Amazon listing removed - inauthentic

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by Taking The Micky

GOA, I certainly don't sell home furniture, but an amusing assumption. Products I sell come under the highly counterfeited umbrella.

However if you buy your goods from a recognised licensed distributor and have invoices then you should have no problem proving your goods are legit. But if you are buying from China you will get problems.

It doesn't matter Micky. You can have the documents and all your ducks in a row and STILL get blocked from the ASIN. See OPs issue above.

It also doesn't address generic goods....you can create your own generic product and get a complaint and still be blocked...even if the item is unbranded. I see these threads at least once a week.

Your naivety is very cute, but I'm afraid your judgement that every product removal Amazon makes is justified is far from the truth.

[Taking The Micky]

Again I will disagree, I would suspect amazon get it right most of the time. If I am selling a DVD from Universal and supply an invoice from Universal then that product would not be blocked.
The OP, we have his post, but he could be selling items that I listed earlier in the thread.
The problem with a forum like this, is that everyone has had a problem with amazon thats why we all here. I have had mine and lost over $100k in deleted accounts. But I realise that a coin has two sides. People knowingly sell or unknowingly sell counterfeit and thats the main reason people get suspended, step 2 they try again and get linked.

I am not naive but maybe you are in believing everything that is written on a forum.

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by Taking The Micky

Again I will disagree, I would suspect amazon get it right most of the time. If I am selling a DVD from Universal and supply an invoice from Universal then that product would not be blocked.
The OP, we have his post, but he could be selling items that I listed earlier in the thread.
The problem with a forum like this, is that everyone has had a problem with amazon thats why we all here. I have had mine and lost over $100k in deleted accounts. But I realise that a coin has two sides. People knowingly sell or unknowingly sell counterfeit and thats the main reason people get suspended, step 2 they try again and get linked.

I am not naive but maybe you are in believing everything that is written on a forum.

There's no incentive to lie. If you sold phakes, who cares? This is an anonymous forum. No one here is going after you. People make mistakes.

I agree, some people do lie. But I don't think that when someone says they were selling generic unbranded items and someone said they were phake that they are lying. That's silly. I know how brutal Amazon is about the subject from experience. Perhaps you have great wholesale relationships with awesome, well known brands. If so, congrats. I guarantee you are not the average person if that's the case. Pat yourself on the back, but get off your high horse.

If you really think you're untouchable, PM me some of your accounts store links, and I'll use my stealth buyer accounts to make a few complaints about authenticity. We'll figure out who's really right about the way Amazon handles complaints.

[Taking The Micky]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

There's no incentive to lie. If you sold phakes, who cares? This is an anonymous forum. No one here is going after you. People make mistakes.

I agree, some people do lie. But I don't think that when someone says they were selling generic unbranded items and someone said they were phake that they are lying. That's silly. I know how brutal Amazon is about the subject from experience. Perhaps you have great wholesale relationships with awesome, well known brands. If so, congrats. I guarantee you are not the average person if that's the case. Pat yourself on the back, but get off your high horse.

If you really think you're untouchable, PM me some of your accounts store links, and I'll use my stealth buyer accounts to make a few complaints about authenticity. We'll figure out who's really right about the way Amazon handles complaints.

Buddy, why would I give out any information on myself or my companies to a complete stranger, cos thats what you are.

Yes I have an excellent relationship with amazon as a vendor and as a retail merchant and now they run pretty much hand in hand. But I still lost a fortune through linking in the early days before stealth etc was even thought of, luckily this was never linked to my vendor account.

And I will stand by what I said earlier, I believe amazon get it right most of the time and the majority of people on the forum have fcuked up one way or another with amazon.

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by Taking The Micky

Buddy, why would I give out any information on myself or my companies to a complete stranger, cos thats what you are.

Yes I have an excellent relationship with amazon as a vendor and as a retail merchant and now they run pretty much hand in hand. But I still lost a fortune through linking in the early days before stealth etc was even thought of, luckily this was never linked to my vendor account.

And I will stand by what I said earlier, I believe amazon get it right most of the time and the majority of people on the forum have fcuked up one way or another with amazon.

That's what I thought. You won't put your money where your mouth is.

Stealth accounts aren't real info. You're not afraid of me, you're afraid I might be right. And I am.

The day you are willing to put your business at risk for your theories is the day I'll listen. Until then, it's hypocrisy.

I'm done arguing about the subject. Plenty of evidence to show how Amazon deals with complaints. You're guilty until proven innocent, and sometimes even then---still guilty. Nice chatting with you.

[Taking The Micky]

Just admit you are wrong once again.

