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Klemantina 07-09-2016 03:43 PM

Amazon scammers
 
Long story short I lost thousands to scammers on Amazon and I'm 99% sure I can win at least 10% of the losses if I complain to the right department. I tried to appeal but most of them failed.
If you can, please share an email of someone between the appeal department and Jeff Bezos. I know I can win some of those claims because I already won similar claims after appealing. The problem is that some of the employees are too lazy or stupid or aren't trained enough.
I also wonder how long customers can open AZ claims and return requests? is it 60 or 90 or 180 like Paypal?

elmo 07-09-2016 04:19 PM

Re: Amazon scammers
 
How are you losing money to scammers?

If you provide tracking showing signature delivery, that will stop the majority of scammers from winning disputes with their credit card companies

Klemantina 07-09-2016 04:48 PM

Re: Amazon scammers
 
The problem is mostly with returns.

e2free 07-09-2016 06:18 PM

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You have to proved more information as possible and someone will give you advice

For returns if they not contacted you within 30 days delivery of item you can simply add tracking no to a z claim and u will win simple

JamesNorth101 07-09-2016 06:20 PM

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How long after you are delivering items are people returning them? Return rates are usually only 2/3% only. What sort of return % are you getting and what is the reason for the return most the time?

Klemantina 07-09-2016 08:14 PM

Re: Amazon scammers
 
I don't want to share more because I don't want the wrong people to use the info.
Trust me the problem is not my items, the problem is the scammers/competitors.
I have been selling on Amazon for more than a year and only in the last couple of month it's been a nightmare.
I appreciate your help but all I need is an email to contact someone higher than the appeal department. I'm positive that I might be able to get some of my money back.

lulbert 07-10-2016 08:46 PM

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This is pretty strict and clean forum. Why not explain how the scam is going down aka this also helps others on here who sell on Amazon and even on eBay...

Gamefreak 07-12-2016 11:15 AM

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if its what I'm thinking happens all the time on amazon. they buy stuff and return their broken junk to u

Klemantina 07-12-2016 04:19 PM

Re: Amazon scammers
 
It's a mix of couple of strategies and I know I can win one of them because I got strong evidence to prove the scam. I really think the appeal department should get rid of some employees. The same person did the same scam on couple of my stores and got away with thousands. It's ridiculous how obvious his scam was and he still got away with it!

e2free 07-12-2016 05:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Klemantina (Post 785169)
I don't want to share more because I don't want the wrong people to use the info.
Trust me the problem is not my items, the problem is the scammers/competitors.
I have been selling on Amazon for more than a year and only in the last couple of month it's been a nightmare.
I appreciate your help but all I need is an email to contact someone higher than the appeal department. I'm positive that I might be able to get some of my money back.

if you dont want to share then why asking for help?
and what asked to share your personal information?:mad::mad::mad::mad:

amazon and another system works on some principle once you know them all well and good and u will not loose single penny

read your first post what u asking from other

Kelly441 07-12-2016 07:55 PM

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My biggest problem with returns are people who make up a problem just to avoid the restocking fee. I have not been bold enough to charge the restocking fee for "defective" returns when there is nothing wrong with the item, but I don't believe I would win an A to Z case anyway just by saying there were no defects when I got it back

Klemantina 07-12-2016 09:02 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by e2free (Post 785655)
if you dont want to share then why asking for help?
and what asked to share your personal information?:mad::mad::mad::mad:

amazon and another system works on some principle once you know them all well and good and u will not loose single penny

read your first post what u asking from other

I just want an email of someone higher than the appeal department and I shared because I thought there is a chance that someone more experienced than me had the same situation. It's worth a shot.
Again, I'm not going to share how the scam works, sorry. You might think it's obvious and you might be right. Let's just leave it alone.

e2free 07-13-2016 02:21 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kelly441 (Post 785683)
My biggest problem with returns are people who make up a problem just to avoid the restocking fee. I have not been bold enough to charge the restocking fee for "defective" returns when there is nothing wrong with the item, but I don't believe I would win an A to Z case anyway just by saying there were no defects when I got it back

Yes that's quite normal 50% of my return works fine without any issue but what can you do

Nothing can be done

Klemantina 07-29-2016 12:38 PM

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Here is what happened in one of the worst cases.
The customer opened an AZ "item not received" claim.
I uploaded tracking showing that the item was delivered to his address.
I was 100% sure I'm going to win but for some weird reason they decided to give him a refund. I got a little angry and filed an appeal.
I explained in the appeal how to track items and gave them a link to prove the item was delivered to make sure they can see it!
They wrote that they can't send the money back until the buyer agrees to send it back.
I got even more angry.
After long conversation with the buyer he agreed to return my money.
I wrote in the appeal case and uploaded evidence that the buyer agreed to give my money back. Amazon wrote that there is nothing they can do.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
I'm considering to take this to court. What would you do?

e2free 07-29-2016 06:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Klemantina (Post 789322)
Here is what happened in one of the worst cases.
The customer opened an AZ "item not received" claim.
I uploaded tracking showing that the item was delivered to his address.
I was 100% sure I'm going to win but for some weird reason they decided to give him a refund. I got a little angry and filed an appeal.
I explained in the appeal how to track items and gave them a link to prove the item was delivered to make sure they can see it!
They wrote that they can't send the money back until the buyer agrees to send it back.
I got even more angry.
After long conversation with the buyer he agreed to return my money.
I wrote in the appeal case and uploaded evidence that the buyer agreed to give my money back. Amazon wrote that there is nothing they can do.
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
I'm considering to take this to court. What would you do?

