Relisting old stock

sabbiman · #1 09-30-2015

Hello...

Have a question about relisting old stock.

I have spreadsheets from previous accounts that I had shut down from Amazon.com (the US site), and have taken note that most members say that you can relist cautiously using a 5 to 1 ratio ... and then pretty much after your account is in good standing after 90 days, not worry too much about it.

But here is my question...Amazon has in the last few years started to change ASIN numbers for some reason, as we routinely get those "ASIN Change Notification" emails.

I am wondering if any of my old spreadsheets have old ASINs that have been retired, is that a trigger for Amazon's system that I am using old spreadsheets?

Do I need to re-do all of that inventory that I have, or check each and every ASIN entry individually to make sure it is still valid? This is a lot of work...wondering if it is necessary...or I am being overly cautious here?

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

GhostOfAmazon · #2 09-30-2015

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Originally Posted by sabbiman

But here is my question...Amazon has in the last few years started to change ASIN numbers for some reason, as we routinely get those "ASIN Change Notification" emails.

I am wondering if any of my old spreadsheets have old ASINs that have been retired, is that a trigger for Amazon's system that I am using old spreadsheets?

ASIN #'s do not change, the content of the listing itself does. This includes: Photos, descriptions, UPC code, etc.

You will need to follow the 5 to 1 advice, period.

mhhbizz · #3 09-30-2015

quick question.

does it still work the 5 to 1 ratio if we put the other 5 to be of higher price that people wont possibly buy them from us? like more than 10-20quid more than the highest seller? or is not very sensible?

Taking The Micky · #4 09-30-2015

Just price it mid way, you won't sell anything, and if you do buy it from the cheapest sell and make a few quid

GhostOfAmazon · #5 09-30-2015

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quick question.

does it still work the 5 to 1 ratio if we put the other 5 to be of higher price that people wont possibly buy them from us? like more than 10-20quid more than the highest seller? or is not very sensible?

Yes, that's actually the most efficient way to dilute your inventory.

sabbiman · #6 09-30-2015

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ASIN #'s do not change, the content of the listing itself does. This includes: Photos, descriptions, UPC code, etc.

You will need to follow the 5 to 1 advice, period.

Not sure where you are selling, or what you are selling...but ASINs do change on the American Amazon site. And they change quite often.

We get emails all the time saying that ASINs have changed.

Not sure what the reason is...but am thinking that if you had spreadsheets that contained old retired ASINs, this could be a way that Amazon knows that you are a seller from a previous time using old spreadsheets...and not someone who updated their inventory fresh just to start selling.

Nobody else think this?

GhostOfAmazon · #7 10-01-2015

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Originally Posted by sabbiman

Not sure where you are selling, or what you are selling...but ASINs do change on the American Amazon site. And they change quite often.

We get emails all the time saying that ASINs have changed.

Not sure what the reason is...but am thinking that if you had spreadsheets that contained old retired ASINs, this could be a way that Amazon knows that you are a seller from a previous time using old spreadsheets...and not someone who updated their inventory fresh just to start selling.

Nobody else think this?

Again: THE NUMBER DOES NOT CHANGE!

The CONTENT changes, not the #!

Taking The Micky · #8 10-01-2015

Amazon never change or delete an ASIN, its there backbone for there entire database.

What they will do, if a ASIN becomes outdated they will create a new ASIN for that item but the original ASIN remains intact.

Hope that clarifies

GhostOfAmazon · #9 10-01-2015

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Originally Posted by Taking The Micky

Amazon never change or delete an ASIN, its there backbone for there entire database.

What they will do, if a ASIN becomes outdated they will create a new ASIN for that item but the original ASIN remains intact.

Hope that clarifies

That is also false.

They WILL delete ASINs they do not like. ESPECIALLY Seller generated ASINs.

I have had both ASINS I've created and ASINs created by others deleted, *POOF* "This page does not exist".

Taking The Micky · #10 10-01-2015

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That is also false.

They WILL delete ASINs they do not like. ESPECIALLY Seller generated ASINs.

I have had both ASINS I've created and ASINs created by others deleted, *POOF* "This page does not exist".

Earlier you said "ASIN don't change" please make your mind up.

"QUOTE FROM YOU" ASIN #'s do not change, the content of the listing itself does.

Amazon don't delete anything, they may remove it from your view but they still have access to tho that ASIN.

St0len_love · #11 10-01-2015

So since this post it here i have a similar question as to OP:

All the products i sell are mostly sold by a lot of company's and its 15k SKU... if i mass upload them would amazon be going crazy... should i hire Channeladvisor or some other company to do this process for me to be amazon safe

GhostOfAmazon · #12 10-01-2015

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Originally Posted by St0len_love

So since this post it here i have a similar question as to OP:

All the products i sell are mostly sold by a lot of company's and its 15k SKU... if i mass upload them would amazon be going crazy... should i hire Channeladvisor or some other company to do this process for me to be amazon safe

Listing 15k of OLD stock, regardless as to it's creator, will link you and shut your account down.

GhostOfAmazon · #13 10-01-2015

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Earlier you said "ASIN don't change" please make your mind up.

"QUOTE FROM YOU" ASIN #'s do not change, the content of the listing itself does.

It's not hard to understand. Amazon won't change ASIN 12345 to 67890. That does not happen.

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Amazon don't delete anything, they may remove it from your view but they still have access to tho that ASIN.