Afraid is totally stupid word, why should I give you any info on my companies,LLC, LTD, PLC, all the info held on my companies is public information and readily available for anyone to view, little do you know. Stealth for amazon as they don't search companies info, but not stealth for the general public. In the EU if you are a company your information of who you are is posted above your feedback with your VAT number.

To be honest your full of it.............as you confirmed earlier you had 4 hits and out as you could not provide the information amazon require to verify the authenticity of your goods. Any legitimate business has receipts to prove the authenticity of there goods, unless they are buying from China.

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by Taking The Micky

To be honest your full of it.............as you confirmed earlier you had 4 hits and out as you could not provide the information amazon require to verify the authenticity of your goods. Any legitimate business has receipts to prove the authenticity of there goods, unless they are buying from China.

Sigh.

No, I'm not. And if you're accusing me of it, you're essentially accusing half the Amazon side of the forum of it. Search "listing removed" or "listing blocked" or "counterfeit complaint" you'll find dozens of threads. Plenty of people buy legitimate goods and are still get blocked on Amazon. And, AGAIN, you can buy legitimate generic goods from China, or even create your own brand.

It comes down to the old "A rich man doesn't need to tell you he's rich." If you were as successful as you pretend, you wouldn't be here arguing with such scum as myself (to paraphrase you).

[Taking The Micky]

GOA, I basically here to relieve an element of boredom and help a few members trying to establish a stealth account.

When did I ever say I am rich or boast my wealth, never.

Plenty of people get listing blocked etc, for one reason only, amazon don't like what they are selling, wether counterfeit (usually the case), unlicensed product (original but not purchased through the licensed distributor), non copyrighted material, your own brand is more than likely copying someone else patent/copyright.

And I am not accusing you, you admitted to the forum that you have had 4 infringements of copyright/counterfeit goods accusations from amazon and your account was suspended, so maybe you are the "scum" as you call yourself for stealing rights holders property. I have had plenty of infringements but have the invoices to verify my goods are genuine whereas you seem not to process these for one reason or another.

[Taking The Micky]

So as in one post by another forum member, stop digging a deeper hole for yourself.

[GhostDog]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

In my opinion, it depends on the brand of the cartridge.

Obviously, as you just witnessed, a lot of customers are borderline retarded. They can't be bothered to read something as simple as a title or bulleted list. And it only takes ONE complaint to shut you down forever.

But then again, as you said----you sold thousands without any issues. So really, it's just luck of the draw. Sooner or later you might get some moron who can't read and calls your legitimate items phake. Nothing to be done about it.

It's been my experience that 4 complaints about inauthentic merchandise will result in a permanent account closure, though sometimes it takes fewer. Sometimes only 1 will kill an account. Depends on the age and history. But 4 is a guaranteed death sentence.

Thanks, I'll keep that info in mind.

[GhostOfAmazon]

Originally Posted by Taking The Micky

GOA, I basically here to relieve an element of boredom and help a few members trying to establish a stealth account.

When did I ever say I am rich or boast my wealth, never.

Plenty of people get listing blocked etc, for one reason only, amazon don't like what they are selling, wether counterfeit (usually the case), unlicensed product (original but not purchased through the licensed distributor), non copyrighted material, your own brand is more than likely copying someone else patent/copyright.

And I am not accusing you, you admitted to the forum that you have had 4 infringements of copyright/counterfeit goods accusations from amazon and your account was suspended, so maybe you are the "scum" as you call yourself for stealing rights holders property. I have had plenty of infringements but have the invoices to verify my goods are genuine whereas you seem not to process these for one reason or another.

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[dealagreeproceed]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

Sigh.


It comes down to the old "A rich man doesn't need to tell you he's rich." If you were as successful as you pretend, you wouldn't be here arguing with such scum as myself (to paraphrase you).

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so...what did we learn here today?

[Collin Scharter]

Originally Posted by GhostOfAmazon

Read the above. Every question you ask is answered in my above posts.

Also, I explicitly said you need proof of authenticity. Oftentimes, even if you have that it doesn't matter, as we see with GhostDog. 4 complaints and you're done, 9/10 times.

My account has 2 current complaints of authenticity, but I'm not sure where to obtain proof of authenticity since the supplier are in China and they are not the authorized distributor. I sell new and used item, never counterfeit. Can I make ⊗⊗⊗⊗ invoices to get over this, or Amazon will know and find out after contacting the invoice's contact information and result in suspension of my account?

[GhostOfAmazon]

Just STOP SELLING THE MERCHANDISE RESULTING IN THE COMPLAINTS!

It's really not that hard.

Sell that **** on eBay, or if you really need to sell it on Amazon, do it on a separate stealth account. Or kiss your account goodbye----3rd strike, you're out!