This story cant be true

must be something which you missing

first of all if tracking number track online then amazon dont issue refund and close the case.

now you saying they refused your claim that its already refund, as even if its amazon fault they reimburse the money

but as i said it must be something else:typing:

Klemantina 07-30-2016 02:45 AM

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There are 2 reasons I can think of but it's still doesn't make sense.
The first is that the package been received like 3 days late. Which means instead of like 10 day delivery, he got it after 13 or a little more. He was claiming that he never got it so I still should have won.

The other reason is that I had a very horrible day and I was very angry when I wrote to this customer that according to his religion, they will cut his arm for stealing and more nasty stuff. It was a huge mistake to let my emotions intervene and that's possibly the reason I lost it but it's still not fair and I still think if I complain to the right department I might win this.
I also got issues with one competitor that stealing very expensive items and returning crap and I can prove it because he did the same thing on 4 of my stores and it's obvious that his a scammer but this stupid appeal department just too lazy to check!
I hate Amazon so much!

e2free 07-30-2016 06:48 AM

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Well late delivery can't be issue

Ebay amazon same they just want to keep happy buyers

They simply don't care about sellers

cyberking 07-30-2016 08:12 AM

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"I wrote to this customer that according to his religion, they will cut his arm for stealing and more nasty stuff. "

Does amazon allow to use this kind of language with customers?

Klemantina 07-30-2016 02:21 PM

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It was on the edge of acceptable. In reality I would break his arms for stealing my items.
I'm giving my customers the best service I can until I'm 100% sure his a scammer, then I use whatever is necessary to make him pay my money back.In this case it worked and he wants to give it back but the appeal department not accepting it for some stupid reason.

Klemantina 08-17-2016 03:19 PM

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This week a customer opened an AZ after approx. 350 days claiming he didn't receive the package. I no longer had the tracking so I lost 400$ after 350 days. Amazing.

KenjiMishima 08-20-2016 11:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Klemantina (Post 789549)
It was on the edge of acceptable. In reality I would break his arms for stealing my items.
I'm giving my customers the best service I can until I'm 100% sure his a scammer, then I use whatever is necessary to make him pay my money back.In this case it worked and he wants to give it back but the appeal department not accepting it for some stupid reason.

You told him they would cut his arm off? Literally what the **** is wrong with you? You sent that through amazon? If I was Amazon I would have straight up suspended you. Even if a customer is doing something shady that is not how you should be talking to people. Thats ****ing retarded.

newjerseymax 08-20-2016 03:28 PM

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I am wondering who is the scammer in this scenario?

Klemantina 08-20-2016 07:10 PM

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Calm down I just told the obvious 100% scammer that according to his religion, for example in Iran, they cut the arm of people who steal. It's not a threat, it's just mentioning a fact and it did work because for some reason he changed his mind and wanted to return the money.
Imagine you return home after a long 2 days without sleep and go through a long list of messages and after adding delivered tracking numbers to all the people who opened "not received" claim you see how Amazon gave someone a full refund after item was received. I lost my control for a moment.

salemzaid1 08-22-2016 09:38 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Klemantina (Post 794134)
Calm down I just told the obvious 100% scammer that according to his religion, for example in Iran, they cut the arm of people who steal. It's not a threat, it's just mentioning a fact and it did work because for some reason he changed his mind and wanted to return the money.
Imagine you return home after a long 2 days without sleep and go through a long list of messages and after adding delivered tracking numbers to all the people who opened "not received" claim you see how Amazon gave someone a full refund after item was received. I lost my control for a moment.

LMAOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!

What's your amazon username? I think I have to umm... file a claim.. I didn't get my stuff either man. :nono:

No man I understand your frustration. It's part of the process of reaching success. Lots of **** happens on the way. Try your best and keep going. You probably said that out of anger and regret it now.

Keep calm and do your best to stay safe when selling!

SUVE 08-23-2016 06:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Klemantina (Post 794134)
Calm down I just told the obvious 100% scammer that according to his religion, for example in Iran, they cut the arm of people who steal. It's not a threat, it's just mentioning a fact and it did work because for some reason he changed his mind and wanted to return the money.
Imagine you return home after a long 2 days without sleep and go through a long list of messages and after adding delivered tracking numbers to all the people who opened "not received" claim you see how Amazon gave someone a full refund after item was received. I lost my control for a moment.

LOL...I just had to laugh hard at this post!

This kind of off the wall zaniness on your part is just hilarious!!! :eek:


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