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Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years AMAZON WANTS TO ONE DAY BE THE SOLE SELLER OF EVERY ITEM ON ITS SITE IN 5 YEARS.
That is its goal. One problem: It cant possibly house every item in all of its warehouses without becoming over stocked. How does amazon create a data base knowing how many items to keep in stock at any time and also during seasonal months? It has amazon 3rd party sellers fill in the voids while AMAZON CREATES ITS SELLER DATA BASE.
Amazon has created an program/ algarythem that analyzes all of its orders and sales from 3rd party sellers and itself. It is figuring out how much of what of EVERYTHING to keep in stock at any given time.
Amazon is collecting EXO BYTES of info of all the items ALL of its customers want, when and what locations. Heaters for the east coast during January, pools for the west coast during Aug. Pants during September.
Once Amazon has a grasp of all this info, it will slowly phase out the 3rd party sellers who have listings. Amazon will have all these items on hand at vairous locations without overwhelming itself with warehouse space because it knows how much of each product will sell and when. Buyer habbits based on price etc. MASSIVE MASSIVE PROJECT which in 5 years will be complete enough for Amazon to have no need for 3rd party sellers in the NEW listings
Amazon is using us to create its data base. It is already phasing out multiple categories because it has all the data it needs and is now the only seller. SHOES and clothing is one example. ONLY AMAZON SELLS IN THESE DEPARTMENTS. |
| jakobrockz | 09-01-2015 05:31 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Interesting theory.. |
| glacier922 | 09-01-2015 05:37 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Sources? Where are you getting this or are you just speculating? |
| Klemantina | 09-01-2015 05:38 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years It's going to kill many small businesses but on the other hand I guess it will lower the prices for everyone so overall it's a good thing right? |
| unkown5454 | 09-01-2015 05:39 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years |
| SM2015 | 09-01-2015 05:43 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years I am already noticing them taking over many many listings and selling it lowest, even products they did not have a couple of months ago.
Mabye that is why every few months they do these mass suspensions.
Maybe this is why they tell sellers a customer complained about a product not being legit,
when I only sold this particular item they mentioned to one person, who did return it still unopened and unused with a email saying the no longer have that product so simply don't need the refills they purchased from me. They were happy, left good feedback and never compalined, yet AM counts that against me.
Sounds interesting and It does seem some of it is already heading that direction.
Someone needs to create another selling platform like AZ that is not so greedy! |
| jakobrockz | 09-01-2015 05:49 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Or its a company that wants to make as much money as they can |
| TonyAlmeida | 09-01-2015 06:20 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Suck it hard while you still can :) |
| barrycruan | 09-01-2015 11:50 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years 3rd party sellers are making up more and more of amazons sales each year. Only a few years ago Amazon had 70% of sales. Their cut is decreasing each year.
They will always look to sell,popular products from major brands but they have no way of selling everything and if anything in 5 years Amazon will be all 3rd party sellers rather than the other way around. |
| jeffweico | 09-02-2015 12:13 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years This is not going to happen. They earn a very nice commission on every 3rd party sale, in many cases more than they could by selling the item themselves. YES, they CAN get anything cheaper than you can. BUT they have other costs for warehousing and operations to consider. Small 3rd party sellers do not have that issue since we are our own labor.
Amazon can obviously decide to do whatever they want with their website. But I don't see them getting rid of third party sellers. As far as I know, while some categories ARE blocked, you CAN usually be approved to sell in them. Apparel, Jewelry and DVD's are blocked because of all the people trying to sell counterfeits. But if you have legitimate sources for these items, you can certainly apply to sell in those categories. When they blocked DVD's, two of my accounts were approved to sell them.
I just don't see this happening. |
Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Great song unkown5454 |
| Taking The Micky | 09-02-2015 02:24 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years I have the same view as Barry. In 5 years amazon will just become a massive selling portal selling virtually nothing other than digital product. Manufactures will hold stocks and orders will go direct to them rather than amazon holding the stocks. FBA product will fill there warehouses and amazon will collect 15% or more on all sales for hosting a website. In the UK play.com has gone this way. Amazon does not manufacture anything (apart from Kindle) so if companies like Samsung/Apple want to sell there goods through amazon they will need there own stores with amazon or 3rd sellers. |
| SM2015 | 09-02-2015 03:00 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years It does make sense and of course they want to make more money,
I have gotten some emails lately from them asking for my suppliers for a cut and things
like that, so it does kind of make sense for part of it anyways.
Hopefully they won't totally cut us out, that would be hurting a lot of peoples income just as it does when they have these mass suspensions.
But I do see parts of that, that seem like it is partially coming to that.
