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Bunneh 01-20-2016 10:32 PM

Uk vcc?
 
See what i mean... Untouchable. [emoji57]

I thought you would actually READ what we were actually trying to say, but instead you decide to change the subject and make yourself look silly [emoji849]

If you like i will draw you a picture??

All we were saying was it is not Clever to give false details to a financial institution.
Maybe when you next sign a document take note " false info is a criminal offence"
You may have passed the first check when you opened your account. It does not mean they will never look at you again and when they do you will see what we were trying to say.

I never once said mismached names are not allowed or that stealth is over [emoji58]
There are a few high street banks who have gotten stricter with how there money received and they do search the electoral roll for you.

You cannot go around telling people it is okay to give banks ⊗⊗⊗⊗ address's ? Maybe its okay in your neck of the woods but in the real world its not.

Next time if you battle to understand what one is trying to say to you. ASK for clarification or use google translate.

Taking The Micky 01-20-2016 11:08 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
My "neck of the woods" is the UK buddy, however I live in the PH and the US as an expat.

All documents I sign are signed in my personnel name or my companies.

You said earlier in this post that mismatched names is fraud.

Please produce evidence rather just saying what you believe.

Bunneh 01-20-2016 11:16 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Sweetpea if you manage to get away with selling foofoo items on ebay. It does not mean its right does it?
If you went tomorrow and robbed a bank and got away with it. It does not mean it is okay and that i will get away with it to?? Does it??

How is this hard for you to understand?

Oh and Please show me where i said mismached names is fraud??

Taking The Micky 01-20-2016 11:30 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Your quote "I have heard of people getting bank accounts closed because they received funds into there bank in a different name. The banks fraud department looks deeper and then the account is shut because of the multiple issues"

Anyway, time to hit bars for a few beers xx

Bunneh 01-20-2016 11:38 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
That is because it is the fraud department that deals with such things at the banks.
They monitor the dodgy activity lol..

I hit a glitch on rbs website a year or so ago when trying to open a savings account. It opened 3 when i only wanted 1 and it set off flags.
the fraud team called me saying they wanted to close my account. I fought it ( took over a week ) but it was reopened and i was compensated to.

Anyway this is getting tired now.. All i was saying is you playing with fire giving banks false info and if they ever checked and found out they would for sure close your account and there wont be much you can do about it so far away.

Taking The Micky 01-21-2016 12:37 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
I give you a 10-1 bet. Amazon Pay Pal or E bay will close you quicker than a bank, then the bank account is useless any way. I bet more people on this forum have lost more amazon accounts, pay pal etc than a bank account, thats why the forum is here. Maybe start a forum "I lost my account" lol

JamesNorth101 01-21-2016 03:37 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
That is because most people he do not try to use fraudulent bank accounts :thumb:

Bunneh 01-21-2016 03:40 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 740248)
That is because most people he do not try to use fraudulent bank accounts :thumb:

some people need to learn the hard way to see sense :nerd:

JamesNorth101 01-21-2016 03:47 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taking The Micky (Post 740140)
Actually James, what I do I cut a deal with the Company formations company for use of there registered office facilities. A lot cheaper.

Hmm OK. That works just as well. Its not really a competition...

But there you go. You just found a way for yourself that avoids adding a random address to your bank account!

dan_ebay 01-21-2016 04:01 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 739457)
If people want to get back onto Amazon and use debit cards than its fairly easy to do without putting your credit report at risk or putting yourself in the position of committing bank fraud

Get a business address
Get a business bank account
Get a business debit card linked to business debit card

Nice one. Been thinking about doing this with ebay/paypal for a while as I'm vat registered so expect I'll get a inspection at some point and not looking forward to the stealth aspect lol.
If I get a business for paypal will the paypal receiving limit automatically go or still need ID?
And what do you do for the business accounts, file most 'businesses' as not traded and put it all through 1 main business or do you file accounts for them all?

JamesNorth101 01-21-2016 04:05 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
You always need to send ID to PayPal on order to remove the EU limits if you dont show up in their searches

Weirdly a lot of people who are opening their own accounts in their details have been asked to send in ID over the last few months as well

zane786 01-21-2016 12:12 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
ok lets talk about the virtual addresss part

its simple to get the address on your bank info becuase its your personal business bank

but the stealth info how would you register that on the virtual address you registered with your bank

as in amazon both the stealth and the bank card address has to match

hmmmmm

as i rang up a local work hub office and they said we only take letters from the person that has registered the office ie me not the stealth info :(

any help ???

JamesNorth101 01-21-2016 12:38 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
You dont actually need to get letters though. You just need the addresses to match

zane786 01-21-2016 12:50 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 740350)
You dont actually need to get letters though. You just need the addresses to match

but how do you get the stealth address to match the card ???

JamesNorth101 01-21-2016 12:58 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Its pretty clearly outlined already

Get business address
Get business bank account
Get business debit card
Open Amazon account with same address as business bank account

alikayani 01-21-2016 01:03 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Just tried to use cashplus business card with amazon and it failed, I know its not a proper debit card but it was working fine till november, anybody else have issue using cashplus?

