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cgbuys23 01-15-2009 07:03 PM

amazon suspension
 
Hello, has anyone successfully gotten back on amazon? I'm not sure how they keep tracking me and suspending me. I have tried the same methods that I use on ebay but amazon has a different way of tracking users. Any suggestions? Thank you

philly387 01-15-2009 11:01 PM

Honestly, I don't think there is any other way to track you besides the way ebay does. I think you are doing something wrong. Maybe you aren't but I can't think of anything else to track you by.

cgbuys23 01-16-2009 03:08 PM

well i use gift cards, use skype for phone number, clean cookies with cc cleaner, tried creating new user ids on windows. use netzero from different locations for the ip. Im going to try to change the brand of the gift card see if that works. I noticed the gift cards i used the first four digits were all the same. Maybe that could be it. any other suggestions? thank you

philly387 01-16-2009 03:18 PM

maybe use something other than skype for phone number.

TMiles 01-16-2009 04:34 PM

They do have better ways to track you. I have not figured it out, but I am positive, they can track you differently than eBay. I have opened a multitude of eBay accounts with success. The exact same methods with Amazon fail.

The best bet is to use the library for your internet access ans use a go-phone for phone verification.....


Good luck

cgbuys23 01-18-2009 06:45 PM

yeah im also 100% positive that their tracking methods is different then ebay. I've created many ebay accounts, but cant seem to figure out amazons tracking methods. :confused:

yaw1800 01-18-2009 07:22 PM

You guys have me terrified of amazon lol... i havent opened a seller's account yet but there's more and more stories of people getting suspended. I have 3 buyer accounts with them and thats about it. I'll keep reading up on what NOT to do on Amazon .. any shared stories would be appreciated

cgbuys23 01-18-2009 09:36 PM

I got suspended because i issued 5 refunds to buyers. I got no warning or emails, and they never responded to my emails about getting reinstated. I had no idea.

clotinc 01-21-2009 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgbuys23 (Post 73108)
I got suspended because i issued 5 refunds to buyers. I got no warning or emails, and they never responded to my emails about getting reinstated. I had no idea.

If you read their seller policy you are not suppose to refund more than a certain % and if you do you will definitely get suspended. They are really strict on this. If you made 20 transactions and issued 5 refunds there's a good chance you will get suspended.

Jonas 01-22-2009 08:10 PM

Why do people go, "I hate eBay forcing me to use paypal and snooping on me and freezing them." and then they go to sell on Amazon.com that does much more than eBay?

TMiles 01-23-2009 09:13 AM

So true Jonas....

cgbuys23 01-23-2009 09:58 PM

because we want to make money.

Marsupial 02-01-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cgbuys23 (Post 72839)
well i use gift cards, use skype for phone number, clean cookies with cc cleaner, tried creating new user ids on windows. use netzero from different locations for the ip. Im going to try to change the brand of the gift card see if that works. I noticed the gift cards i used the first four digits were all the same. Maybe that could be it. any other suggestions? thank you

Are you a ProMerchant, or are (were) you using a regular seller's account? I'm not sure if that makes a diff, but I'm trying to put some pieces together myself, too.

ebaykilla 02-05-2009 11:14 PM

make sure you clean ALL of your flash cookies and delete the folders that held those flash cookies. i used to get linked as well but when I started to delete the folders I have been selling with no issues after every suspension.

aquariusvc 02-06-2009 06:20 PM

after delete the flash cookies and using new computer i has get suspended every seller account have 1 withdraw i don't know why? what the way amazon track you ? I do this like with ebay with no problems but amazon i has fail.

ebaykilla 02-06-2009 11:12 PM

there is something you are missing...are you using new bank account numbers each time? i make new accounts with ease on amazon...much easier than ebay.

TMiles 02-07-2009 08:55 AM

Again, please read this thread carefully. AMAZON HAS BETTER TRACKING METHODS THAN EBAY. EBAY STEALTH DOES NOT WORK ON AMAZON.

USE A GO-PHONE (NEW NUMBER) FOR PHONE VERIFICATION AND A PUBLIC LIBRARY'S COMPUTER AND YOU WILL BE FINE. DO NOT USE YOUR COMPUTER. THAT IS YOUR MISTAKE. THEY HAVE SOME SPYWARE THAT YOU CANNOT FIND.

Jonas 02-07-2009 09:03 AM

TMiles2564, spyware huh? Lots of sites would actually like to know how. Wikis for one. Secondly, a news article said craigslist started telephone verification purely because they had a problem with spammers that have bots specifically tailored for their site that can read all their human-unreadable CAPTCHAs and craigslist just can't ban the bot.

Is amazon using flash or java? Or is amazon simply trying to track you by your browser cache so you clear cookies but not cache?

Maybe amazon's tracking system has something to do with them requiring your bank account and then trying to get your personal info from that.

TMiles 02-07-2009 11:50 AM

I can guarantee it has nothing to do with the bank account. If it did, then why can you go to the library and use a go phone and be up and running. Use a different computer and phone and you will succeed.

I do not know how, I just know they catch you every time. Clearing cache and cookies does not work. Changing IP addresses does not work either.

Simply go to the library....

Jonas 02-08-2009 07:22 AM

Miles, if you try it with java and flash disabled, then it might be something related to IP range combined with some information you enter. It might use user-agent or use javascript to find your screen resolution, but well one thing you can try is try dialing long distance across the country and then do a test account and see what happens.

TMiles 02-08-2009 05:29 PM

Jonas,

Good advice. I will try when I get some time....


Thanks

ebaykilla 02-09-2009 10:42 PM

I disagree that stealth dose not work with amazon. I use the stealth method successfully all of the time. Just make sure you delete the flash folders that holds the cookies after a suspension. I have done this at least 5 times in the past year alone with success with the same PC. if it were not for refunds or bad feedback I would never get suspended on amazon.


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