What can we call the new selling platform! The amazon competition, I am in! |
Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years this is worrying, with al of us making a living online, eBay is slowly dieing, and amazon apprently will not have 3rd party sellers, no one will buy form our webstores either because amazon will sell it cheaper...
Whats the solution? |
| jakobrockz | 09-02-2015 08:46 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by josh
(Post 700896)
this is worrying, with al of us making a living online, eBay is slowly dieing, and amazon apprently will not have 3rd party sellers, no one will buy form our webstores either because amazon will sell it cheaper...
Whats the solution? | You shouldn't be worrying about either eBay or Amazon dying lol |
| eBay King | 09-02-2015 11:01 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by NXLM
(Post 700675)
AMAZON WANTS TO ONE DAY BE THE SOLE SELLER OF EVERY ITEM ON ITS SITE IN 5 YEARS.
That is its goal. One problem: It cant possibly house every item in all of its warehouses without becoming over stocked. How does amazon create a data base knowing how many items to keep in stock at any time and also during seasonal months? It has amazon 3rd party sellers fill in the voids while AMAZON CREATES ITS SELLER DATA BASE.
Amazon has created an program/ algarythem that analyzes all of its orders and sales from 3rd party sellers and itself. It is figuring out how much of what of EVERYTHING to keep in stock at any given time.
Amazon is collecting EXO BYTES of info of all the items ALL of its customers want, when and what locations. Heaters for the east coast during January, pools for the west coast during Aug. Pants during September.
Once Amazon has a grasp of all this info, it will slowly phase out the 3rd party sellers who have listings. Amazon will have all these items on hand at vairous locations without overwhelming itself with warehouse space because it knows how much of each product will sell and when. Buyer habbits based on price etc. MASSIVE MASSIVE PROJECT which in 5 years will be complete enough for Amazon to have no need for 3rd party sellers in the NEW listings
Amazon is using us to create its data base. It is already phasing out multiple categories because it has all the data it needs and is now the only seller. SHOES and clothing is one example. ONLY AMAZON SELLS IN THESE DEPARTMENTS. |
What is this crap?
Announcing this statement without any proof...
As others have said, WE are the backbone of Amz. We make up 40%+ of their unit sales. Why Amazon benefits from more third-party sellers - Market Realist |
Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by eBay King
(Post 701001)
| Agreed its very unlikely amazon ever does this, amazon costs are huge and they take a loss on a lot of their sales in order to provide the best customer service they can and to win over customers so that amazon gets their full loyalty.
The commission they get from 3rd party sales is some of the best pure profit they can make. |
| Alcap1 | 09-02-2015 12:45 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by josh
(Post 700896)
this is worrying, with al of us making a living online, eBay is slowly dieing, and amazon apprently will not have 3rd party sellers, no one will buy form our webstores either because amazon will sell it cheaper...
Whats the solution? | sites like amazon/ebay will always exist, even if what OP is saying is true, there will always be someone to take their place because there is such a huge demand for it. |
| dan_ebay | 09-02-2015 01:20 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years I don't think so, they make more taking their 15% cut than they would selling it themselves on a lot of things. Prices for the stuff I sell on there are terrible, majority I'd be selling for £25 and making £2-3 profit (amazon would make more than me) |
| unkown5454 | 09-02-2015 02:29 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by rsot
(Post 700840)
Great song unkown5454 | i'm going to gather all the bogus posts on this forum and build one massive hype train. don't get left out! |
| machine1 | 09-02-2015 05:20 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years It will never happen gives other sites momentum to to get 3rd party sellers which in then increases then revenue and eventually compete with amazon. |
| glacier922 | 09-02-2015 05:21 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Also, amazon would have to invest too much on market analysis and takes risk with their own investment capital, that's why they would shift the cost and work to us, makes it easier for them. |
| dealagreeproceed | 09-02-2015 05:27 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by Klemantina
(Post 700678)
It's going to kill many small businesses but on the other hand I guess it will lower the prices for everyone so overall it's a good thing right? | :confused::nono::faint: |
| GhostOfAmazon | 09-03-2015 12:38 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Stop copy/pasting your bullsh!t fantasy all over the forum. You've already posted this in another thread and several members let you know why it's not going to happen.
But if you want to continue to believe Amazon is out to get you, by all means, stop selling there. The less competition, the higher my prices. http://www.aspkin.com/forums/amazon/...ignatures.html |
Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Meh - sales will go on |
| jeffweico | 09-03-2015 02:01 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by josh
(Post 700896)
this is worrying, with al of us making a living online, eBay is slowly dieing, and amazon apprently will not have 3rd party sellers, no one will buy form our webstores either because amazon will sell it cheaper...
