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no EIN?
 

So what's the trick on not having EIN?

Is it as simple as saying New Ein opened within 60 days and AZ does not check till 1 month later and you keep doing it, ........?

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Amazon asks for a TAX ID when you reach 50 sales. If you come close to going over the 200 items and $20,000 threshold or you ignore them long enough, they will suspend the account until you provide the information.

As far as I know, there is no "secret" way of avoiding giving them a tax-id. One person DID ask me once if they could use someone else's SSN and I said, sure, if you want to go to jail!
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Here's the Secret:

Let me know how it worked out for you!

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I was under the impression you had to enter something in the tax form just to get into the main seller central. I haven't really tried without doing that. Is there a way around it?

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you have to enter something.
My understanding is that if you tell AZ that the number was created before 6 month AZ does not check it right away and you can get away by a couple months that way

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When an EIN is issued, it takes about 2 weeks to propagate throughout the IRS' systems. Amazon knows this. So, you CAN check that box for some leeway, but not months and months worth.

I wouldn't try to do anything fancy when using SSN's or EIN's or you MIGHT end up in a world of trouble. EIN's are easy enough to get, so I don't see what the issue is anyways.

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I agree.

But Some here mention never using an EIN so I am wondering what they mean

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Some people might wait until Amazon asks them for the tax-id and then stall, while continuing to sell, until Amazon suspends the account.

Some people might use SSN's belonging to their wife or kids.

There is no magic way around it. Whether you give them an SSN or an EIN, the IRS will verify that the names match. In the case of an SSN, the name you supply must match EXACTLY what is on your social security card. In the case of an EIN, the business name must match EXACTLY what is on file with the IRS. The IRS only returns a response of MATCH or NO MATCH. They do not correct information or supply any other information.

Also, you should be aware that when you apply for an EIN, you will receive the number immediately, but it takes about 2 weeks to propagate though all of the IRS' systems.

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After $250 in sales in an Amazon Canada acct I was asked for tax I'd. I ignored it and the acct was suspended until I give it. 3 sales. And $250 wtf

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That happen to me too

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so how do peoples that do not need EIN do it ?

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They dont.... Only short term option. That is what everyone keep telling you in this thread.

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Maybe they make a lot of Accounts, and than just sell until asked and move to the next

But with Amazon it's different than eBay and it makes sense to get an EIN , u really don't need a lot of accounts so just get an EIN, there's no way around it if you make 50 sales, it's an IRS law for all PAYMENT PROCESSORS

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:lol: too funny

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Ok but then again. The ones that keep bragging of not required ein. What are they talking about?

Re: no EIN?
 

There's no one using an Amazon account without adding a tax ID, you are required to provide it at a certain point

The only way around it is to make a ton of accounts , sell 50 items, than toss the account till next year and move to a new account

Not sure where u are getting the idea that this your able to avoid this IRS REQUIREMENT

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again, THEY DONT!

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they don't what? they don't use EIN or they don't brag?

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They don't get around it. It is the IRS. no getting around adding tax info on Amazon.

You are thick headed.

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http://www.aspkin.com/forums/amazon/...ular-cc-2.html


I quote:

YOU DON'T NEED EIN'S OR LLCS!

GIVE AMAZON CAKE!

THEY JUST REQUIRE RESUBMISSION OF THE INFO EVERY 30 DAYS!

The 1099-K policy is in its infacy...it was started in 2011. Believe me, the IRS will take your money with or without a 1099-K. Self-report your income, or don't....that's not the subject of this forum.

You can pay your taxes without ever getting a business license, LLC, or EIN. You simply report your Gross income, your expenses, etc and pay the amount you owe. If this is to confusing for you to understand, consult a tax professional.

But please, don't come here whining about LLCs and EINs. They are NOT necessary to sell stuff on eBay/Amazon, not even for multiple accounts. This "you need an EIN to be legitimate" rumor needs to STOP!

The IRS couldn't care less if you classify yourself as an LLC or Sole Proprietor, so long as you pay your taxes!

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I quote 2 more post down same thread:

"Yes there is a trick none of my 30 accounts has ein number or ssn but I still have to pay taxes because they go to a real bank account that's under my name"

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I'm assuming the quote is from the thread u just posted, in the top right corner of each post there is a date, and that was from 2007

2007 and 2015 is a huge difference, the IRS implemented the tax ID requirement within the last 2 years maybe 3

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on the top left:
05-31-2015, 11:56 PM

what are you talking about 2007?
This is someone replying to the link I posted 6 days ago

Where do you see 2007 ?

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The link u posted at the top of your post , click that and look at each post on the top right corner, did u post the wrong thread link?

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I say do whatever you want and test everything.
If you find a way of a long term solution for not supplying tax info to amazon let us all know.
Wish you luck!

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Well I did not find anything that is why I am asking. Or aspkin :)

Sorry I do not see 2007 anywhere

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Your not listening to anyone, but this is my last post on this, the above link above this sentence that u posted a couple posts ago, u started out with this link above and than started writing quotes, and I'm assuming they were from that link, if not than not sure why u would just put a random link to a thread and just start making quotes from another thread

So just click on the link that u posted and that I have in this post once u click on the blue link in this post at the top which is what u posted , look at the dates on the right corner

If u still can't see it your playing games here I guess

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https://photos-1.dropbox.com/t/2/AAB...68&size_mode=2

I started that thread with the link above 6 days myself.
So I am not sure what you are saying Dmshark25. Maybe the date on your PC is wrong but I can tell you that I started myself that thread I referenced 6 days ago so there is no way that any of the posts are from 2007.

I don't know what else to tell you

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and we have answered you multiple times :)

If you dont like the answer then maybe ask a better question or a new question.
Quite simply, there is no way of getting around the IRS law long term.

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Yup as of 2010 it is effect. We all have to deal with it both on ebay/pp and amazon.

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There is trick to pass IRS for united states but im not going to out right give it out so it can be abused. This something you guys have to figure out on yourself .

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Paul pm so we get this straight if I give you the info on how to do this . You must not exploit this to everyone in this forum . When the time you need it again it wont be available to you because you went and exploit the information to everyone and then amazon catches on then makes it harder to pass the IRS without EIN or SSN . This is not temporary this is permament fix you will never be asked to enter the TAX ID ever again

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I responded his thread and yes it is true all of my accounts don't have ein or ssn

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your wrong there is

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Here is the deal you give me something I give you something . I need receipts to pass beauty section gated category or any receipts you have used to pass the any gated categories. if we trade information ill give you my secret in PM how to do it ... you need to give me receipts first before I give you this info . My word is born You help me I help you. you want 20 feedbacks added to your account trick .. you help me I help you

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If once another person know it, it will be exposed to everyone sooner or later.

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It will be exposed sooner or later so be prepared to get as many in as possible.
There's always that turd out there who want's everyone to think he's/she's
important to everyone else....a nobody whom want's to be a somebody...pathetic!

Re: no EIN?
 

Sure there is.
You have stated before using FOREIGN details and foreign international bank cards etc..

For most of us this is a HUGE risk as far as IRS goes and identity theft, I understand your situation is different and also at least as costly in exchange that what most people pay in minimal taxes.

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[QUOTE=yankee;676298]Sure there is.
You have stated before using FOREIGN details and foreign international bank cards etc..

For most of us this is a HUGE risk as far as IRS goes and identity theft, I understand your situation is different and also at least as costly in exchange that what most people pay in minimal taxes.[/QUOT

few people I help in this forum know what im talking about and they can surely tell you that has nothing to do with identity theft

Big Sky bank in Montana
 

Easy bank account to get online. If you open a savings account you also get a second debit card for the savings account.