| |
- Amazon
( https://www.aspkin.com/forums/amazon/)
| Princejames1 | 01-18-2016 09:14 AM |
Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Got a few closed UK accounts which have accrued storage fees for stock that I cant get out of FBA. It sure starts to add up when you have a few thousand units in a few accounts. I have tried repeatedly with multiple emails to get the stock back but I dont get a response to my emails. Even tried the MD.
I have now received notification of legal action to reclaim the negative balances on the amazon accounts, anyone else experienced notification of legal action from Amazon or similar?
Thanks |
| bartalion | 01-18-2016 09:17 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Have you tried emailing Jeff ? |
| Princejames1 | 01-18-2016 09:18 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Yes even tried Jeff!
Thanks |
| Taking The Micky | 01-18-2016 10:44 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Are the account deleted or suspended? |
| Princejames1 | 01-18-2016 11:29 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
I cant get access to any of them which I think means deleted. If they were suspended I think you can still get in to put a removal through.
Thanks |
| zane786 | 01-18-2016 11:47 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
same thing thats happened to me i had loads of stock in the amazon fba i cannt even access the account to check how much stock and how much they owe me
is there any legal way we can go around this as i am in a pickle also |
| Taking The Micky | 01-18-2016 01:59 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Princejames1
(Post 739079)
I cant get access to any of them which I think means deleted. If they were suspended I think you can still get in to put a removal through.
Thanks
| Yes, sounds like account is deleted.
Your stock is basically lost. If amazon delete an account these days its usually down to fraud which includes counterfeit goods etc.
They can do this legally as its in the T&C you agreed to.
Sorry |
| JamesNorth101 | 01-18-2016 02:11 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
The stock is gone for.
These items you were selling. Are you 100% sure of their origin and authenticity? |
| zane786 | 01-18-2016 02:11 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
yes i buy from a uk wholeseller |
| Taking The Micky | 01-18-2016 05:11 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by zane786
(Post 739149)
yes i buy from a uk wholeseller
| That means nothing, maybe the wholesaler is passing counterfeit onto you. |
| GreenBean | 01-18-2016 05:14 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by zane786
(Post 739149)
yes i buy from a uk wholeseller
| Means nothing....
Your onus as a seller was to check authenticity yourself and not take the word of any other party.
Sorry.
:pout: |
| JamesNorth101 | 01-18-2016 05:15 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by zane786
(Post 739149)
yes i buy from a uk wholeseller
| Have you done any checks on this UK wholesaler? |
| rfloubo | 01-19-2016 06:18 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taking The Micky
(Post 739140)
They can do this legally as its in the T&C you agreed to.
| If one has enough capital to purchase a well connected lawyer, this would mean nothing if the T&C goes against the jurisdiction own law. It'd just void the contract. |
| JamesNorth101 | 01-19-2016 06:21 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfloubo
(Post 739487)
If one has enough capital to purchase a well connected lawyer, this would mean nothing if the T&C goes against the jurisdiction own law. It'd just void the contract.
| A lot of people have tried and failed...
A lot of people have had their accounts deleted because they were selling questions items. If you cannot prove 100% that your items are totally above board then your really fighting a loosing battle |
| Princejames1 | 01-19-2016 06:31 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
You do have to wonder if the terms and conditions would really stand up in a court of law?
If you got that far down the line, wouldnt Amazon have to provide evidence that the items were counterfeit (by contacting the manufacturer or supplier?), because they took the action to hold them and close the account.
I think they just use customer feedback and if they have any questions over authenticity close the account. |
| JamesNorth101 | 01-19-2016 06:34 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
With Amazon you never get to the point where you can find out
They will send information request after request and tie you up in legalities for months / years
It would be down to you to prove the items are real, not Amazon to prove the are not real. |
| perfect30 | 01-19-2016 06:45 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
This is like the opposite world. Shouldn't Amazon provide proof to you first to support their claim that you are selling false goods? This way they can go around making such claims based on nothing at all. |
| JamesNorth101 | 01-19-2016 06:49 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
You really need to be making sure the items you sell are 100% authentic before you sell them anyway, so provide this proof would not really be an issue
If you want to not do that research to make sure items are 100% above board then you risk getting your account deleted |
| GreenBean | 01-19-2016 07:06 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfloubo
(Post 739487)
If one has enough capital to purchase a well connected lawyer, this would mean nothing if the T&C goes against the jurisdiction own law. It'd just void the contract.
| No, people with capital have tried and not succeeded.
:shhh: |
| dan_ebay | 01-19-2016 07:14 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Princejames1
(Post 739495)
You do have to wonder if the terms and conditions would really stand up in a court of law?
If you got that far down the line, wouldnt Amazon have to provide evidence that the items were counterfeit (by contacting the manufacturer or supplier?), because they took the action to hold them and close the account.
I think they just use customer feedback and if they have any questions over authenticity close the account.
| ofcourse they wouldn't lol.
People don't seem to understand in the UK theres the small claims court that costs like £20 to sort things like this, its not the US where you need a expensive 'attorney'.
T&C's mean nothing, exactly why royal mail never reply to any small claims regarding them only refunding the purchase cost of the item when they lose them rather than the sales price |
| rfloubo | 01-19-2016 08:00 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 739509)
No, people with capital have tried and not succeeded.
| That was because either:
a) the capital was not high enough
or
b) the lawyer was not connected enough |
| rfloubo | 01-19-2016 08:04 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_ebay
(Post 739511)
People don't seem to understand in the UK theres the small claims court that costs like £20 to sort things like this, its not the US where you need a expensive 'attorney'.
|
Awwww! That is so cute!