Whats the solution? | The world always changes. We just have to adapt. Blacksmiths are gone. Shoe Repairmen are gone. Newspapers are dying. Arcades are gone. Video stores are mostly gone. DVD's are on their way out and Blu Rays too. Travel agencies are mostly gone. Ten years ago, mortgage brokers were fat and happy and now they are starving. Realtors are nervous - with the realty sites showing pictures and video tours of houses, it is harder and harder for them to justify a 6% commission. The internet has changed the world and put a lot of older industries out of business.
I was able to make money before the internet came about. If eBay and Amazon close to third party sellers, I will find another way to make money. And my website is doing fairly well. Not well enough for me to give up on eBay and Amazon, but it is profitable. It took me 5 years to get it there, but you can still make money with websites.
The world is full of opportunity. You just have to find it. And when you do, take advantage of it as much as possible. Because what makes money today is NOT guaranteed to make money tomorrow. ALWAYS be looking for the next opportunity. |
| GhostOfAmazon | 09-03-2015 02:13 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 701216)
The world always changes. We just have to adapt. Blacksmiths are gone. Shoe Repairmen are gone. Newspapers are dying. Arcades are gone. Video stores are mostly gone. DVD's are on their way out and Blu Rays too. Travel agencies are mostly gone. Ten years ago, mortgage brokers were fat and happy and now they are starving. Realtors are nervous - with the realty sites showing pictures and video tours of houses, it is harder and harder for them to justify a 6% commission. The internet has changed the world and put a lot of older industries out of business.
I was able to make money before the internet came about. If eBay and Amazon close to third party sellers, I will find another way to make money. And my website is doing fairly well. Not well enough for me to give up on eBay and Amazon, but it is profitable. It took me 5 years to get it there, but you can still make money with websites.
The world is full of opportunity. You just have to find it. And when you do, take advantage of it as much as possible. Because what makes money today is NOT guaranteed to make money tomorrow. ALWAYS be looking for the next opportunity. | Great advice as always Jeff.
Just wanted to point out to those who are gullible: The sky is NOT falling!
eBay and Amazon aren't going anywhere, and neither is our ability to sell on either platform.
There's far too much money and so little management that we provide these two companies. They love us, working so hard so they can take a big healthy bite of our income.
Unless you sell phakes, then they hate you. But you already knew that. :thumb: |
| Taking The Micky | 09-03-2015 03:48 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Yes things change, but at the end of the day people want goods and services, its just how they buy them, and amazon will be at the forefront of this.
The malls and the high street will slowly die, people will get lazier and just sit at home with a smart phone and everything will be delivered to door. Maybe slimming products will be massive in the future/
If we as marketplace sellers can have the right prices and can supply the service we will be around for a long time. |
| ifox007 | 09-03-2015 05:31 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years so do you have any plan after the 5-yr Mr. Saint? I'd like to hear now because this 4rum will not exist if your prediction comes true. lol Quote:
Originally Posted by NXLM
(Post 700675)
AMAZON WANTS TO ONE DAY BE THE SOLE SELLER OF EVERY ITEM ON ITS SITE IN 5 YEARS.
That is its goal. One problem: It cant possibly house every item in all of its warehouses without becoming over stocked. How does amazon create a data base knowing how many items to keep in stock at any time and also during seasonal months? It has amazon 3rd party sellers fill in the voids while AMAZON CREATES ITS SELLER DATA BASE.
Amazon has created an program/ algarythem that analyzes all of its orders and sales from 3rd party sellers and itself. It is figuring out how much of what of EVERYTHING to keep in stock at any given time.
Amazon is collecting EXO BYTES of info of all the items ALL of its customers want, when and what locations. Heaters for the east coast during January, pools for the west coast during Aug. Pants during September.
Once Amazon has a grasp of all this info, it will slowly phase out the 3rd party sellers who have listings. Amazon will have all these items on hand at vairous locations without overwhelming itself with warehouse space because it knows how much of each product will sell and when. Buyer habbits based on price etc. MASSIVE MASSIVE PROJECT which in 5 years will be complete enough for Amazon to have no need for 3rd party sellers in the NEW listings
Amazon is using us to create its data base. It is already phasing out multiple categories because it has all the data it needs and is now the only seller. SHOES and clothing is one example. ONLY AMAZON SELLS IN THESE DEPARTMENTS. | |
| vogeltron | 09-05-2015 03:43 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years This is nonsense. Maybe Amazon does choose to phase out certain products that they only sell themselves. I have a hard time seeing there be a complete wipe out of third party sellers.
There are too many products on Amazon that aren't sold by them only by third party sellers, some of them more custom branded items. If you list items with lots sellers for a particular item from what i hear I can understand how you feel this way.
