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Default Added new bank account > Linked & Closed

Created a new stealth account and filled in cake for everything that I could, and operated via a user account running a VPN.

Been running for 50 days and all going fine, until today, when I added a new bank account, with a bank that I never ever used before for any previous accounts, using first name initial and last name. After 2.5 hours of adding my bank info, bam, got the email to say my seller account has been linked to previously closed account blah blah.

What gives?! I had this happen before (3-4 hours after adding new bank account, - which was also a different bank, and account gets linked) and I thought it was just bad luck last time due to my VPN (which I switched this time already)!

US marketplace. TD USA bank - chequing account. Credit card is a totally legit card of a relative living half the country away. Help?!
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Default Re: Added new bank account > Linked & Closed

With a VPN (which VPN service provider?) <-- that could be a red flag

TD traditionally does not like mismatch names but that should't get you linked.

Similar items? Maybe account creation was flawed?

It could be a number of factors.
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Default Re: Added new bank account > Linked & Closed

I had some weird stuff this past week also but only on the ebay side of things. Lost a whole group of accounts all created the same way about the same time last fall. All my other accounts are fine.

It seems that there may be linking by how accounts are created and possibly ship from zip code when printing off ebay.

It is to early for me to tell exactly what happened.
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Strange situation.
Youre obviously getting linked in some way.
Id say the VPN is a possible factor since VPNs can leak your real IP address via WebRTC - depending on the browser youre using.
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Strange situation.
Youre obviously getting linked in some way.
Id say the VPN is a possible factor since VPNs can leak your real IP address via WebRTC - depending on the browser youre using.
Certain browsers leak more than others?

Not all of my accounts were on a VPN. Some of them I have never even used but were created at the same general time in the same way.
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Yes - some browsers are worse than others. Firefox tends to leak that info whereas Explorer does not. Strange but true.
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Default Re: Added new bank account > Linked & Closed

The bank account linking has happened to me. Added a bank and within 2 hours account suspended. This was a brand new BOA saving's account. The reason still is a mystery to me as I never had an account closed for linking. Browser was Safari.
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With a VPN (which VPN service provider?) <-- that could be a red flag

TD traditionally does not like mismatch names but that should't get you linked.

Similar items? Maybe account creation was flawed?

It could be a number of factors.
Used Vyper, as well as private internet acc.

Had 1 to 2 ratio of old/new items. Though from what i read on here, some experienced stealth users seem to go fine without padding in new items, at least according to their posts.

Account was using new corp names, cell numbers, cc's, addresses, passwords were diff etc. But again, been running close to 2 month all safe, until the bank addition.

If it really is a VPN thing, then hypothetically, no one is safe to run a VPN as you're bound to get a recycled/blacklisted IP, eventually. But its too much of a coincidence that this has happened right after adding bank info. About to go crazy...

Browser was a mix ofr opera, firefox and IE btw.
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Default Re: Added new bank account > Linked & Closed

Then that Firefox might have been leaking your info.
You can test your connection here: whoer.net/extended
Thatll show you if your true IP address is showing via WebRTC.
Question - what bank were you using? cause some banks are more problematic than others.
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Never mind - Just noticed you added that info in your original post.
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The bank account linking has happened to me. Added a bank and within 2 hours account suspended. This was a brand new BOA saving's account. The reason still is a mystery to me as I never had an account closed for linking. Browser was Safari.
Were you using a VPN via user accounts setup?

I added a bank account to one of my other stealths 3 weeks ago, with pretty much the same setup, as the account that got closed today, and that one has been fine (despite for the fact that the bank closed the personal account because they "found out" that I was using it for "business" purposes, and not personal - which is against their policy...anyone have any experiences with that by the way (this was for RBC US Bank)? Amz still made the deposit 3 days after the date of the bank notice though. Amz account is not impacted at all, other than needing to add another new bank account...)

I have yet to try to add a bank account to any of my accounts created via VPS.

Perhaps VPS is the only secure answer, at least from a IP side of things?

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Is Vyper a free service which potentially would be used by many?
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Is Vyper a free service which potentially would be used by many?
It's not free. It's paid.
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It's not free. It's paid.
Doesn't really matter whether it is paid for or not. If you are using a shared VPN instead of a dedicated, fresh VPN there is always a chance that an IP you are allocated has recently been used by someone else accessing Amazon.
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Use VPS, don't get linked. All these VPN cause links sometimes.
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Oh ok - might be worth doing VPS or dongle or cellphone tethering rather
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Oh ok - might be worth doing VPS or dongle or cellphone tethering rather
If it is a huge network with 10s of thousands of users - it may happen in a way, that you'll get an IP that someone else used for HIS suspended EB. So technically dongles are risky as well. Anything with a dynamic IP is actually dangerous.
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If it is a huge network with 10s of thousands of users - it may happen in a way, that you'll get an IP that someone else used for HIS suspended EB. So technically dongles are risky as well. Anything with a dynamic IP is actually dangerous.
Dongles are not dangerous, amazon know the IP ranges of the providers and will not suspend you on one bad connection. Dynamic can be dangerous. Static IP is obviously the safest.
But amazon will not suspend you on IP alone. Other factors come into it.
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Default Re: Added new bank account > Linked & Closed

Do you guys mostly use personal bank accounts, and not business - asking for those with 20k+ sales monthly being transferred in. Do banks never hassle you for flag your account for needing to switch to a Business account given such constantly large deposits?
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Business accounts are always better. TD personal accounts suck and don't like mismatched names oftentimes. TD business will allow all sorts of things not capable on personal.
Im speaking for USA and unsure of Canada.
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Could it be the stealth addresses you guys are using are blocked? I always thought if I pick some random address I take the risk that someone else may have used it as well and had a previously suspended account. It could be you used the suspended stealth address, amazon already flagged it for review, and then they wait for you to add the account and then close it so they have more information on you to keep you out. Not sure if this is true, but just a thought.
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Business accounts are always better. TD personal accounts suck and don't like mismatched names oftentimes.
What about getting a DBA (Doing business as) form and giving that to the bank? I think it's something like $25-50 for a DBA, and that should be a work around - just match your DBA as your fictitious account name that you want to deposit to and since the bank has your DBA on file then the bank should accept it without issue right?

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TD business will allow all sorts of things not capable on personal.
What does a business account do that a personal account doesn't?

I've read online and some also recommend that businesses use personal credit cards (not mixing their personal purchases and keeping it all strictly business purchases). But... businesses should stay away from personal checking accounts? Is that the case,, or is it just for this particular bank. I mean can't you have a personal checking account with a "Doing Business As (fictitioaus name)" that is filed with your personal account? Or can you not have DBAs with personal accounts,, does anyone know?
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