Letter from Competitor

[Kajunrook]

Received this today. I did take down my listings. My concern is the "foreign" manufacturer part of this. If I wait 4 weeks and repeat under generic manufacturer will it fly.

It has come to our attention that you are associating your listings with our "College Flags and Banners Co." branded listings, see ASIN(s):

B00A9W1K2Q
B005RONAXS
B005RON4PM
B005RONBDC
B00FK4R018
B005RON2NG
B00A25LOAS
B00A25LNG8
B01E4OMB5Y
B00A9VT6KU
B005RON3J4
B005RON8X0
B005RON1YG
B005ROMYSA
B005RON72W
B005RON63W
B005RON0O2
B005RON1PK
B01KEKD63I
B01KGVPG1U
B013MEK1A4

Our flags are custom flags which include our construction/imprint methods, MFR SKU, UPC and are exclusively manufactured, distributed, and retailed on Amazon and other marketplaces by us.

This is a common mistake as some of our logo designs are similar to other USA manufactured brands, however, are different brands and may have different construction details. Your remedy is to re-assign your listing to the correct branded ASIN or end the listing(s) and create a new listing with the correct brand.

On the other hand, if these sports flag(s) are being purchased from foreign factories, the item(s) you are buying are NOT officially licensed by the league, third party licensing firms, or respective teams. Licensing agreements are required to imprint these trademarked branded logos. These foreign factories are not authorized in this manner. Your remedy is to remove your listings and destroy or return these item(s) to the foreign seller.

Please remove your listings from the ASIN's with brand "College Flags and Banners Co." If not removed within 5 business days, a listing violation and illegal policy report will be reported to Amazon.com. Subsequently, a "test buy" of the item(s) in question will be performed and findings reported to Amazon.com as they have advised. In addition, screen shot dating will be performed to monitor this listing until removal.

Thanks for your cooperation in this matter. If you have any questions concerning this email, do not hesitate to contact us.

College Flags and Banners Co.
Sports Flags and Pennants Co.

[unkown5454]

no because you clearly don't have a licence and are probably importing chinese nonsense

[phaz0rz]

Sounds like they've got you dead to rights. :(

That company makes some pretty cool flags..

[rsot]

Originally Posted by unkown5454

no because you clearly don't have a licence and are probably importing chinese nonsense

Reality check with unkown

[TonyAlmeida]

Off topic question but does that seller have to pay the fee to those schools? Does that seller need a license to sell those flags?

[Gamefreak]

they need license to use to logos. Seems serious and i would remove my stuff.

[unkown5454]

Originally Posted by TonyAlmeida

Off topic question but does that seller have to pay the fee to those schools? Does that seller need a license to sell those flags?

you need a license for any logo you ste.al and attempt to make money off of..............

[MM78]

Originally Posted by unkown5454

you need a license for any logo you ste.al and attempt to make money off of..............

[Kajunrook]

This is so hilarious. All of these smart remarks from guys who are selling on Amazon under a FALSE name. The flags I sell are made in the exact same factory that the licensed flags are made using the exact same material and I am selling under my real name. So you guys think it is alright to lie about your name but not alright to sell legit non licensed flags. What hypocrites.

[idds]

Originally Posted by Kajunrook

This is so hilarious. All of these smart remarks from guys who are selling on Amazon under a FALSE name. The flags I sell are made in the exact same factory that the licensed flags are made using the exact same material and I am selling under my real name. So you guys think it is alright to lie about your name but not alright to sell legit non licensed flags. What hypocrites.

This is common.

I had some generic product that was made in a single factory that I attached a listing to, then I got a similar email.

They have 0 branding rights, they just have a brand name. There is nothing about that product that is unique.

You can fight it, but it's a waste of time. Create your own listing with your own UPC, problem solved.

[yankee]

Who cares what a name on a paypal or ebay account is? You lost me with that unrelated remark.

[jeffweico]

One of the trends I have noticed is for a seller to create a brand name and register the trademark. Sometimes they don't even register it.

Then, they import generic items from China and put a sticker on it with their "Brand Name" and claim the item is exclusively theirs. It is a bunch of nonsense.

Now there ARE some sellers who legitimately manufacture their own items, or they have a contract with a factory to do it, but that is different.

So, the question is twofold. ONE, are you SURE that the Branding is nonsense and if so then TWO is it worth your time to fight them? The unknown is Amazon, but I am guessing they are not going to investigate it too deeply. If they send papers to Amazon with a trademark and the product under that ASIN has marks that match the trademark, I think they would just side with them.