Proof? Didn't think so...

dealagreeproceed · #14 10-01-2015

who would win in this argument GOA vs a wall

Taking The Micky · #15 10-01-2015

So basically GOA, you are saying amazon, "the largest retailer in the world" I believe amazon are now,will delete history of sales to a particular ASIN. You don't need proof, no retailer such as amazon or even myself would delete sales records and history. If this is done a company is leaving its self wide open for investigation. As I said earlier the ASIN may be removed from public view but never from amazon's database.

GhostOfAmazon · #16 10-01-2015

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So basically GOA, you are saying amazon, "the largest retailer in the world" I believe amazon are now,will delete history of sales to a particular ASIN. You don't need proof, no retailer such as amazon or even myself would delete sales records and history. If this is done a company is leaving its self wide open for investigation. As I said earlier the ASIN may be removed from public view but never from amazon's database.

YES, THEY DO.

For example, I was once selling an item I created titled "Email Delivery" (Name of Digital Product). It was a code for an Xbox 360 Game. I sold hundreds of this item over a 3 month period. Then, one day----"Poof"---gone.

As you know, or SHOULD know, it's against Amazon policy for third party sellers to offer intangible goods. The ASIN in history. It will NEVER go back again. How do I know? I sold this item 2 years ago. Still gone.

They will delete, with extreme prejudice, any ASIN that does NOT follow their rules or guidelines. If you create a listing for an AK-47, you think they just "remove it from the customers view"? If so, I have beachfront property in Iowa to sell you.....

Taking The Micky · #17 10-01-2015

Sorry not arguing, but no public company listed on NYSE will delete sales data. just imagine the fall out. Nice beaches in Iowa, bet the surfing's great.

GhostOfAmazon · #18 10-01-2015

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Sorry not arguing, but no public company listed on NYSE will delete sales data. just imagine the fall out. Nice beaches in Iowa, bet the surfing's great.

Please, show me one link, article, or any sort of evidence that you're not pulling this false info out of your rear-end. One shred. What laws prohibit it? Amazon is a private company, they can do as they like, as long as the write it in the TOU. Just like stealing sellers funds. THAT should be illegal, but it happens regularly.

Now stop trolling.

Taking The Micky · #19 10-01-2015

I dont understand why I argue with the small brained people on this forum.

1) Amazon is listed on NASDAQ and there shares are $520.72 at today's prices. This is a public company, where is your knowledge.
2) Amazon don't steal funds, its in there T&C that they can retain monies if they suspect fraud. If you or other people don't like it, find somewhere else to sell. Simple.
3) Anyone with a partial brain knows that you cannot delete sales data, sales are sales and need to accounted for. Maybe you run your business different and if you do good luck with the IRS when they investigate. What do you say " oh sorry I deleted that information, does it matter" Fcuk me.

GhostOfAmazon · #20 10-01-2015

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1) Amazon is listed on NASDAQ and there shares are $520.72 at today's prices. This is a public company, where is your knowledge.

Semantics. Amazon is still a PRIVATE company, as in, it's owned by Jeff Bezos, NOT the Fed.

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2) Amazon don't steal funds, its in there T&C that they can retain monies if they suspect fraud. If you or other people don't like it, find somewhere else to sell. Simple.

Semantics. The funds do not belong to Amazon, they belong to the seller. The funds are NOT refunded to the customer, they are kept by Amazon. Call it what you will.

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3) Anyone with a partial brain knows that you cannot delete sales data, sales are sales and need to accounted for. Maybe you run your business different and if you do good luck with the IRS when they investigate. What do you say " oh sorry I deleted that information, does it matter" Fcuk me.

Are you retarded? I mean, honestly, do you have a mental disorder?

You think deleting a product page and removing the SALES DATA must BOTH occur if one does? What planet do you live on? You can delete a PRODUCT PAGE from say, EBAY (happens CONSTANTLY). The SALES DATA does not cease to exist.

Go away, troll!

Taking The Micky · #21 10-02-2015

I think your the troll.

Jeff Bezos owns 18% of amazon, the rest is owned by investors. No way is that a private company.

According to amazon terms of trade the funds are there's. SIMPLE. Otherwise if you feel that its not correct start litigation against them. You will lose.

Sales data is linked to a product code and amazon call those ASIN.

I don't think you quite understand amazon and what an ASIN is. An ASIN is the ultimate stock code for amazon and everything is linked to it, sales revenue etc. I have had many meeting with amazon execs over the years in the UK over in Slough, and amazon biggest regret is starting ASIN.

So maybe you should learn your history, ASIN is there for ever.

GhostOfAmazon · #22 10-02-2015

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Originally Posted by Taking The Micky

Sales data is linked to a product code and amazon call those ASIN.

I don't think you quite understand amazon and what an ASIN is. An ASIN is the ultimate stock code for amazon and everything is linked to it, sales revenue etc. I have had many meeting with amazon execs over the years in the UK over in Slough, and amazon biggest regret is starting ASIN.

So maybe you should learn your history, ASIN is there for ever.

Which goes back to my original statement....Amazon does not change an ASIN #.

The ASIN # and the PRODUCT PAGE are two separate entities....

Keeping a # and deleting a PRODUCT PAGE can both occur simultaneously.

If you feel the need to argue further, I suggest you do some research into how data storage works...