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skyichigo 05-18-2010 09:27 AM

Now you need verified paypal to sell on eBay.com.au
 
Now in ebay.com.au, we can't sell with unverified paypal account anymore

As just now I try to list an item and I got this message :

"Confirming your identity
To keep eBay a safe place to buy and sell, all members need to confirm their identity. This also helps build trust between buyers and sellers.

Providing PayPal with your bank account information is the most secure way to confirm your identity.

If you're already PayPal Verified, you can also link your PayPal account to your eBay account to confirm your identity.

Note: To confirm your identity, you'll need both a valid bank account and a PayPal account.

To confirm your identity by providing your with your bank account information:
Select the option to provide your bank account information, and click the Continue button.

Confirm or fill in the required account and contact information, or sign-up for a new PayPal account.

You'll receive an email in your Messages in My eBay to let you know that PayPal received your information.

Important: Keep this message and return to it once you receive the deposit.

PayPal will make two random deposits (each less than a dollar) to your bank account. You’ll be asked to verify the amounts of those deposits to confirm your identity.

Check your bank account to see the deposit amounts, usually available in three to five days.

Return to your email message and click the Confirm your identity button.

Log into PayPal and enter both deposit amounts correctly. This lets us know that it's your bank account.

Once your identity has been confirmed, you can continue buying and selling on eBay.

To link your eBay account to your PayPal account:


click My eBay at the top of most eBay pages.

Under the Account section, click the PayPal Account link.

Click the Link My PayPal Account button. You'll be asked to log in to PayPal to finish linking your accounts."


Does anyone also get same message like this from eBay

Thanks

Imback2010 05-18-2010 03:55 PM

This happened to me....i had to make a brand new stealth and those rules didnt apply...but im from us.....



but is this a stealth account??? if it is i suggest you just forget about it and start from scratch....or just add a bank account....


have you purchased the stealth book?

pepper 05-18-2010 07:43 PM

So if you have a stealth ebay account you don't need a verified paypal account is this correct?

Imback2010 05-18-2010 09:35 PM

Yes that is correct...for the USA .but still leaves the problem of cashing out...lol


I know its like that in the usa but im not sure how the rules are in au for pp.

bphanzo 05-19-2010 07:28 AM

Hey, Sky. That's true.
Things have been like that for a while, and even worse, Paypal is more restrict at the same time.

Now Bopo (Prepaid VISA card issuer aspkin mentions in his book) shut down.
We really need some new tools to work this out.

GreenBean 05-19-2010 07:43 AM

@bp, Welcome to the forum. Have you heard of entropay. It's great for our purposes.

http://entropay.com

skyichigo 05-20-2010 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 139454)
@bp, Welcome to the forum. Have you heard of entropay. It's great for our purposes.

http://entropay.com

I checked on their site and actually entropay is not bank acc, so it is just impossible to use to verify a pp account in Australia

Correct me if I am wrong..

Cheerss

tenggo 05-29-2010 02:16 AM

why dont you just add a bank account to paypal? names dont need to match, and you will need to get your money out somehow...

AussieNutter 06-03-2010 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenggo (Post 141508)
why dont you just add a bank account to paypal? names dont need to match, and you will need to get your money out somehow...

Do This^^ Ive done it to 3 accounts with no problems

skyichigo 06-06-2010 08:26 AM

Did you guys mean that I just input any bank details even it was exist or not??

LOl..sorry try to clear the main point..

Thanks

GreenBean 06-06-2010 06:05 PM

You use a REAL bank account with real numbers. You can not use made up numbers :rolleyes:

When you first joined the forum, the recommendation was to sell with a verified paypal. It should be no surprise now that you need one. Maybe it's because of what you sell you are having problems all the time. I dunno :pop2:

Vicvelcro 06-06-2010 06:27 PM

If you simply make up a bank account, how can you confirm the deposits? How can you withdraw money if it actually gets to the bank? How do you even know if there *IS* an account with that number? If there's no account to that number, the money would go back to Paypal. And you can bet they'd wait a while before letting you know about it - THEN give you a holy hell of a time when you tried some other means of cashing out.

Think first. Then say your question out loud to yourself. Then decide if you really needed to ask *US* about it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyichigo (Post 143123)
Did you guys mean that I just input any bank details even it was exist or not??

LOl..sorry try to clear the main point..

Thanks


slapped 06-06-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skyichigo (Post 143123)
Did you guys mean that I just input any bank details even it was exist or not??

LOl..sorry try to clear the main point..

Thanks

Is there something in the Water over there?


OF COURSE You use a REAL BANK ACCOUNT!!

GreenBean 06-06-2010 07:29 PM

:pound: That should have been a beverage alert.....coffee all over the monitor

jbluntz 06-06-2010 07:57 PM

Gone are the day's of unverified paypal accounts those used to be so much fun.

slapped 06-06-2010 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GreenBean (Post 143268)
:pound: That should have been a beverage alert.....coffee all over the monitor


Sorry, but you would that some of these Posts were written in Tennessee.

