL which is registered in Luxembourg. Your Lawyers sound like amazon, they will take your money and you give nothing. Forget your quest, all will do is lose more money.

Callidus 05-11-2015 08:33 AM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Just move on, the time you will spend on this, you could of made 10x the amount of money you lost previously by setting up new accounts.

AlanRickard 05-11-2015 09:01 AM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
I guess guys are right but surly someone needs to step up and stop this madness ?

eBay/PayPal/Amazon they are all the same.

Will see what the legal team think.

Productions 05-11-2015 09:11 AM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Has anyone tried calling Amazon corporate and talked directly with them regarding this kinda stuff? They are higher up in the chain.

TonyAlmeida 05-11-2015 09:26 AM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanRickard (Post 668243)

Will see what the legal team think.

:surrender::surrender::surrender:

What legal team?

AlanRickard 05-11-2015 09:40 AM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Productions (Post 668245)
Has anyone tried calling Amazon corporate and talked directly with them regarding this kinda stuff? They are higher up in the chain.

I have tried to call Amazon HQ. You don't get very far as the team you need "Account Specialists" are only contactable via email.

They must be like some kind of entity haha.

When I said "My Legal Team" I meant the lawyer I was speaking to. I still think I have a case if trading standards are willing to help.

Someone just needs to stand up to them and battle. A court can never go in Amazons favor if all the evidence is right in front of them ? Like i said in the UK we have small claims court. No lawyers and only a £50 fee to pay. :uk:

Productions 05-11-2015 09:41 AM

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Yeah why hasn't anyone taken these guys to small claims court yet?

Callidus 05-11-2015 09:57 AM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
They have deleted your account for a reason and you're not getting it back.

Get the Amazon Ghost guide and start fresh. Forget lawyers!

Bunneh 05-11-2015 11:34 AM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
I would love to hear about this 'evidence' that keeps getting mentioned :brushteeth:

barrycruan 05-11-2015 11:43 AM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AlanRickard (Post 668161)
Already spoken to a few lawyers in my area and pointed me in the right direction.

They have already looked over my evidence and have a strong case.

I don't even need a lawyer they told me. Small claims court I can claim up to 5k within the UK.

Some of the UK papers are also willing to help cover a story so hopefully it ****s in Amazons faces.

You might actually have a chance in the small claims court as Luxembourg is in the EU and I doubt Amazon would bother to send any representation.

But is it really worth it. Amazon are not going to "learn a lesson" from this even if you do win. Stories of them keeping £1200 is not going to bring down one of the biggest companies in the world.

I would seriously try outlining your story and sending it to the managingdirector email. After this much time I doubt you will get it back but it's worth a 5 minute email.

More than that and you are going to be getting minimum wage or less with the amount of time and stress this will take you.

Gamefreak 05-11-2015 12:19 PM

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your best bet here is public shame.... get this on a front page of popular site and you will get results. But for that kind of money i don't see that happening. Now if you are talking 100k then yes but for this no.

Taking The Micky 05-11-2015 05:21 PM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by barrycruan (Post 668306)
You might actually have a chance in the small claims court as Luxembourg is in the EU and I doubt Amazon would bother to send any representation.

But is it really worth it. Amazon are not going to "learn a lesson" from this even if you do win. Stories of them keeping £1200 is not going to bring down one of the biggest companies in the world.

I would seriously try outlining your story and sending it to the managingdirector email. After this much time I doubt you will get it back but it's worth a 5 minute email.

More than that and you are going to be getting minimum wage or less with the amount of time and stress this will take you.

Barry, yes you may get a judgment in small claims, but it worthless as amazon.co.uk ltd is not the Company you are doing business with, a quote from the Guardian

"Confusingly, Amazon's UK business is called Amazon.co.uk Limited even though it does not own or operate the website of the same name. Instead the UK business operates Amazon's British warehouses, buying teams and other functions. It sells these services to sister Amazon companies overseas, mainly Amazon EU Sarl, the European headquarters company"

barrycruan 05-11-2015 06:23 PM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taking The Micky (Post 668418)
Barry, yes you may get a judgment in small claims, but it worthless as amazon.co.uk ltd is not the Company you are doing business with, a quote from the Guardian

"Confusingly, Amazon's UK business is called Amazon.co.uk Limited even though it does not own or operate the website of the same name. Instead the UK business operates Amazon's British warehouses, buying teams and other functions. It sells these services to sister Amazon companies overseas, mainly Amazon EU Sarl, the European headquarters company"

Yeah but as long as Amazon sarl who own the UK website are within the EU you can get a European order against them as I'm sure they will not contest it. As you pointed out the UK branch don't actually own the site.

But that's irrelevant anway. OP would be wasting a lot of time and resources for this money which could be used in more productive ways.

Taking The Micky 05-11-2015 06:34 PM

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Barry, I am not going to argue with you, but you cannot litigate against one company, obtain a Judgement against that company, then use use that Judgement against a totally separate entity, wether they are related each other or not. Any action taken against amazon eu has to initiated in the Jurisdiction of Luxembourg. I know this scenario extremely well.

Regarding your sentence, you are 100% correct.

I will not post again on this thread as its wasting my time as well as others.

Alan advice, move on....

barrycruan 05-11-2015 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Taking The Micky (Post 668433)
Barry, I am not going to argue with you, but you cannot litigate against one company, obtain a Judgement against that company, then use use that Judgement against a totally separate entity, wether they are related each other or not. Any action taken against amazon eu has to initiated in the Jurisdiction of Luxembourg. I know this scenario extremely well.

Regarding your sentence, you are 100% correct.

I will not post again on this thread as its wasting my time as well as others.

Alan advice, move on....

You know it from normal courts which im sure you are right about. But I'm talking about small claims court.

As you say though. It's still Gets heard in Luxembourg. But you do not have to be present.

https://e-justice.europa.eu/content_...laims-42-en.do

GreenBean 05-11-2015 07:03 PM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bunneh (Post 668301)
I would love to hear about this 'evidence' that keeps getting mentioned :brushteeth:

I am more interested in the sudden plethora of lawyers who joined here and know everything.

OP would appear to be an adult. If he consults and gets qualified legal advice under UK law, then it;s his choice.
:juggle:

barrycruan 05-11-2015 08:12 PM

Re: Amazon Suspended 5 Years Ago
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 668439)
I am more interested in the sudden plethora of lawyers who joined here and know everything.

OP would appear to be an adult. If he consults and gets qualified legal advice under UK law, then it;s his choice.
:juggle:

The small claims courts/process are specifically designed to be used without a solicitor and to keep costs down.

That's one of the founding reasons for setting them up. That and making the process quicker.


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