I would just list under another ASIN or create my own. It is not worth the trouble.

I can add a sticker with my "brand name" to an HDMI cable and say that nobody can use my trademark, but I cannot stop others from selling HDMI cables. And the people I have seen doing this are just the WORST sort of people, they are greedy, obnoxious, egotistical and enormously fat. We're talking DISCOVERY CHANNEL FAT! I can just imagine what they smell like...

[unkown5454]

I'm ready for the next thread where OP gets even more butthurt because they got their a$$ handed to them and banned from AZ.

1, 2, 3...GO

[KenjiMishima]

To put it simply, they are trying to scare you off the listing. This looks like proper English. So the seller will probably actually do a test buy, and if they do that you will be screwed. If it was a chinese guy, they tend to say all this stuff and never do anything.

[e2free]

Originally Posted by jeffweico

One of the trends I have noticed is for a seller to create a brand name and register the trademark. Sometimes they don't even register it.

Then, they import generic items from China and put a sticker on it with their "Brand Name" and claim the item is exclusively theirs. It is a bunch of nonsense.

Now there ARE some sellers who legitimately manufacture their own items, or they have a contract with a factory to do it, but that is different.

So, the question is twofold. ONE, are you SURE that the Branding is nonsense and if so then TWO is it worth your time to fight them? The unknown is Amazon, but I am guessing they are not going to investigate it too deeply. If they send papers to Amazon with a trademark and the product under that ASIN has marks that match the trademark, I think they would just side with them.

I would just list under another ASIN or create my own. It is not worth the trouble.

I can add a sticker with my "brand name" to an HDMI cable and say that nobody can use my trademark, but I cannot stop others from selling HDMI cables. And the people I have seen doing this are just the WORST sort of people, they are greedy, obnoxious, egotistical and enormously fat. We're talking DISCOVERY CHANNEL FAT! I can just imagine what they smell like...

Not agree
Maybe this is the case is usa But Amazon uk is totally useless
Basically any seller can register trademark and then create listing with its brand name and now if any other seller try to sell in that listing the first seller threat to remove and if still not removed then simply send report to amaozn And they do remove items and if you continue to list your account gone

According to amaozn policy brand name should be printed on item rather then sticker but who cares they still remove item

So it's very risky with Amazon

I would not recommend this

[celebrityphotos4you]

Unknown,

The OP was asking a legitimate question for input from fellow stealther/suspendees. You are right, but you don't have to be an ass about it. It's your kind of replies that make newbies not want to post a question.

[unkown5454]

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That's not a n00b. And more often than not, those who import unlicensed, trademark/copyright violating goods know exactly what they are selling. Just stick around this place a bit longer before getting too upset.

[MM78]

Originally Posted by Kajunrook

The flags I sell are made in the exact same factory that the licensed flags are made using the exact same material and I am selling under my real name.

So if you get them from the same place, you can provide invoices, and all that good stuff, right? If so, you should be allowed to sell them.....if you can provide them with the proper paperwork.

[unkown5454]

haha, but mm78, that's the whole point. OP CAN'T DO IT!

[vogeltron]

Originally Posted by Kajunrook

This is so hilarious. All of these smart remarks from guys who are selling on Amazon under a FALSE name. The flags I sell are made in the exact same factory that the licensed flags are made using the exact same material and I am selling under my real name. So you guys think it is alright to lie about your name but not alright to sell legit non licensed flags. What hypocrites.

Yes, but the problem is that they are not licensed. I remember a popular Throwback Jersey manufacturer who had this same problem about 10 years ago. Just because they come from the same factory does not mean they are licensed products. You can rationalize your behavior all you want. Why you would risk having your competitor who is clearly the brand owner buying your items and reporting you. ESPECIALLY IF YOUR HAVE YOU REAL INFO ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

Sounds like Certified Mail letter coming in the mail to me. Seen this so many times over the past 10-12 years.

[vogeltron]

Originally Posted by idds

This is common.

I had some generic product that was made in a single factory that I attached a listing to, then I got a similar email.

They have 0 branding rights, they just have a brand name. There is nothing about that product that is unique.

You can fight it, but it's a waste of time. Create your own listing with your own UPC, problem solved.

If you are using Collegiate of Professional sports logos it is not generic. Anything with those emblems must be licensed. There is a royalty for every item paid to the respective sports team/college.