By Jack Daniels Taste Testers.

FonkyChicken 06-13-2010 07:05 AM

lol @something in the water. :humble: It's those Jack Daniels taste testers!

Ok I just started selling on my sisters account as she only buys stuff and has no intention of selling anything.

to answer your question her Paypal account is unverified... I just verified this myself (that it is unverified). But this account is a few years old so I'm guessing that is something that has come in with new accounts.

So far only one sale has gone through it and another on the way.

She's not going to set up a bank account in her name just for me and she is reluctant to add her bank account details to paypal because she's a girl and a great deal of the ones I know don't trust financial matters to computers.

So now I'm wondering if it's ok to send money from her bank account to my stealth account which has aged for just over a month. My stealth account
is verified.

FonkyChicken 06-13-2010 07:16 AM

Oh sorry I should clarify that my sister used to have her account addresses at the same postal address as me (our parents place) 666 credibility St. She lives elsewhere now.

My initial ebay account which is suspended was set up for 666 Credibility St too.

My stealth account is not at that address I'm just weighing up the risks of sending it from her account which is untainted by limitations or negative feedback to my stealth account which is newish to withdraw it.

I was going to put a message like 'Heres that down payment for the web site' I'll send the rest later.

slapped 06-13-2010 09:30 AM

It seem that you have Control over your sisters Paypal account, If that is the Case I would Simply add a Bank account that you control to your sisters Paypal account, Remember Paypal does Not match the Information of the Bank account to the Paypal account ( Not in the US anyway)

As for the Address it is a Problem, Somewhere in the User Agreement it Does State that Paypal Retains the right to suspend you if you live with a suspended user or something to that effect.

FonkyChicken 06-14-2010 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapped (Post 144581)
It seem that you have Control over your sisters Paypal account, If that is the Case I would Simply add a Bank account that you control to your sisters Paypal account, Remember Paypal does Not match the Information of the Bank account to the Paypal account ( Not in the US anyway)

As for the Address it is a Problem, Somewhere in the User Agreement it Does State that Paypal Retains the right to suspend you if you live with a suspended user or something to that effect.



Yeah ok, I've had bank accounts on real accounts that didn't exactly match the paypal account name and it worked no worries.

Although if flags did go up and new limitations in palce... I'm sure they'd be checking these things. When my first paypal account was limited it said to have the limitation removed all names on ebay/paypal/bank acc MUST match.

She doesn't live at that address (from the suspended account) anymore, but it would still be on the paypal system that she did live there.

Vicvelcro 06-14-2010 03:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FonkyChicken (Post 144748)
Although if flags did go up and new limitations in palce...

Nope

Quote:

I'm sure they'd be checking these things. When my first paypal account was limited it said to have the limitation removed all names on ebay/paypal/bank acc MUST match.
They want you to believe that, but it isn't true. Call your bank. Don't tell them who you are. Just give them your account number and ask them who's name is on the account. See what they tell you (or rather, what they don't tell you).

Vicvelcro 06-14-2010 04:16 AM

Sometimes they do, this is true. Legally, they'd damned well better not.

So, anyone in doubt about their institution's dedication to protocol, law, and privacy - put it to the test.

Social engineering is a fun hobby.

GreenBean 06-14-2010 04:50 AM

Any special reason for this line of thought? :rolleyes:

Vicvelcro 06-14-2010 05:05 AM

I don't post these tips so people can MISuse the info. I post tips to help people cover their asses. People who may not realize that they need to be proactive about checking the resoluteness of their service providers.

Jbuntz, quite often you contribute well to the forum. Sometimes, not so much. This time is one of the not so good times. If you get bad ideas from my good advice, please keep your lip zipped. Don't twist my shizzy into bad deeds.

Vicvelcro 06-14-2010 05:27 AM

That was not the subject matter. The issue was if PP themselves could call your bank, tell them who they were and see if throwing their Paypal weight around would get your bank to tell your secrets.

Call your bank, give them your account number, say you are Paypal. Ask for private info about yourself. See what the bank does.

That was what this was about. Not you weaseling PP to get my info and then weaseling my bank so you could screw me. Hypothetically.

Focus, man! And don't feed the trolls.

slapped 06-14-2010 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FonkyChicken (Post 144748)
......

When my first paypal account was limited it said to have the limitation removed all names on ebay/paypal/bank acc MUST match.......

Believe me use one of the Banks like Chase Bank the name and address on the Bank account DOES NOT have to match your Paypal account name and address

FonkyChicken 06-15-2010 02:46 AM

All good contributions guys.... I mentioned a couple of days ago to a VIP that sometimes on the forum your head can spin by all of the different answers and different ways of saying the same thing.

