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identity_crisis 10-07-2015 04:05 PM

Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
I have a question im hoping someone will be able to answer. Over 2 years ago I used to sell posters on Amazon of celebrity images and got closed down due to being reported several times for selling copyright protected images.

Ive moved on from this now and buy and sell used alloy wheels through ebay and gumtree but it suffers badly over christmas and got me thinking. My partner used to also have an amazon account selling cushions she used to make herself. Was steady through the year but made some good money over the holiday period.

She got her account closed as they linked it to my own account so she can no longer sell them on amazon. Question is if I set up a ghost account so we can sell them again especially through christmas would it flag up with amazon that they are the same items?

The items are still on amazon although showing as out of stock, these were items that were created by us on that account so wondering whether a new account suddenly selling an item that was only being sold by an account thats been suspended would be a fast way to them closing it straight down.

elmo 10-07-2015 04:10 PM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
Its possible, but you'll have to make sure all the details are unique and have not been used before. List other items for sale, not just that 1 particular item. Price the other items high enough that others wouldn't buy, but not high enough where it looks suspicious.

Phd 10-07-2015 05:39 PM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
The simplest way would be to list these items again using a different UPC code. You loose the 'rating' listing but have a clean listed new product.

identity_crisis 10-08-2015 08:16 AM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
We had about 250 products running at the time. If I created new products using new UPC's, new images for the products and just slowly built things up rather than dumping everything on at once we shouldnt flag up any allerts?

jeffweico 10-08-2015 10:48 AM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
If everything is different you SHOULD be able to do this, but remember that any buyers could STILL report the new listings as violating Amazon's policies.

rsot 10-08-2015 12:04 PM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by identity_crisis (Post 712076)
We had about 250 products running at the time. If I created new products using new UPC's, new images for the products and just slowly built things up rather than dumping everything on at once we shouldnt flag up any allerts?

That is a lot of products on a new account

identity_crisis 10-08-2015 01:25 PM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
I wouldnt put them all in one go. Just build it up slowly. The cushions wont be a problem with being reported as they were her own designs.

mhhbizz 10-08-2015 03:35 PM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
i think your plan is alright. you can definitely build the ghost account slowly.

if you ever wanted to list on the old listing, just make sure you are already an established seller that have sold some other stuffs or made already some other listings that are not related.

hope that helps

fantomas0405 10-09-2015 08:34 AM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffweico (Post 712103)
If everything is different you SHOULD be able to do this, but remember that any buyers could STILL report the new listings as violating Amazon's policies.

I am in the same situation as identity_crisis that is unique listings that only me is selling and now that I am suspended those items show as out of stock. I am thinking to recreate them all using new UPCs however I am worried of exactly of what jeff is pointing out. How long do they remain in the system as "dead" ASINSs assuming no one comes to resell them? They surely do not stay there indefinitely do they?

Taking The Micky 10-09-2015 08:18 PM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
I am sure if those goods were unique to you and nobody has sold them since you were suspended and all of a sudden a new seller starts selling them you will be linked. ASIN are in the system forever, they are never deleted. They may be hidden from view but never deleted.

identity_crisis 10-11-2015 05:04 AM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
Well I have a few products I never sold on amazon so will start with those build things up slowly then introduce the cushions but create brand new products and use new images and see how I get on.

fantomas0405 10-11-2015 10:23 AM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taking The Micky (Post 712532)
I am sure if those goods were unique to you and nobody has sold them since you were suspended and all of a sudden a new seller starts selling them you will be linked. ASIN are in the system forever, they are never deleted. They may be hidden from view but never deleted.

They are hidden from viewing in amazon but they still show up in google and can be viewed by following the links from there although they are unavailable for sale.
So it seems its better for sellers of unique products to relist them with new UPCs and create brand new products. However I am thinking that if you do not change the titles and photos you are running a higher risk of those new listings running side by side with the old unavailable listings in google and get linked by customers who might report this to amazon...or am I thinking too much?

Phd 10-11-2015 11:00 AM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fantomas0405 (Post 712847)
They are hidden from viewing in amazon but they still show up in google and can be viewed by following the links from there although they are unavailable for sale.
So it seems its better for sellers of unique products to relist them with new UPCs and create brand new products. However I am thinking that if you do not change the titles and photos you are running a higher risk of those new listings running side by side with the old unavailable listings in google and get linked by customers who might report this to amazon...or am I thinking too much?

Re-using the old titles may link, but doubtful solely on that.
The pictures are another story though. DO NOT reuse the pictures, take new ones.
The old pics contain too much data and you will be linked (90%).
Hopefully you can make clean photos for the new listings.

fantomas0405 10-11-2015 08:04 PM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Phd (Post 712858)
Re-using the old titles may link, but doubtful solely on that.
The pictures are another story though. DO NOT reuse the pictures, take new ones.
The old pics contain too much data and you will be linked (90%).
Hopefully you can make clean photos for the new listings.

You mean that reusing the same old pics on new listings with new UPCs will put the account in the radar of the Amazon bots? Do they really have systems to check this too? I was more thinking that it is more likely customers noticing old and new listings in google with same pics and reporting to amazon.
Changing the titles slightly is easy enough but its a lot of work to make new pics making this hardly worth it. Unless a simple thing like changing the contrast or brightness of the pic makes it "new" again. Any suggestions?

TOOKNAPA 10-11-2015 08:48 PM

Re: Selling Items that noone else is selling
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fantomas0405 (Post 712951)
You mean that reusing the same old pics on new listings with new UPCs will put the account in the radar of the Amazon bots? Do they really have systems to check this too? I was more thinking that it is more likely customers noticing old and new listings in google with same pics and reporting to amazon.
Changing the titles slightly is easy enough but its a lot of work to make new pics making this hardly worth it. Unless a simple thing like changing the contrast or brightness of the pic makes it "new" again. Any suggestions?

maybe you can use something like Exif Stripper to cleam metadata of you pictures


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