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Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1168118)

the problem here is that this virus will be returning every year , there is no point to get more and more shots year after year

Originally Posted by slokor (Post 1168222)

First off to all those pointing out a teeny tiny minority of cases the vaccine had side effects - it is the same with ANY medical procedure. You could can go in for a simple procedure with anaesthetic and never wake up. It happens and its a part of life and theres nothing anyone can do about it. So reading into it and making it into a 'Thanos' like conspiracy to wipe out half the population is simply absurd. I dont know how people can even think that way.
I dont think the vaccine should be mandated anywhere. As so many said - your body your choice and all that jabber and Im a big believer in one's personal rights and freedoms.
BUT - as I said countless times before - these are extraordinary circumstances we as a glocal society have never faced before. Ones right to not get vaccinated does NOT come at the expense of rights of others who DID get vaccinated to feel safe and remain healthy. Dont want the shot? dont get it. But dont whine and complain about the fact that vaccine passports will become the norm and there will be a host of activities you as an unvaccinated person will NOT be able to participate in - starting with travelling to other countries all the way to simple indoor activities like dining out. And to anyone who yet again will ask 'but the vaccine is supposed to protect you isnt it? so whats the problem?' - the research shows now the Delta variant is a lot more contagious and 'breakthrough' infections among vaccinated are possible although at a much lower likelihood than the unvaccinated. The protection against infection is not perfect but it certainly increases your chances should you contract it. The numbers are pretty clear on this so maybe all those doing their research into the negative should do some research into the positive and the number of hospitalizations in their area - and how many of those hospitalized are vaccinated vs hospitalized without having received the vaccine. In my area the ratio is about 1 vaccinated hospitalized to every 10-12 unvaccinated. Call it coincidence if you must or poor reporting by the authorities (i.e. a lie) but at THAT ratio ill go with the vaccine every time.
Im not arguing with anyone here. To each their own. I myself feel much safer now that Im vaccinated and now that a vaccine passport system is being implemented in my area. Knowing that when I go to a movie or a restaurant or a ball game EVERYBODY around me will also be vaccinated with a much lower chance of having contracted this virus will make my life much more stress free.

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1168229)

Guess you've never heard of the flu lol

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1168231)

Indeed, but we only vaccinate the old and vulnerable against flu.

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1168230)

You are flat out ignorant. Almost every single thing you post about anything is down right ignorant. Do you ever post anything that isn't liberal MEDIA drivel? It is like your entire goal in life is to insult people and remain highly miss informed. It is as if you actually have done ZERO research of any kind. You clearly have never even read on the Pfizer website how the vaccine is suppose to work with the comments you made above. They don't claim to stop the spread, to reduce the chance if getting covid or anything you are suggesting above. Hell, right now they are saying their jab isn't even effective at reducing extreme symptoms and they already made FIVE new boosters to hopefully reduce chances of extreme symptoms.

Please please please just shut your mouth. You talk about dangerous posts but you clearly are almost always dangerous, ignorant and miss informed at best on almost every single post you make. Just stop the stupidity and quite honestly, lame ass insults. You are WORSE than agent!!!

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1168231)

Indeed, but we only vaccinate the old and vulnerable against flu.

This virus has got some folk whipped up into such a frenzy that they want everyone jabbing, even our young children.

In the UK the vaccine was initially sold as a means to 'protect the NHS', now that has been achieved they are forever looking for reasons to jab for jabbings sake.

Lets not forget, as some in society have become almost rabid in their futile attempts to eradicate covid, thousands are going untreated for other illnesses costing many many more lives. In the UK there are still doctors who are refusing face to face consultations, it's sheer madness.

If I proposed similar state control over folks poor eating habits to save the medical services billions of pounds and save tens of thousands of lives I'd be called a nazi. Go figure?

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1168051)

Completely True and You sir are completely deranged!

Originally Posted by yankee (Post 1168230)

You are flat out ignorant. Almost every single thing you post about anything is down right ignorant. Do you ever post anything that isn't liberal MEDIA drivel? It is like your entire goal in life is to insult people and remain highly miss informed. It is as if you actually have done ZERO research of any kind. You clearly have never even read on the Pfizer website how the vaccine is suppose to work with the comments you made above. They don't claim to stop the spread, to reduce the chance if getting covid or anything you are suggesting above. Hell, right now they are saying their jab isn't even effective at reducing extreme symptoms and they already made FIVE new boosters to hopefully reduce chances of extreme symptoms.