My reason for bringing up the bank account thing was because when my paypal account was limited and I was having trouble lifting it by talking to the PP phone monkeys.

I figured it would be wise to check that all of my Bay/ PP and Bank info matched.

To my surprise :shocked: when I went in to check my paypal address details there was a note next to it that said 'Address does not match bank acc'

Rather then change the paypal address to my real address I changed my bank accounts default address to match my paypal one.

they lifted my limitation after some grovelling and upgrading to a premiere account.

On another note: I also got ebay to lift my account limitation with some more grovelling being polite and acting stoopid!! hehehe

It's quite a funny story because they'd already admitted to me that one of my DVD products hadn't officially even been released yet, which I was totally unaware of ;) . So that's a tip-off for me when stocking up the inventory.
Here's there admittance:

"For example, we are concerned that you are selling Guzzlers season 4, when it is not slated to be released until August 17, 2010 (inthe U.S.). This causes us to question whether your items are authentic or not.

If you would like to sell items on eBay full time Fonkychicken, which can be a great business, you may want to consider items that do not have questionable authenticity. This is to protect you as a seller from possible action from film rights owners, ourselves from action, as well as buyers in the eBay community."



After they'd admitted it I sent another letter back stating that my supplier is reputable (bs) although this will be a point of contention with them. And that I'm not even too concerned about the DVD's because I'm also selling hard to find guitars.

Here's the message I got today: :dance:

"Dear Fonkychicken
Thank you for writing to eBay regarding your selling limit. Your account has been reviewed, and I've taken your email into consideration.

I've adjusted your selling limits to allow additional activity to take place. Please know that if DVD's are listed, your account may be restricted or suspended. Your new limits will allow you to list a limited amount of guitars.

If you encounter a limit, you'll need to wait a few days before trying to list more. As you continue to gain positive feedback, we will be pleased to increase your limits and allow more sales at a time. I hope this helps. I am pleased to be able to assist you with this matter and wish you well with your future transactions on eBay.

We sincerely value you as a member of our trading community and look forward to a continued successful relationship with you. Thank you for your cooperation in this matter."



I am going to lay low on this account for a while but does anyone here think they'd align the cannons if I started selling DVD's again ? I seriously don't think whoever wrote that message will be checking back on me like a concerned parents in a few weeks time.

FonkyChicken 06-15-2010 02:57 AM

To clarify on the bank issue. ( I get off subject too easily) I totally agree Vic we sign privacy statements when setting up accounts and the only way a bank will give out personal information is if Law Enforcement becomes involved. PayPal are a law unto themselves but not as far as the banks are concerned.

I love the social engineering idea Vic and testing the banks anyway.. that'd be hilarious fun. Yes I'm from Paypal and my name is Raja Devapratumanudumrong.

slapped 06-15-2010 08:05 AM

FONKYCHICKEN....I Cannot believe that letter you got from ebay, they are so Sweet over there, I wish they were like that here,

As for the DVD's, Forget about them, the reason is that they have "Blocked" your account from listing them, so if you list them if you are "lucky" the System will NOT allow you to list them at all, if you are not Lucky, it will trigger an Automatic suspension and if you Get to deal with a "Normal" U.S. Style Ebay employee as opposed to the one who wrote you that letter you are DONE!!

What I would do is wait some time and E-Mail THE SAME PERSON who sent you that Nice E-Mail and tell them that you have a New Supplier of Verified Legit DVD's. I would ONLY Do that if I just HAD to sell DVD's, I Personaly would much prefer to Move on.

FonkyChicken 06-16-2010 01:23 AM

hehehe..... They are still US employee's mate. Anytime I try to call Paypal or Ebay in Australia it is re-directed to call centres in the US.

Thanks for the info slapped I didn't think the databasses had that functionality to BLOCK certain things and allow others. I hadn't heard of it happening to anyone else on the forums so I figured they were just trying to make me think that.

It was signed Adler which is the generic name you get on all trust and safety e-mails.
I'm pretty sure if I reply to the e-mail I won't get the same person.

I was very polite to them and mentioned that I'd left my job in administration to pursue a full time position selling on ebay (sucking up).

FonkyChicken 06-16-2010 01:27 AM

Oh I must mention that when they mentioned the release that hadn't been released yet.
I told them I was dumbfounded and swore that I had a reputable australian dealer.

I mentioned to them that It is a point of contention and I will have a word to my supplier and resolve this issue as they might not be aware that the DVD in question hasn't been released yet either because everything I've bought from them has been legit, without fault and I haven't had any complaints.

tenggo 06-25-2010 10:19 PM

Hey fonkeychicken, if that is the letter you got from ebay, i hope the ebay account name has been replaced by you...as wouldnt want an ebay troll to see that letter... maybe do an edit on that hey?

FonkyChicken 06-27-2010 12:32 AM

Definately replaced mate.... I was thinking the same thing when I posted it ;)


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