I still remember fondly my days of innocence. |
| Princejames1 | 01-19-2016 08:05 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Now this might sound like an American legal drama, but what about a class action suit?
I wonder how many sellers have suffered from this? I am guessing in the hundreds, I guess the only issue is with the stealth accounts and sellers are not generally too happy to expose genuine details |
| JamesNorth101 | 01-19-2016 08:19 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfloubo
(Post 739518)
That was because either:
a) the capital was not high enough
or
b) the lawyer was not connected enough
| You are competing with a company who has 100's of lawyers and a lot more money than the vast majority of people
Its just not going to happen |
| rfloubo | 01-19-2016 07:01 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
E x a c t l y. |
| GreenBean | 01-19-2016 07:05 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfloubo
(Post 739518)
That was because either:
a) the capital was not high enough
or
b) the lawyer was not connected enough
| Avoid assumptions.
They make people look assinine.
:smash: |
| Taking The Micky | 01-19-2016 07:11 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_ebay
(Post 739511)
ofcourse they wouldn't lol.
People don't seem to understand in the UK theres the small claims court that costs like £20 to sort things like this, its not the US where you need a expensive 'attorney'.
T&C's mean nothing, exactly why royal mail never reply to any small claims regarding them only refunding the purchase cost of the item when they lose them rather than the sales price
| OK big Dan, please show me ONE example where amazon.co.uk have lost a claim in the UK courts. They haven't as you have file any action in their jurisdiction which is Luxembourg. You can file a claim and it will get thrown out. Simple |
| Taking The Micky | 01-19-2016 07:15 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by rfloubo
(Post 739518)
That was because either:
a) the capital was not high enough
or
b) the lawyer was not connected enough
| I am on one that has tried and blew nearly £50k on legals. It is impossible unless you have unlimited money and then you have no guarantee of winning or even getting a hearing. |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Princejames1
(Post 739079)
I cant get access to any of them which I think means deleted. If they were suspended I think you can still get in to put a removal through.
Thanks
| Sounds like they have been deleted indeed |
| dan_ebay | 01-19-2016 10:56 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taking The Micky
(Post 739713)
OK big Dan, please show me ONE example where amazon.co.uk have lost a claim in the UK courts. They haven't as you have file any action in their jurisdiction which is Luxembourg. You can file a claim and it will get thrown out. Simple
| http://tamebay.com/2014/02/seller-ta...yer-claim.html
Heres one for ebay who are also in luxembourg, cba trawling google for amazon.
I've done the same with DHL, doubt they're UK based either Quote:
Originally Posted by Taking The Micky
(Post 739714)
I am on one that has tried and blew nearly £50k on legals. It is impossible unless you have unlimited money and then you have no guarantee of winning or even getting a hearing.
| It was 100k last time jackanory, make your mind up on how your fantasy story goes |
| GreenBean | 01-19-2016 11:49 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Sorry the topic is amazon.
Quoting ebay is not scoring brownie points |
| dan_ebay | 01-19-2016 11:58 PM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 739784)
Sorry the topic is amazon.
Quoting ebay is not scoring brownie points
| Well they're both huge companies based in Luxembourg, if you can take one to the smalls claims court then you can take the other. I would have a go at finding a amazon one but google is filled with them suing ⊗⊗⊗⊗ review sellers so too much effort |
| Taking The Micky | 01-20-2016 12:09 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_ebay
(Post 739770)
http://tamebay.com/2014/02/seller-ta...yer-claim.html
Heres one for ebay who are also in luxembourg, cba trawling google for amazon.
I've done the same with DHL, doubt they're UK based either
It was 100k last time jackanory, make your mind up on how your fantasy story goes
| E Bay........say no more PLEASE show amazon. No the loss was £100k in held funds and £50k on legals. Late night for a little boy. |
| GreenBean | 01-20-2016 12:13 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by dan_ebay
(Post 739786)
Well they're both huge companies based in Luxembourg, if you can take one to the smalls claims court then you can take the other. I would have a go at finding a amazon one but google is filled with them suing ⊗⊗⊗⊗ review sellers so too much effort
| The issues relate to amazon.
Companies differ in litigation.
:peace: |
| dan_ebay | 01-20-2016 01:34 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Taking The Micky
(Post 739787)
E Bay........say no more PLEASE show amazon. No the loss was £100k in held funds and £50k on legals. Late night for a little boy.
| Getting a bit mouthy aren't you, 'big man', 'little boy'. I'm in the Philippines in 6 weeks, give me a shout if you fancy discussing in person Grandad x |
| Taking The Micky | 01-20-2016 01:53 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Send me a PM. I am in currently in Ca. but leave Sunday. And yes I am Grandad x |
| rfloubo | 01-20-2016 06:03 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenBean
(Post 739712)
Avoid assumptions.
They make people look assinine.
| Oh, it's ok, you did not seem to look like it. As with correct spelling, a lot is in the eye of the beholder. |
| Princejames1 | 01-20-2016 07:04 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
OK so if the legal route wont work, how about taking it to the Police? |
| JamesNorth101 | 01-20-2016 07:06 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
The police are not going to do anything
They will tell you to talk to a lawyer |
| Princejames1 | 01-20-2016 07:09 AM |
Re: Anyone got a notification of legal action from Amazon?
The matter still comes under criminal law, because they are withholding goods and refusing to return them. It doesnt matter what their terms and conditions say. |
| All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:54 PM. | |
vBulletin® Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Ad Management by RedTyger |