Personally, all my products I have to buy the ISN/UPC codes and create all the listings myself. I am an asset to Amazon because I sell things on their site that would not otherwise be offered. |
| GhostOfAmazon | 09-05-2015 04:39 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by vogeltron
(Post 701971)
Personally, all my products I have to buy the ISN/UPC codes and create all the listings myself. I am an asset to Amazon because I sell things on their site that would not otherwise be offered. | Hold on, paging the "What products do you offer and who are your suppliers?" Idiots.
Response from the entire forum: We aren't giving away our income. Stop asking.
That will be all. :FF: |
| itemauctions | 09-07-2015 02:39 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years I agree with jeffweico, if any of you guys do plan on diversifying your earnings please use my web hosting just msg me for only $1 a month and $12/yr. :mod: |
| mrking401 | 09-10-2015 02:24 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years NO amazon likes the fact that people rely on them to sell online now.Amazon stopped a good percent of small businesses from focusing on a site that could one day rival them.AMazon in my head works as a crowd control for online sellers.The day they just dump everyone is the day youll see the internet flooded with new sites. |
| GhostOfAmazon | 09-10-2015 07:01 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years |
| vogeltron | 09-11-2015 03:26 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Amazon is really simple. If you want to sell something that is simple and they can do themselves then you are probably in the wrong category or wrong items. Amazon, as I have learned being a seller for just over a year is much more than just books, music and electronics. People buy clothing to my surprise, auto parts, and all kinds of things.
For those items you are competing directly with Amazon with it can still be lucrative. I will say the fees are higher and you must ship items out extremely quickly. If you think Baseball has a stat for everything Amazon has a metric for everything. You gotta go were the sales were, eBay for me is still my bread and butter but getting like a 10% boost from Amazon is nice. Its an interesting dynamic because I have products that are exactly the same that sell better on each site and for a higher price.
If you can go FBA from what I understand it can be an even larger boost because you have lots of people who pay for Amazon prime and only look for that logo when they shop. |
| beatingebay | 09-11-2015 02:29 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Sounds like WAR of the Worlds, radio show. People lost their minds and it was all ⊗⊗⊗⊗. This causes mass frenzy for no reason. Really???? Is this Kim Davis posting the end is coming??
Really, ebay and amazon make money from us selling. They keep going! |
| gonzoman | 09-11-2015 10:15 PM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by beatingebay
(Post 704000)
Sounds like WAR of the Worlds, radio show. People lost their minds and it was all ⊗⊗⊗⊗. This causes mass frenzy for no reason. Really???? Is this Kim Davis posting the end is coming??
Really, ebay and amazon make money from us selling. They keep going! | It is the Sep 23rd mania!!!
Oh yeah, and I want to see amazon selling our handmade craft items. |
| user3657 | 09-15-2015 09:58 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffweico
(Post 700823)
This is not going to happen. They earn a very nice commission on every 3rd party sale, in many cases more than they could by selling the item themselves. YES, they CAN get anything cheaper than you can. BUT they have other costs for warehousing and operations to consider. Small 3rd party sellers do not have that issue since we are our own labor.
Amazon can obviously decide to do whatever they want with their website. But I don't see them getting rid of third party sellers. As far as I know, while some categories ARE blocked, you CAN usually be approved to sell in them. Apparel, Jewelry and DVD's are blocked because of all the people trying to sell counterfeits. But if you have legitimate sources for these items, you can certainly apply to sell in those categories. When they blocked DVD's, two of my accounts were approved to sell them.
I just don't see this happening. | Agreed. 3rd parties are going no where.
Find Amazon's earnings for last year, and 3rd party sales were like high 30% of their earnings. Amazon stated in many press releases lately that 3rd party sales are a big part of them and they plan on growing that area. |
| swbluto | 09-15-2015 11:24 AM | Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzoman
(Post 704102)
It is the Sep 23rd mania!!!
Oh yeah, and I want to see amazon selling our handmade craft items. | Exactly. I want to know how amazon plans on replacing the independent manufacturers. |
Re: Amazon will phase out 3rd party sellers over the next 5 years anything is possible.....I know one thing for certain, Amazon is already screwing a lot of third party sellers since they lowball on just about every item in pretty much every category on their website already.
i would say this argument is somewhat invalid that amazon will phase out third party sellers.
because many of the sellers have their own brand name products on amazon. The only thing i can think of is that Amazon will attempt to replicate the products and put their own brand on them and sell. At the end though people are brand loyal. So amazon will lose commission if they decide to throw people under the bus because people might be 100% loyal to a amazon product as they would to a bose product of headphones. | | All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:41 AM. | |
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