JamesNorth101 01-21-2016 01:05 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Pretty sure its a prepaid card that they offer

You need a proper debit card

From what I have seen all prepaid cards are failing if the BIN shows it as a prepaid card

zane786 01-21-2016 01:11 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNorth101 (Post 740360)
Its pretty clearly outlined already

Get business address
Get business bank account
Get business debit card
Open Amazon account with same address as business bank account

what im trying to say is ...

Its pretty clearly outlined already

stealth acc

what iam trying to say is the business bank account is my own address that has already been used on the market place
so using that address for the stealth details only means they acc with be closed

how to get a address on my bank personal detaisl with added a stealth registered business details

JamesNorth101 01-21-2016 01:24 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
You need a new business address....

Open business in real details
Get new business address in real details
Open bank account in real details linked to new business address
Get debit card
Open Amazon using new business address. Use stealth for everything else

I am really not sure what but is being missed here

siriuscat 01-21-2016 03:03 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
‘Get a business address
Get a business bank account
Get a business debit card linked to business debit card’

Obviously the best method when starting from scratch, but what about established accounts? (apart from changing bank details :shhh:)

With a new business address and card/account set up, could you then change your long standing account address to match your new business details? The joy of verification documents will no doubt be triggered but would it work?

MichaelD 01-21-2016 03:23 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
I think that the only working card these days for UK is 3v, you can change your address freely

vetus 01-21-2016 03:42 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Yes, people do change business premises as well as residential addresses

JamesNorth101 01-21-2016 03:43 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MichaelD (Post 740408)
I think that the only working card these days for UK is 3v, you can change your address freely

Afraid that they will not work

siriuscat 01-21-2016 04:11 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
3v, Amazon, fubar :tears:

jane 01-21-2016 09:12 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rich6666 (Post 740095)
I have just added a real debit card as Jogsaw said to an amazon stealth account,

I now have access to the account. I can finally dispatch orders and answer messages.

would you please update your info when time comes to disbursment ?
if it's working , that will be a great find.
note: banks do check our info if we got a lot of money goes into our bank, one of my bank closed my account, forcing me to open a business account which i did.
the main problem is that once we change bank account on maazon, amazon will either put a review or a rolling reserve on my account.

mhhbizz 01-22-2016 03:30 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jane (Post 740516)
would you please update your info when time comes to disbursment ?
if it's working , that will be a great find.
note: banks do check our info if we got a lot of money goes into our bank, one of my bank closed my account, forcing me to open a business account which i did.
the main problem is that once we change bank account on maazon, amazon will either put a review or a rolling reserve on my account.

which bank is this please?

vetus 01-22-2016 07:12 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Banks are getting tighter on it.

If you use a personal account for business use in the HBoS group and you are taking a fair amount of funds into the personal accounts you WILL have problems and they also will hold your funds until you can provide proof of business. After this they will then refuse to do business with you.

Open business accounts if you want less problems and a better relationship with the bank.

onlinehelpneeded 01-22-2016 08:12 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
but if everyone uses companies formed with the address of the company provider surely addresses will be linked.

There are only about x companies that deal with company formation in the uk, if everyone uses for amazon how can it work ?

JamesNorth101 01-22-2016 08:15 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Using the company providers address or accountants address I generally don't think is a good idea hence giving other suggestions

fantomas0405 01-22-2016 08:59 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by onlinehelpneeded (Post 740638)
but if everyone uses companies formed with the address of the company provider surely addresses will be linked.

There are only about x companies that deal with company formation in the uk, if everyone uses for amazon how can it work ?

You can buy uk addresses that dont belong to the company providers this is not the problem...then u register the company on this address...the problem for me is opening uk business bank account or actually any type of uk bank account with no physical presence based on the ltd company registration..this is next to impossible

jane 01-22-2016 09:30 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mhhbizz (Post 740576)
which bank is this please?

it's halifax.
but i believe that all of banks will do eventually.

vetus 01-22-2016 10:06 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
There you go, as I said, HBoS group are the worst for it

rfloubo 01-23-2016 08:02 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
You mean the lloyds group.

vetus 01-23-2016 08:06 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Regardless still includes those banks. Avoid if you like to keep your money in your possession.

Ebayorbust 01-23-2016 08:08 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vetus (Post 741008)
Regardless still includes those banks. Avoid if you like to keep your money in your possession.

Have you had issues with them?

JamesNorth101 01-23-2016 08:09 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Lloyds, Halifax, Bank of Wales and Bank of Scotland are the main banks that make up the Lloyds Banking Group, which HBoS is part of

Personally Lloyds are the only one I have had issues with and that was a few years ago now.

Halifax has always been great for me and most other users I have talked to

Ebayorbust 01-23-2016 08:12 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Yep, Callidus was always claiming Halifax was a major issue. Not sure why though. He never elaborated.

JamesNorth101 01-23-2016 08:14 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Stevebill was the other reported case, but there was a pretty obvious reason behind that at the time (which I think Steve :yar: realises now!)

Taking The Micky 01-23-2016 10:58 AM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebayorbust (Post 741012)
Yep, Callidus was always claiming Halifax was a major issue. Not sure why though. He never elaborated.

I think Callidus had problems with PP and Lloyds, not amazon.

Halifax works great and so does Lloyds for me

rfloubo 01-23-2016 04:47 PM

Re: Uk vcc?
 
No problems with lloyds here either, but how much of this depends on the amount of money coming in and on how branches are run as opposed to hq policies?


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