Please please please just shut your mouth. You talk about dangerous posts but you clearly are almost always dangerous, ignorant and miss informed at best on almost every single post you make. Just stop the stupidity and quite honestly, lame ass insults. You are WORSE than agent!!!

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1168239)

Yes. Glad we got there in the end. :lol:


EVERYBODY doesn't get invited for the flu shot in the UK. And yes, I do demand medical assistance from working doctors when required, it's part of the promise made to me when compulsory deductions are taken from my income to pay for the NHS.

If you even decide to stop making dodgy ebay accounts to make sure you can get by and leave your bedsit you might learn how the world operates outside of your seedy little world.

Reading your rabid rants I almost feel sorry for you that life has broken you to the point of spending your whole life in a virtual $hithole, screaming and bawling at anonymous online ID's and relying on ill-gotten gains to survive. :rip:

Originally Posted by phaz0rz (Post 1168209)

Only compliant sheep who turn on the news every morning for instructions on how to live their lives are getting this stupid injection. None of this was necessary and this experiment is harming/killing people every week. It's really sad that the media has so much influence that they can talk the majority of people into taking an injection they don't need and that doesn't really do what it says it's supposed to do. All for a meme virus. An elderly man who goes to church with my wife's family died the day after his first shot. His family walked in to see him slumped over dead in a chair.

https://vaxpain.us/

^^that site takes forever to load stats but it's worth a look. At first there were only old people being murdered by the shot but now that they're pushing it on people as young as 12, many new young deaths are being reported each week. :(


https://i.postimg.cc/rmpgnw1S/Untitled-1.png


I can't relate to anyone who thinks this is a risk worth taking. :nono:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1168559)

the survival rate with COVID is somewhere around 99% and even with the remaining 1% it is not clear whether it is really 1% , maybe it is 0.50% or 0.20%

there is a lot of propaganda claiming all the time that anybody who died having COVID in fact died from COVID

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1168560)

An interesting thing right now is 98% of the hospitalized COVID patients haven't had the vaccine. Looks like it works pretty good at keeping you from getting deathly ill.

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1168561)

Israel is now having one of the world's worst COVID-19 surges about five months after vaccinating a majority of its population.

Originally Posted by ebaystealth1974 (Post 1168562)

Is that hospitalized people, or just covid cases? Probably just cases...

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1168580)

no , this virus won't go away but will be returning every year indefinitely , vaccines won't help here but only a combination of natural immunity and natural selection

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1168586)

no , there is no long term protection against flu and there are no vaccines that work long term either. that is why the flu comes back every year and lots of people die , this has been like this for ages

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 1168583)

No, because your body knows how to fight diseases if it got infected once. You get flue once, and then protected for life. But antibodies from vaccines seem to have temporarily effect... as virus is heavily mutating due extreme spread.

Originally Posted by muzzie (Post 1168587)

People do not really die in developed countries. Mostly, flu death toll is taken in third world countries, where there is no seasonal flu and no any normal immunity, and very poor health system.

Originally Posted by Hank (Post 1168590)

Wow, just wow. Where on earth do you get your info. :nono:

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1168586)

no , there is no long term protection against flu and there are no vaccines that work long term either. that is why the flu comes back every year and lots of people die , this has been like this for ages

Originally Posted by hercules2 (Post 1168729)

80% of covid deaths are fat people and/or with another sickness like diabetes, respiratory problems etc. The rest are old or unlucky.

Originally Posted by hercules2 (Post 1168729)

80% of covid deaths are fat people and/or with another sickness like diabetes, respiratory problems etc. The rest are old or unlucky.
If you notice other countries that have way less medical care have a low covid death problem. They don't have a vaccination system as ours (USA). The rest of the World's people are just skinny.

Originally Posted by murdered_by_ebay (Post 1169992)

using untested vaccines will certainly lead to casualties , there is nothing special about that. long term effects are unpredictable either

and of course covid will not disappear anywhere no matter how much they try , it will just be coming back every year and people will be taking vaccines every year

it is like a russian roulette , if this year's vaccine edition does not damage you maybe the next one will?